What is the venous leak and which cause it??

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Ali34319
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What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Ali34319 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:25 am

Guys, i got a venous leak for only 6 months ago as a result of hitting and trying to hide my erect penis.....
Now i need to know which one cause venous leak veins defects or erectile tissue defect... And what if as a result of erectile tissue defect can it heal itself with time...?
Note i dont have any tough scar on my penis i feel it so elastic.
Anyone knows what is the wrong with me plz..??

Ali34319
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Ali34319 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:26 am

Iam 29 years old not married yet :(

guysmall
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby guysmall » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:18 pm

Venous leakage occurs when the veins that prevent blood from leaving the penis when it is erect do not work and immediately after the erection occurs, the veins do not contract and the blood leaves the penis before orgasm occurs, the The causes are varied from hypogonadism, lack of testosterone, rupture of the tunica albugenea, the only possible treatments are to take Viagra until it does not work, then go through injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis after a time of use and for Lastly, the penile implant, there is no surgery to date that will solve the problem, my recommendation is to accept the fact of the leak, try pills and then go to the implant.

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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby malibog » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:44 pm

guysmall wrote:Venous leakage occurs when the veins that prevent blood from leaving the penis when it is erect do not work and immediately after the erection occurs, the veins do not contract and the blood leaves the penis before orgasm occurs, the The causes are varied from hypogonadism, lack of testosterone, rupture of the tunica albugenea, the only possible treatments are to take Viagra until it does not work, then go through injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis after a time of use and for Lastly, the penile implant, there is no surgery to date that will solve the problem, my recommendation is to accept the fact of the leak, try pills and then go to the implant.


Is it universal that "injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis"? Can you link any studies on this? Over what period of time? # of injections?

Some here claim years of excellent results with injections. You seem to be saying that injections are the road to perdition. Not saying you are wrong, but some backup for what you say would be helpful. Are you a urologist with relevant training and experience? Or can you cite some authoritative sources? I have recently embarked on the injection route, to good effect. But your post conveys the strong message that’s I am living in a fool's paradise. So, please provide more support for your assertions. You might save some of us some grief. Thank you.

Ali34319
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Ali34319 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:25 am

guysmall wrote:Venous leakage occurs when the veins that prevent blood from leaving the penis when it is erect do not work and immediately after the erection occurs, the veins do not contract and the blood leaves the penis before orgasm occurs, the The causes are varied from hypogonadism, lack of testosterone, rupture of the tunica albugenea, the only possible treatments are to take Viagra until it does not work, then go through injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis after a time of use and for Lastly, the penile implant, there is no surgery to date that will solve the problem, my recommendation is to accept the fact of the leak, try pills and then go to the implant.

How can i know if it is from veins defect or tunicia albugenea rupture???
Is the penis ring resolve and prevent this leak??
Can i do intercourse well. I have a mild degree but i feel blood escape :cry:

guysmall
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby guysmall » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:48 pm

I'm sorry I don't have sources, maybe the opinion on Youtube of a couple of urologists and reading from some members of the forum, on the other hand, slight venous leaks may respond well to viagra, a cock ring on the penis can help, but they are only treatments that help but not cure the disease venous leak eventually worsen and pills will not work, injections would be the next step but I have no idea generation scars I think it depends on each person, in any case the only solution final is the implant.

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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Simbarn » Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:13 pm

guysmall wrote:Venous leakage occurs when the veins that prevent blood from leaving the penis when it is erect do not work and immediately after the erection occurs, the veins do not contract and the blood leaves the penis before orgasm occurs, the The causes are varied from hypogonadism, lack of testosterone, rupture of the tunica albugenea, the only possible treatments are to take Viagra until it does not work, then go through injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis after a time of use and for Lastly, the penile implant, there is no surgery to date that will solve the problem, my recommendation is to accept the fact of the leak, try pills and then go to the implant.


The term venous leak is synonymous with the term CVOD; corporal veno-occlusive dysfunction. Which means as I have mentioned here before, is anything that causes the veno-occlusive mechanism in the penis to fail. It is not just to do with the veins in the penis.
The veins in the penis are varied and some perform different functions.
I will copy something I posted earlier: “Even strong psychogenic factors can cause the venous occlusion mechanism to fail, simply because the smooth muscle in the erectile tissues is unable to relax due to the inhibitory forces working excessively. This prevents sufficient blood to flow into the sinusoidal spaces which will not create enough internal pressure to compress the veins under the tunica. The term venous leak is used very loosely by urologists to explain why you have ED. IMO it’s just like saying you have ED!”
Smooth muscle loss and collagen deposition in the erectile tissues and or arteries, is far more likely to cause CVOD that an issue with the veins in the penis.

