Your experience to help me differentiating causes
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:50 am
Hello everyone.
This is my first post, my introduction (eh), and a request for help in identifying the source of my ED. I'm 31 and impotent since adolescence hormone kicks ended (age 24)
After 4 years of visiting 7 sexual health experts, doing the whole set of standard tests- cavernosography, cavernosometry, color duplex doppler ultrasound, evoked potentials , mri's , - the current diagnostic is absolutely contradictory: i've been diagnosed with neurological, venous leak, psychogenic, pure psychogenic, depending on which specialist you ask
Then it occurred to me: I did all sorts of tests to try to find the cause, but here's what I didn't do : ask around "how does it feel when it's cause A as opposed to when it's cause B".
As I can imagine many of you went through much of the same experience as me, I would like to ask you , particularly the ones with well identified problems what the symptoms and responses are exactly, to see which are more similar to what I feel.
- I have responded to doppler ultrasound (after 20 ug of prostaglandin) with >35 cm/s PSV so arteriogenic is excluded. Bloodwork is shows hormones are fine. Those are excluded thus.
- A venous leak was suspected when i didn't respond to 2 rigiscan tests (20 ug prostaglandin injected). A major leak has been excluded from having responded with 2 hour-long erections to other two tests where prostaglandin was injected (these were when I did a color doppler ultrasound and a cavernosometry).
So, it's definetly not a strong venous leak but maybe a small one.
- Neurogenic - no trauma and no other lesions. Doctors tell me "it's impossible that you have neurological lesions that affect solely the erection nerves and have no complaints whatsoever of other symptoms.". They also tell me that neuropatic patients respond extremely well to even 5 ug of prostaglandin. So ironically my failures with injections would exclude neuropaty.
- Psychogenic ... possibly. I feel pretty well and happy now, but it's true that i've been anxious and depressed in the past (due to work stuff, not sex stuff). Why would a past psychological problem affect masturbation while sitting or standing but not while lying down, that, I don't know.
So I thought of asking: for those of you with neurogenic causes: how does it feel ? Is it somehow position-dependent ? Do you get it up a bit but lose it ?
And for those with venous leak: is it that you get hard easily but lose it quickly ? What would I feel like if it wrtr a venous leak?
Could it be something related with my prostate and I wouldn't have any other symptoms?
Could it be from cycling? How does pudendal nerve entrapment feel like?
Finally, it sounds incredible that I can't masturbate because of psychogenic ED. Also no morning erections since I was 25! (I'm 31 now and otherwise in excelent shape).
If you could help me out a bit, I'd appreciate it. As of right now, some docs says that I just need to relax and maybe get some sex therapy and others say "you're nerve dead, get a protesis ...".
So right, ED, since age 24, now I'm 31. I'm on Yohimbine 20 mg daily + 10 mg cialis + l-argine-based-stuff (5 g arginine) before going to bed. Works about 50% of the times
This is my first post, my introduction (eh), and a request for help in identifying the source of my ED. I'm 31 and impotent since adolescence hormone kicks ended (age 24)
After 4 years of visiting 7 sexual health experts, doing the whole set of standard tests- cavernosography, cavernosometry, color duplex doppler ultrasound, evoked potentials , mri's , - the current diagnostic is absolutely contradictory: i've been diagnosed with neurological, venous leak, psychogenic, pure psychogenic, depending on which specialist you ask
Then it occurred to me: I did all sorts of tests to try to find the cause, but here's what I didn't do : ask around "how does it feel when it's cause A as opposed to when it's cause B".
As I can imagine many of you went through much of the same experience as me, I would like to ask you , particularly the ones with well identified problems what the symptoms and responses are exactly, to see which are more similar to what I feel.
- I have responded to doppler ultrasound (after 20 ug of prostaglandin) with >35 cm/s PSV so arteriogenic is excluded. Bloodwork is shows hormones are fine. Those are excluded thus.
- A venous leak was suspected when i didn't respond to 2 rigiscan tests (20 ug prostaglandin injected). A major leak has been excluded from having responded with 2 hour-long erections to other two tests where prostaglandin was injected (these were when I did a color doppler ultrasound and a cavernosometry).
So, it's definetly not a strong venous leak but maybe a small one.
- Neurogenic - no trauma and no other lesions. Doctors tell me "it's impossible that you have neurological lesions that affect solely the erection nerves and have no complaints whatsoever of other symptoms.". They also tell me that neuropatic patients respond extremely well to even 5 ug of prostaglandin. So ironically my failures with injections would exclude neuropaty.
- Psychogenic ... possibly. I feel pretty well and happy now, but it's true that i've been anxious and depressed in the past (due to work stuff, not sex stuff). Why would a past psychological problem affect masturbation while sitting or standing but not while lying down, that, I don't know.
So I thought of asking: for those of you with neurogenic causes: how does it feel ? Is it somehow position-dependent ? Do you get it up a bit but lose it ?
And for those with venous leak: is it that you get hard easily but lose it quickly ? What would I feel like if it wrtr a venous leak?
Could it be something related with my prostate and I wouldn't have any other symptoms?
Could it be from cycling? How does pudendal nerve entrapment feel like?
Finally, it sounds incredible that I can't masturbate because of psychogenic ED. Also no morning erections since I was 25! (I'm 31 now and otherwise in excelent shape).
If you could help me out a bit, I'd appreciate it. As of right now, some docs says that I just need to relax and maybe get some sex therapy and others say "you're nerve dead, get a protesis ...".
So right, ED, since age 24, now I'm 31. I'm on Yohimbine 20 mg daily + 10 mg cialis + l-argine-based-stuff (5 g arginine) before going to bed. Works about 50% of the times