Gainswave and P-Shot Journey

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P-shot and Shockwaves are SCAMS!!!!

What is your definition of shockwave? All the discussion in this thread is in reference to Gaineswave, which is a cheap radial device. Or are you referring to focused shockwave (of which the only approved device in the USA is the Storz Duolith SD-1?

I have never seen one credible report of the radial devices helping. However, I have found several scientific RCT studies of the focused devices (including other manufacturers internationally) that offer promise - not glowing, but promising. I may be wrong, but the studies I've looked at were positive-leaning about their potential. I don't recall a single conclusion that they were worthless.

I feel like I'm on a crusade to differentiate between the two technologies. But my only interest is as an ED sufferor looking for a solution. Before I am characterized as a desperate dupe, let me say that I'm doing quite well on Sildenafil and I could live with that as my solution. But if focused shockwave can add a little boost then I am interested. Interested enough to do some investigation which first and foremost tells me radial wave is a sham and that frequently true focused shockwave is mixed in without distinction. And that distorts the analysis.

I totally agree with you. Shockwave in the USA is in the hands of amateurs who are using wrong equipment. Storz and some other manufacturets are the only companies that make focused equipment. Some idiots order machines from China and complain when they did not get rid of ED.
The best and most realistic approach to shockwave that I know has one company in Denmark. Check my posts.

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Hi Mustang24, I would appreciate any update on your results from the duel therapys.

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P-shot and Shockwaves are SCAMS!!!!

What is your definition of shockwave? All the discussion in this thread is in reference to Gaineswave, which is a cheap radial device. Or are you referring to focused shockwave (of which the only approved device in the USA is the Storz Duolith SD-1?

I have never seen one credible report of the radial devices helping. However, I have found several scientific RCT studies of the focused devices (including other manufacturers internationally) that offer promise - not glowing, but promising. I may be wrong, but the studies I've looked at were positive-leaning about their potential. I don't recall a single conclusion that they were worthless.

I feel like I'm on a crusade to differentiate between the two technologies. But my only interest is as an ED sufferor looking for a solution. Before I am characterized as a desperate dupe, let me say that I'm doing quite well on Sildenafil and I could live with that as my solution. But if focused shockwave can add a little boost then I am interested. Interested enough to do some investigation which first and foremost tells me radial wave is a sham and that frequently true focused shockwave is mixed in without distinction. And that distorts the analysis.

I totally agree with you. Shockwave in the USA is in the hands of amateurs who are using wrong equipment. Storz and some other manufacturets are the only companies that make focused equipment. Some idiots order machines from China and complain when they did not get rid of ED.
The best and most realistic approach to shockwave that I know has one company in Denmark. Check my posts.

I've done a lot of sessions with focused shockwave (storz) and it didn't do anything at all for me. Other people's results might vary, but personally i have never met anyone who had success with this, other than pointing to the published studies where it supposedly works for ED but not in real life. Most people that it works on apparently is people who have psycological ED or maybe mild ED at most.

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P-shot and Shockwaves are SCAMS!!!!

What is your definition of shockwave? All the discussion in this thread is in reference to Gaineswave, which is a cheap radial device. Or are you referring to focused shockwave (of which the only approved device in the USA is the Storz Duolith SD-1?

I have never seen one credible report of the radial devices helping. However, I have found several scientific RCT studies of the focused devices (including other manufacturers internationally) that offer promise - not glowing, but promising. I may be wrong, but the studies I've looked at were positive-leaning about their potential. I don't recall a single conclusion that they were worthless.

I feel like I'm on a crusade to differentiate between the two technologies. But my only interest is as an ED sufferor looking for a solution. Before I am characterized as a desperate dupe, let me say that I'm doing quite well on Sildenafil and I could live with that as my solution. But if focused shockwave can add a little boost then I am interested. Interested enough to do some investigation which first and foremost tells me radial wave is a sham and that frequently true focused shockwave is mixed in without distinction. And that distorts the analysis.

I totally agree with you. Shockwave in the USA is in the hands of amateurs who are using wrong equipment. Storz and some other manufacturets are the only companies that make focused equipment. Some idiots order machines from China and complain when they did not get rid of ED.
The best and most realistic approach to shockwave that I know has one company in Denmark. Check my posts.

I tried shockwave therapy with Storz machines. I did 12 sessions. It did nothing for me. I also tried the p-shot. No effect on me either.