Dr. Ralf Herwig claims that he cures Venous Leak

[Echegollen]

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I was wondering if you could all help me in clarifying if we are all suffering the same symptoms when we are diagnosed as having VL. VL by definition is the veins letting more blood out than the arteries are pumping in, but that doesn't say how it effects each person? For me personally, I can get an erection with solid corpus cavernosa, but it takes way longer to get hard (a few minutes), goes down way quicker (10-20 seconds without stimulation) and is very position dependant, I find sitting down works best for me and laying on my back is the worst. How it effects me is that my glans is the problem, the glans does not retain blood at all. I can kegel it in, and on viagra the arteries are basically in a constant in flow position, but it just drains straight away again. I suppose this is the same with the CS, but it's been so long since I had a proper erection I can't remember how enlarged the CS should be.

Is this what we all have? Soft glans etc, or do some of you have problems with the corpora as well? As you can see, if I have a problem with the CS/Glans then an implant wouldn't be suitable for me as it would be replacing the bits that actually work.

My symptoms are similar. My erections don't last more than 10-20 seconds without stimulation. However, I don't have a soft glans...

[gollam121]

Hi All,
It’s been sometime since I have written properly on this forum about life after the Scelrothreapy procedure on the 16th September this year. I have decided to start a new thread away from the young members threads particularly the one concerning professor Herwig who claims to cure a VL and who assisted the surgeon who conducted my procedure in Vienna Austria. I want to both educate men who suffer from VL like I do to not to rush into what I would call now experimental procedures for a condition that is little researched nor cared about too much within medical circles. Additional too I will now need an implant if I am to have a sex life with my wife moving forward. Therefore I will also be spending more time on those threads as this is the journey I will now have to take so will need to channel into the bionic brothers experiences to help me better understand what I need to do.

To be as honest life hasn’t been good at all and I would say the regret in having this procedure done is the worst thing to live with. Before the procedure I would say I was very much like another FK member Merrix in terms of age, married and dealing with a continued venous leak that required 100mg Viagra or 20mg Cialis to be able to have an erection sufficient enough for reasonable intercourse I’d say 7 times out of 10. If I could get this back now I would be delighted but that isn’t going to happen so I can’t even go there.

The clinic have been very professional to be fair and I have spoken with their MD on a number of occasions and he has been very supportive and continues to support even though at times I have kicked out angrily because of my situation. To clarify my situation without confusing FK members even more than I know I have with rambling, angry, frustrated posts after things went wrong. I wanted to re-set my story now my head is a lot clearer of the demons that plagued me in those early weeks post my truma.

To try and rationally put it into some helpful and structured comments, I choose to have the procedure after months of deliberation. The procedure itself was of no great concern because I thought I it was worth spending the money to try and improve my situation and because I was assured by the doctor that if it didn’t work then I was confidently told it wouldn’t make things any worse than it was; so in balance worth a good go in my book. During my deliberation period my wife was on the fence and although happy with what we had between us also trusted I had done my research and if it could make me happier then she would support my decision.

The trip to Vienna and the opp was a breeze and I returned home with a slightly fuller and bandaged flaccid penis. I felt some slight continuing fluffing up over the following days but was more bothered about it healing and getting back to normal. By the first Saturday post operation things went a bit what I would call flat line down below and I started to get a little worried, however by Saturday night my wife said to me, no sex because your healing but let’s see if it works. After a bit of light touching I obtained the biggest erection I’ve ever had in my life and this lasted 30 minutes with limited stimulation. The following night the same happened again but this time I stood to look in the mirror and it went down very quickly indeed. I wasn’t at the time overly concerned about this, however by the Wednesday which was one week post procedure I obtained and erection on my own and went to look at things in the mirror; this is when it all went wobbly, out of shape and then in bulged at the base! I know this expiation sounds weird and yes it was traumatic but this is what I remember and that’s when my life changed beyond all recognition.

After this event I continued on the 5mg Cialis but no erections occurred. After a week of this I became very depressed and contacted the clinic like a man processed. All very irrational and very silly on part but I was scared. My wife and I went to Bruges for her birthday on the 1st October (2 weeks post Scero); it was a disaster and nearly finished us. After coming back I went to a follow up appointment at the clinic, by this point I had not had any erection in over 2 weeks! My penis felt very cold lifeless. Dr Kuehhass performed another CT scan after inducing a shot of caverject which induced and an engorged but not a ridged erection, this said the results came out about the same as my pre-opp assessment although the Dr K agreed that another leak had opened up and this was very likely to be in the crura hence to why the rigidity had been lost (For note the scero was done on my deep dorsal vein). To make matters worse I was depressed and on the anti-depressant sertraline 50mg both factors of course can impact on erectile function so as you can see I was in a loop.

