Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

One of the newer treatments for ED, Shock Wave Therapy is still in it's experimental stages. While the treatment often sounds promising, it is only effective for a few patients and the results are not permanent. Informed Consumers are the best patients!
GideonX
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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby GideonX » Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:55 pm

While some members are reporting improvements, there isn't enough widespread evidence to make it a definitive solution. It’s worth noting that home machines might not offer the same level of intensity or safety as those administered by professionals, so there's always a risk involved. If you're considering it, it might be worth discussing with a urologist first to make sure it's safe for your specific condition and won't interfere with other treatments you’re using.

CanGetItUpButNotOff
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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:06 pm

The technology in home devices is radial shockwave and, search as I have, there is NO evidence that they do anything but warm your tennis. Men who report next-day success are obviously enjoying the placebo effect because the point of shockwave is to encourage angiogenesis which is a weeks or months long process.

I've paid for focused shockwave treatments. Do they work? No idea. But the science has some valid underpinnings and enough respected urologists opine that it MAY help that I'm willing to gamble a few thousand dollars.

You can see from my sig that I've tried just about everything. But I wouldn't waste a penny on Gainswave or any other radial shockwave device.
Born 1954. Diabetes, hypertension and atherosclerosis. Sildenafil is iffy. Tri-Mix (30/3/20 Pap/Phen/PGE1) a godsend pending long-term efficacy. Daily Cialis. Tried LiESWT, Botox, PT-141, Eroxon, QST, DUS, Vertica, cabergoline, psychotherapy+hypnotherapy.

CanGetItUpButNotOff
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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:57 am

Here is an excellent 8 minute discussion of the state of focused shockwave. He also dismisses radial shockwave as the sham that it is.

Start at the 8 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/live/cxu1y-K4ygQ?si=VKQp95hsAJjF9z3M

P.S. Gainswave is radial shockwave, i.e. NOT the real thing.
Born 1954. Diabetes, hypertension and atherosclerosis. Sildenafil is iffy. Tri-Mix (30/3/20 Pap/Phen/PGE1) a godsend pending long-term efficacy. Daily Cialis. Tried LiESWT, Botox, PT-141, Eroxon, QST, DUS, Vertica, cabergoline, psychotherapy+hypnotherapy.

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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby GoodWood » Sat Mar 22, 2025 5:35 pm

I’ve been an active member here for years. NO ONE has said, “Wow, what an amazing treatment! It made a huge lasting improvement!”

The ONLY person it seems to work for is the doc that owns the device ($$$$$$).


Just think about it, if it actually worked LOTS of guys would be reporting success. That just isn’t the case.

Pills, shots, VED, implant. THOSE are the treatments that work. Will others be developed? I’m sure. But it’s not shockwave.
56yo, NYC. ED started at 40. Pills first, then shots for nearly 10 years. 24cm Coloplast Titan w/classic pump implanted by Dr Eid 3/25/2025.

Mazzio
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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby Mazzio » Sun Mar 30, 2025 2:25 pm

Problem is that shockwave is big in Europe but the users of Frank Talk are mostly from USA. And in USA shockwave business is spoiled with gainswave and cheap units bought from China.
65 yrs, had venous leak all my life, sildenafil and other pills don't work anymore properly, using Caverject with pills.

CanGetItUpButNotOff
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Re: Ok convince me shockwave is a terrible idea?

Postby CanGetItUpButNotOff » Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:14 pm

Mazzio wrote:Problem is that shockwave is big in Europe but the users of Frank Talk are mostly from USA. And in USA shockwave business is spoiled with gainswave and cheap units bought from China.

+1
Born 1954. Diabetes, hypertension and atherosclerosis. Sildenafil is iffy. Tri-Mix (30/3/20 Pap/Phen/PGE1) a godsend pending long-term efficacy. Daily Cialis. Tried LiESWT, Botox, PT-141, Eroxon, QST, DUS, Vertica, cabergoline, psychotherapy+hypnotherapy.


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