How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

One of the newer treatments for ED, Shock Wave Therapy is still in it's experimental stages. While the treatment often sounds promising, it is only effective for a few patients and the results are not permanent. Informed Consumers are the best patients!
CanGetItUpButNoMore
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How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby CanGetItUpButNoMore » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:48 pm

It seems every office uses a different trademark name to describe their so-called shockwave treatment. I know that Gainswave(tm) is radial acoustic wave and I am avoiding all the docs who advertise that. And a couple of docs go out of their way to say they are using a focused shockwave but none that are near me. Are there any reference lists that indicate what equipment docs use? I even sent an email request to the distributor of the Storz DuoLith SD-1 for a reference, but no reply.
68yo. Diabetes & hypertension drugs but none that are infamous for ED causation. Increasing ED compounded by frequent anorgasmia. Viagra for 2 years. Cabergoline experimentation inconclusive. New to pumping (Encore). Supportive (to a limit) wife.

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?i

Postby Jamesbond » Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:01 pm

Hi
I thought of getting it done myself. Easier than getting an implant.
If you are in the US. One of the makers told me they here going to bring it into the US years go. They told me about a year. I got back to them about a year later. They told me ot had not been approved. By the way it was years ago. Still has not been approved. I found a few people offering it in my area. It was expensive.
One place looked like a health place that did massages. Think they also did hair for women.
I asked my urologist . He told why they have not paroled it. How many treatments? What’s the success rate?
Was the same questions I had asked before. Why someplace said I need 6 treatments. Some said 10-12.
It is approved in some countries. I asked a guy in this site if he had any success. He said it did not work for him. Said he did not about others.

I urge you to go to YouTube. A channel by Rena Malik Md
Gynecologist treating men for erectile dysfunction!?|
Marketing for shockwave therapy
Please watch the video.

Their is also something called the P-shot. I don’t think their is any proof that works either. One guy I talked to had a point. He said that shockwave treatment is cheaper than getting an implant. As far as I know no insurance company would pay for shockwave or the P-Shot. As far as I know they do pay for the implant.

I hope that helps.
If you have any more question, let me know.
Good luck to you.
Thinking of getting implant. Have not done it because of the length I
have lost.
50, Straight, I miss women

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby CanGetItUpButNoMore » Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:25 pm

Thanks for your reply. I have been all over YouTube and have probably seen a score or more videos on the subject (including Dr. Malik). They have been helpful in finding several doctors around the country but none near me.
68yo. Diabetes & hypertension drugs but none that are infamous for ED causation. Increasing ED compounded by frequent anorgasmia. Viagra for 2 years. Cabergoline experimentation inconclusive. New to pumping (Encore). Supportive (to a limit) wife.

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby Jamesbond » Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:12 am

Hi
Think there’s a few of them in NYC. California and Atlanta.
I think I saw one online in Florida if that helps.
Good luck.
Thinking of getting implant. Have not done it because of the length I
have lost.
50, Straight, I miss women

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby jwdetails » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:56 am

I believe there are only two approved low intensity shockwave machines in US - Urogold and Storz Duolith according to Dr. Goldstein. I spent thousands of dollars on shockwave prior to implant and it did not work, despite dr goldstein's experience.
62 year old, ED+PD, Coloplast Titan 22 cm no RTE in 2019 with Dr. Irwin Goldstein => failure, now with plaque excision/tunical expansion to Coloplast Titan 26 no RTE in 2022 by Dr. Darshan Patel, now with classic pump 2024 :D

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby SoInBull » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:41 am

I checked the machine my doctor is using, it is a Storz MP100. Is that good? Is it a "real" machine?

Honestly, I can't tell if the treatments are working. I'm 55, fit and active lifestyle. I still take 25 mg Cialis a day, use a pump, and take TRT. I'm sexually active every day -- mostly successfully. I use to notice more issues near the time of my monthly Shockwave treatment, so I assumed it was working. But I'm not sure.

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Re: How to determine if a doctor uses real shockwave?

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:02 pm

SoInBull wrote:I checked the machine my doctor is using, it is a Storz MP100. Is that good? Is it a "real" machine? .
I'm not sure. I don't know that model number but I do know Storz makes both focused and radial shockwave and the only one I know for certain is a focused ESWT is the SD-1. So, I highly doubt it.

A good way to tell is whether there is pain at the application site. A focused shockwave will pulse against your skin and each pulse might have a teeny bit of momentary pain. A radial device usually requires a numbing agent because the pain is significant and lasts for minutes. I'm curious to know if your experience fits into the latter or the former.

P.S. I had an appointment this week with a nationally regarded sexual medicine doctor and the subject came up of these charlatans who promote radial shockwave. His contempt was palpable.
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