The weekend after seeing the clinic on the 8th October, I thought I would try a 100mg Viagra. My wife was at a wedding for the weekend so I was just experimenting. I took this pill about 10.30am in the morning, by about 3pm I felt myself engorging slightly so I masturbated and I did get erect albeit not 100%. I was pleased that I had some function and when she returned on the Sunday we had sex and it worked well and she said I was a lot fuller. Life was ok after I thought.

About 4 days later we had sex again and this time it work but I did notice I started to lose my erection at times. During this time I masturbated to porn but could only do this sitting down as I would likely lose erections standing up which is likely based on the leak now being the crura which is higher up than the deep dorsal vein.

Over the last 3 weeks I have felt my erections getting weaker and weaker, even with the pills; it’s hard to get one and it only lasts with constant stimulation at around 65% erect then goes very soft. The last we had sex was 2 weeks ago and that didn’t last very long. My penis still feels very cold and I finding that I’m using PD5’s just to keep the blood circulating more than anything.

Living in the UK I have access to the NHS, so I went to see a respected consultant urologist who is the number 2 implanter in the UK, he was very sceptical about Scerothreapy and didn’t believe it offered a long term solution but wouldn’t consider implanting me until I had sorted out my depression at least 6 months had past. My other option is to go back to the clinic in London who also has a top implanter working for them privately and they would cover much of the cost based on what has happened.

My wife and I have been through hell and she has considered moving out more because of my depression than anything else. This said we love each other and that’s keeping us together at the moment.

In conclusion and for anyone thinking about any treatment of this type, please think carefully and ALWAYS listen to your wife or partner as I don’t think us men always do, I have paid a heavy price at 41 and many of you know it impacts on every aspect of your life. I don’t enjoy things much at the moment but I have a lovely wife and great kids to keep me going but at times it’s difficult.

I spoke again last week with the MD of the London clinc and I was impressed that they had conducted an internal review of the Scelothreapy procedure. He told they had contacted many previous patients and the outcomes where very mixed which indicated without him saying it directly that maybe it’s not quite as successful as they thought it was.

This said I have to be positive and always knew one day I would need an implant but not under these circumstances.

I will be very engaged with other FK members from now on in and will support others and seek support in equal measure.
Good luck to us all.
Scott (AKA Gollam121)

[Domino]

Seriously? Fuck Dr. Herwig to be such a money grabbing bitch. Sorry for my languange but he is doing surgerys and approaches that are experimental in ever way. he could totally ruin your life, and he did as we see in some members here....If find it unresponsible to even perform such surgerys....He claims on his website that this procedure is something new, and cures Venous Leak, fuck that bullshit, that surgery is done since the 80s and has never been sucessful, that guy should not see any money furthermore. Thats a typical case of someone using other peoples problems to benefit from....So WAKE UP! And trust only treatments that actually have proofen themselves...

Going for the Implant, iam outta here.
Good life all of ya.

[alibaba]

Domino, I agree. I have never heard of an on going successful case of this therapy. I was not about to try it and I had tried darn near everything except duct taping a fence post to it. Gollam, sorry you've had such a rough go. We all are gullible for the quick easy fixes.I sure have, tens therapy, accupuncture, pumps, pills, injections, shots, suppositories, and the list goes on. I guess if there REALLY was a quick easy fix, there would be no issues, but that is not the case. Best of luck to you.

[Echegollen]

Gollam, I really appreciate the time you took to share your story. I totally understand your frustration. At the same time, you were going for the implant anyways, weren't you? You said your penis got worse but did it ever work properly? At least now you know sclerotherapy doesn't work for you. Also, you mentioned they are offering you an implant with a discount. I find it pretty appealing. Since the implant is my next step, at least I know the money I invest in sclerotherapy might also serve for the implant in the worse case scenario...

Unfortunately, you seem to be the only one who was left worst after the sclerotherapy treatment. The others all seem to have had a slight improvement, even though they are all far from a cure. Personnally, if sclerotherapy can help me have quality erections by taking 5mg of Cialis each day and 100mg of Viagra before having sex, I will be more than happy. If I lose the little ability I have to have erections on my own from time time, so what ??? I can't have sex anyways. I'll just move on and go for the implant. However, before doing so, I need to have tried everything to be in peace of mind. Even if I only have 1 chance in 100 to have successful results, I think it is worth trying. I am only 31 years old and just feel way too young to have a bionic penis.

I will go for sclerotherapy on January and will share my experience with all you guys like some members did so generously.

Gollam, I wish you the best of luck with your implant and will be reading your posts about it.

