European Society of Radiology:
Radiologic Approach to Erectile Dysfunction. Main causes, diagnosis and therapeutic options in interventional radiology.
Found this last study that is 2019, so I have led informing is carried out in Madrid-Spain (Europe) where they have started to investigate the issue of venous leakage.
- The good news is that it is minimally invasive, just a small incision.
- They use Caverno-Computed Tomography, which I suppose is much more accurate.
- For now the study sheds green light.
-I think it's only for certain selected patients.
Here I leave the news and the link for you to read:
https://posterng.netkey.at/esr/viewing/ ... searchkey=
what do you think guys about it? it can be green light?
New venous leakage research 2019
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New venous leakage research 2019
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So my take away is that they are using coils and glue to block the veins, resulting in erections when you have sufficient arterial inflow.
They can achieve a greater degree of clarity through their imaging technique, and employ more targeted embolization permitting more discrete and incremental embolization than that which could be achieve via crude surgical stripping.
The problem that I have seen with this technique (going purely from anecdotal patient experience reported online) is that the improvements don't last long.
Am I right in that they did not report results beyond 24 months? I didn't see any statistical analysis (or even descriptive statistics) of success over the long term.
That article is however the best account of what is actually going on that I have read. I learned a lot. So thank you for posting.
They can achieve a greater degree of clarity through their imaging technique, and employ more targeted embolization permitting more discrete and incremental embolization than that which could be achieve via crude surgical stripping.
The problem that I have seen with this technique (going purely from anecdotal patient experience reported online) is that the improvements don't last long.
Am I right in that they did not report results beyond 24 months? I didn't see any statistical analysis (or even descriptive statistics) of success over the long term.
That article is however the best account of what is actually going on that I have read. I learned a lot. So thank you for posting.
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The follow-up study is carried out from 6 months to 24 months, this being positive.
- How can we know if those people after 24 months still have good erections? The only way I can think of is contacting the university hospital ....
- If the publication is from 2019 maybe these people are still in follow-up.
- Could it be a first step?
-I also read that boston medical group in 2017 they present it at a conference and they will start using it
so, we have:
1- ligatures that are somewhat obsolete.
2- Vein Stretching
3- sclerotherapy.
4- Interventional radiology
Should I change the name of the title to interventional radiology? and in it we publish the knowledge that we have each
- How can we know if those people after 24 months still have good erections? The only way I can think of is contacting the university hospital ....
- If the publication is from 2019 maybe these people are still in follow-up.
- Could it be a first step?
-I also read that boston medical group in 2017 they present it at a conference and they will start using it
so, we have:
1- ligatures that are somewhat obsolete.
2- Vein Stretching
3- sclerotherapy.
4- Interventional radiology
Should I change the name of the title to interventional radiology? and in it we publish the knowledge that we have each
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possible ED, behind doctors for 3 years, without any response or diagnosis
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if it works 2 years depending on the follow-up, then could you submit to it again?
and be another 2 years and so on, what do you think LeRoastBeef ?
and be another 2 years and so on, what do you think LeRoastBeef ?
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Embolizations give symptomatic relief , i have had msny ligations and embolizations but the leak just diverts due to carvernosal scar tissue and the penis not expanding , I think a combination of linear shock wave treatment to break down scar tissue in carvernosal chamber and promote new smooth muscle which will be able to create more venous resistance and reducing venous leak and embolizations/ligations to compliment care , we also need genetic testing , I have painful hemeroids perinium veins and penile venous leak and pelvic venous congestion and after eating gluetan my veins hurt more I wonder if celiac disease can contribute to vein damage
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Well my viens sure improved in the last 3 months. Taking daflon
edex and tri mix 45/1/27 26 units
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Any updates on the research above? anyone managed to get in touch with the university to get more information?
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This is not „new research“, this is old stuff. Vein stripping, embolisation, etc has been proven to be ineffective and dangerous by serious science. Some docs try to make money with it. If it would work, anyone would do it. But it doesn’t. We have in this forum almost 100 percent fail rate of vein surgeries, sadly some suicides. Do your research.
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I know that it has been around for a long time, however maybe the success rate have increased due to the ability to pinpoint which veins are affected.
Yeah I've read all the stories posted before here on FT and as you said success rate seems to be close to zero, even in the short term! but then you read research papers and a lot of them would report much higher success rates. Maybe studies fluff up their numbers, maybe it is down to choosing the right candidates, or maybe people with successful stories just don't come back to post online... I don't know.
What I do know is that I want to find a solution for this as implant is not an option for me, so I keep checking in the hopes of finding something one day...
Yeah I've read all the stories posted before here on FT and as you said success rate seems to be close to zero, even in the short term! but then you read research papers and a lot of them would report much higher success rates. Maybe studies fluff up their numbers, maybe it is down to choosing the right candidates, or maybe people with successful stories just don't come back to post online... I don't know.
What I do know is that I want to find a solution for this as implant is not an option for me, so I keep checking in the hopes of finding something one day...
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yr old patient who is unresponsive to pdei inhibitors .
My hormonal levels are normal and I am not diabetic. I am also unresponsive to pdei inhibitors such as viagra . Please reply thanks and alprostadil does not work for me.Morning erections are absent.
I am looking for stem cell transplantion.Most probably suffering from venoocclusive dysfunction . In this dysfunction the veins of the penis fail to shut down and thus blood fails to get trapped in the penis.
plz reply\
1 which type of stem cells are most effective in venoocclusive dysfunction
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3.DO U HAVE ANY INSTITUTE THAT PROVIDES AMNIOTIC FLUID TRANSPLANT FOR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION
4. WHAT Is THE COST OF AMNIOTIC FLUID STEM TRANSPLANT ALLOGENIC , THAT IS FOR ONE INNJECTION.
.UR VIEW ON THIS.
THANKS
THERE IS AN INSTITUTE IN FLORIDA THAT PROVIDES AMNIOTIC FLUID TRANSPLANT For ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. IF U KNOW ABOUT IT
yr old patient who is unresponsive to pdei inhibitors .
My hormonal levels are normal and I am not diabetic. I am also unresponsive to pdei inhibitors such as viagra . Please reply thanks and alprostadil does not work for me.Morning erections are absent.
I am looking for stem cell transplantion.Most probably suffering from venoocclusive dysfunction . In this dysfunction the veins of the penis fail to shut down and thus blood fails to get trapped in the penis.
plz reply\
1 which type of stem cells are most effective in venoocclusive dysfunction
.\
3.DO U HAVE ANY INSTITUTE THAT PROVIDES AMNIOTIC FLUID TRANSPLANT FOR ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION
4. WHAT Is THE COST OF AMNIOTIC FLUID STEM TRANSPLANT ALLOGENIC , THAT IS FOR ONE INNJECTION.
.UR VIEW ON THIS.
THANKS
THERE IS AN INSTITUTE IN FLORIDA THAT PROVIDES AMNIOTIC FLUID TRANSPLANT For ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION. IF U KNOW ABOUT IT
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