It is not proven that injections will cause fibrosis and cause CVOD. It is more likely that the degenerative condition that has initially caused CVOD to occur in the first place continues. Penile injections then become less effective at helping to directly boost smooth muscle relaxation in those areas of the penis. The result is pressure is not maintained in the erectile bodies and blood escapes past the tunica.
If injections were used too frequently in the same area, it has been suggested that perhaps scar tissue could form.
Age 57, ED issues for 15-20 years. Testosterone replacement with Enanthate and Ovidrel. Currently using generic Tadalafil 2.5mgs and Resveratrol daily.

Ali34319
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Ali34319 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:01 pm

Simbarn wrote:
guysmall wrote:Venous leakage occurs when the veins that prevent blood from leaving the penis when it is erect do not work and immediately after the erection occurs, the veins do not contract and the blood leaves the penis before orgasm occurs, the The causes are varied from hypogonadism, lack of testosterone, rupture of the tunica albugenea, the only possible treatments are to take Viagra until it does not work, then go through injections that generate scars and produce fibrosis after a time of use and for Lastly, the penile implant, there is no surgery to date that will solve the problem, my recommendation is to accept the fact of the leak, try pills and then go to the implant.


The term venous leak is synonymous with the term CVOD; corporal veno-occlusive dysfunction. Which means as I have mentioned here before, is anything that causes the veno-occlusive mechanism in the penis to fail. It is not just to do with the veins in the penis.
The veins in the penis are varied and some perform different functions.
I will copy something I posted earlier: “Even strong psychogenic factors can cause the venous occlusion mechanism to fail, simply because the smooth muscle in the erectile tissues is unable to relax due to the inhibitory forces working excessively. This prevents sufficient blood to flow into the sinusoidal spaces which will not create enough internal pressure to compress the veins under the tunica. The term venous leak is used very loosely by urologists to explain why you have ED. IMO it’s just like saying you have ED!”
Smooth muscle loss and collagen deposition in the erectile tissues and or arteries, is far more likely to cause CVOD that an issue with the veins in the penis.

It is not proven that injections will cause fibrosis and cause CVOD. It is more likely that the degenerative condition that has initially caused CVOD to occur in the first place continues. Penile injections then become less effective at helping to directly boost smooth muscle relaxation in those areas of the penis. The result is pressure is not maintained in the erectile bodies and blood escapes past the tunica.
If injections were used too frequently in the same area, it has been suggested that perhaps scar tissue could form.

So its result of defect in smooth muscles is there any way to restore it. I havnt diabetes and it maybe due to masturbation or trying to hide my erection

Simbarn
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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby Simbarn » Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:57 pm

Ali34319 wrote:So its result of defect in smooth muscles is there any way to restore it. I havnt diabetes and it maybe due to masturbation or trying to hide my erection


No, it is not just caused by a defect in the smooth muscle themselves. It can be caused by many things as I described above. The smooth muscles can be involved if they do not relax sufficiently or they have deteriorated in quantity or quality. It could also be caused by a breakdown in the tunica as well.
If one of the pathways responsible for either relaxation such as the NO-CGMP or the CAMP or one of the constriction pathways such as the NA or RHOA, are dysfunctional, this could also cause CVOD.
The problem we have here is that science is still learning much about the above pathways and how they can cause erectile function issues. Therefore, doctors cannot see what is actually happening much of the time with regard to what is actually causing a venous leak (CVOD) to occur.
It would be impossible for any of us on this forum to answer your original question owing to the complexity of the above.

You need to find yourself a very good sexual health doctor who may be able to evaluate your specific set of symptoms and perform some relevant tests.
Age 57, ED issues for 15-20 years. Testosterone replacement with Enanthate and Ovidrel. Currently using generic Tadalafil 2.5mgs and Resveratrol daily.

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Re: What is the venous leak and which cause it??

Postby wolfpacker » Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:48 pm

At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what causes the veinous leak. The current standard of care for ED is to treat the symptoms with treatments like pills, injections and the implant. There's no need to look deep into the root cause because with today's medical technology the treatment is the same.
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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