[lost41]

It seems like the only ones that were much improved or "cured" thus far is Oxford and Razor1. I wonder how they are doing so far. Oxford and Razor, can you please update your conditions?

[merrix]

Actually I don't agree with the 2/5 cure rate.
Looking at both razor's and oxford's latest posts, they both mention things like:
They are still on pills
without pills it's hit and miss (finishing 3/3 but only stayed really hard 1/3)
etc, etc...

For me, the only definition of a cure is that one can throw away all pills and get a fully hard erection every time which lasts till the end every time. One that allows you to be spontaneous during sex, enabling you to change positions and use whatever pace of our in-and-out that you want.
If one is restricted by ED, as in must hurry up with a lot of friction and cannot take a break in the intercourse to give oral, cannot do all positions, etc, etc - then it is not a cure.

What razor and oxford describes is very similar to what I experience. if they are a 'success', then I am as well. I have noticed a huge improvement. But I am still depending on pills. Without pills it sucks. But with pills, I'd say I get very, very hard basically every time. If i do the positions I know work well, If I don't take too long time for foreplay, If I finish the intercourse rather quickly (approx 5 minutes) - then my dick probably is as good as any dick out there.
But the problem is that it means I am still restricted. I cannot be spontaneous. I need to take my viagra 45 minutes before (20 minutes for Cialis). I cannot do all positions. I cannot go slow and have sex for 30 minutes.

And this is not my definition of cured. Cured is all ED problems are 100% gone. And I still maintain that nobody here has achieved that result. In my opinion, 0/5 = 0% has been cured. 1 has gotten worse, and 4 have seen various degrees of improvement.

However - this is not to say I want to steer people away from the sclero. This is just to set your expectations right. Before sclero, if I would have known what the outcome would be for me, I would probably have been happy with this. I always said to myself, that if the sclero leads to me being able to have good sex with pills, then I am ok with that. And that's basically what happened.

What has changed for me is that i started to really look in to the alternative of an implant. This was not really on my mind before the sclero. I have just changed my base line for what I can accept. When it was really bad before sclero, I would have been happy with what I have today.
Now, I have moved my benchmark for what I am satisified with. Basically I am not interested in an 'improvement'. I am not interested in even thinking about what is an acceptable level of ED for me. I don't want any of it anymore. I want a dick which gets hard and stays hard every time I want to have sex. I want to get this issue off my mind. I don't want to have sexy wife who I know might get horny sometimes and would want to go for a spontaneous quickie. But who will not even try to make it happen because she knows her husband can't make it without pills.
That's why I go for the implant.

But we're all different, and if someone don't think the money is an issue, then just go for it. You may get better results than me, or you may be happy with the same results as I have. You may also refuse to take the step to have an implant, and if so, then sclero is probably the best you can get.

Best of luck to all of you out there.

[Echegollen]

I always said to myself, that if the sclero leads to me being able to have good sex with pills, then I am ok with that. And that's basically what happened.

But we're all different, and if someone don't think the money is an issue, then just go for it. You may get better results than me, or you may be happy with the same results as I have. You may also refuse to take the step to have an implant, and if so, then sclero is probably the best you can get.

Best of luck to all of you out there.

That's exactly what I am looking for in the moment. We'll see if I am still satisfied once I get... or if I get it I should say.

[AVL_UK]

I've just re-read this whole thread, just for the record the people who have had this done can be summarised here: (Feel free to correct me with updates guys)

razor - still uses cialis daily, but was happy with the response - he also had a possible hormone problem
gollam - unhappy with the response, situation is perhaps different due to having a ligation previously
seeking - went back to how it was pre-sclero - but was not taking any pills like razor was
merrix - with hormones in check, has seen a big improvement - is taking cialis daily and topping up with viagra before sex, still getting an implant even though he has had an improvement.

This is for new people to see it's efficacy for future reference.

I'm still debating over it as my VL was not genetic and is possibly not as bad as others here so might help me. Especially as Merrix says it did improve his glans. I think I'm going to wait until next winter to see if I get any improvements by then. I'm going to try daily cialis for improved bloodflow and will keep pumping regularly as well for the same reason and see if it can repair. I'm going to do some research on the priapus shot as well as shock therapy aimed specifically for improving VL. Seems like a lot of people try priapus for size, not for repair like it is intended. Don't know anything about ESWT, will look into it.

[Echegollen]

Great summary AVL_UK. It would be nice to get an update from Razor and Seeking though... It's been a while. I am getting a consultation with Dr Franklin Kuehhas via Skype this Monday. If he believes I am a good candidate, I am aiming to get the operation January. I will keep you guys updated.

AVL_UK, may I know what caused your venous leak?