With the exception of traumatic injury and prostatectomy, ED usually isn’t an On/Off switch. For most of us it’s a progressive condition.
I can still get morning wood. I can still get hard enough with porn to jack off. But there is NO WAY I can get firm enough for penetration any longer without a BIG shot of POTENT Trimix.
I enjoy fucking. I’m not satisfied with just having morning wood and jacking off to porn. So when shots stop working for me I’ll get an implant. I expect that will be in the next year or two.
I anticipate on the morning of my implant surgery I’ll wake with morning wood. That brief morning wood isn’t enough.
I try to limit my shares to my own experience. I’ve found that telling other people what they should or shouldn’t do doesn’t work.
If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
55yo, NYC. ED started at 40. 50 units BiMix + Atropine (Pap 30/Phen 6/Atr 0.2). Prostaglandins caused aching. Doses increasing. A cock ring helps. Phallosan Forte tension devise to maintain size. Eager to talk about implant experiences.
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
GoodWood wrote:I try to limit my shares to my own experience.
Appreciated, that’s exactly what these forums are useful for
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Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
PSSDorAmINormal wrote:I just recently read an article that was actually in a foreign language (Russian I think) and I translated. What amazed me was that this was about the first time I had read that as men age they need more direct stimulation to the penis. I think the age for this to begin was 40. They talked about how the direct stim is needed as opposed to just a sexy thought or something. Also it was mentioned that slight distractions can happen and cause the erection to go down. When I read all that I thought wow that is what happens to me as I've aged. I noticed this kind of stuff happening in my mid to late thirties. It's not that I can't get erect at all, but it seems different at times and lately I notice a slight lean to the left. And from my self vantage point, I seem to think there is a slight twist or rotation of sorts. I wonder if that is caused from masturbation and my grip pulls it one way. My point is that I don't think a man would take surgery risk just because he needs some direct loving touch on his penis to get hard. Is there something wrong with that?
Nothing wrong with that. There is an often-repeated phrase I have seen on Franktalk, "Nothing beats a good, blood-filled penis." But if you cannot get one of those (or the ones you get collapse within seconds, as was my case), a saline-enhanced penis comes in a pretty good second.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
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Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
I will say everyone is different. Arousal is a huge part of it for me. I have pssd from antidepressants and if I can get turned on it works. Problem is it’s almost impossible . Porn sometimes works because it’s different or new but I don’t react to visual stimuli really anymore and my sensation is horrible there so manually it’s tough as well. For me I can get by rotating injections at my lowest points and oral meds other times but it’s high doses and the side effects can be a pain along with trying to be spontaneous. So while I agree with the thread I also would also say some people have different scenarios. I can’t just go and masterbate alone without pills and really trying. Without it it’s useless and that’s about the same results I get with my wife so it’s not an anxiety for me. I have considered the implant based on the work I have to put in otherwise..
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
Even tho the "style" of Rufian is a bit off, i have to agree with his main point.
Way too many times i've seen people come here, look around for a few days, post 3-4 things and end up making a thread in the style of "oh noes, my dick failed once, i am super scared about my extreme libido and sexual power, i am going to get an implant next month!!!1"
Obviously exaggerated, but there ARE similar type of posts here, from people who haven't even spent a year fighting ED, let alone do proper research... And this DOES seem to be "fueled" by :
1. Doctors probably trying to make more money, milking our unfortunes.
2. Multitude of positive feedbacks here and especially the type of posts going "i wish i had done it earlier".
Obviously everything is to be taken with a grain of salt, but i guess most people don't. They read things like that and think "oh boy, i am not wasting my life like this loser, imma gonna get me an implant asap and keep fucking them pussies!"
We here, on the forum, don't really have any DATA. We have stories. Stories are nice and useful, definitely, but can't be a base to make a decision. Especially a decision that you can't ever go back on.
I honestly wish we had actual, real, surveys here for things like implant success rate, time before a revision, dick size, etc. After all, i suppose the information given would be more honest than a "men's health magazine" type of bullshit where everyone questioned would lie.
Take my post with a grain of salt, in case it's not obvious. This is the internet after all, not your local library
[edit] Rufian - Reading through your posts - your problem does indeed seem to be entirely on a psychological level. I am not a doctor, but i'd suggest cutting off the porn completely. Get rid of that shit for a while and try to live a "real" sexual life. The "ez solution at home" of watching porn and wanking might be like a junkie's solution to life - get wasted on meth and smother the pain away (if i can paraphrase the great Trainspotting movie). Face the fear, get a real woman (not a whore, someone who's real and will understand and help you out) and get through this anxiety. It might work out, who knows. [/edit]
Way too many times i've seen people come here, look around for a few days, post 3-4 things and end up making a thread in the style of "oh noes, my dick failed once, i am super scared about my extreme libido and sexual power, i am going to get an implant next month!!!1"
Obviously exaggerated, but there ARE similar type of posts here, from people who haven't even spent a year fighting ED, let alone do proper research... And this DOES seem to be "fueled" by :
1. Doctors probably trying to make more money, milking our unfortunes.
2. Multitude of positive feedbacks here and especially the type of posts going "i wish i had done it earlier".
Obviously everything is to be taken with a grain of salt, but i guess most people don't. They read things like that and think "oh boy, i am not wasting my life like this loser, imma gonna get me an implant asap and keep fucking them pussies!"
We here, on the forum, don't really have any DATA. We have stories. Stories are nice and useful, definitely, but can't be a base to make a decision. Especially a decision that you can't ever go back on.
I honestly wish we had actual, real, surveys here for things like implant success rate, time before a revision, dick size, etc. After all, i suppose the information given would be more honest than a "men's health magazine" type of bullshit where everyone questioned would lie.
Take my post with a grain of salt, in case it's not obvious. This is the internet after all, not your local library
[edit] Rufian - Reading through your posts - your problem does indeed seem to be entirely on a psychological level. I am not a doctor, but i'd suggest cutting off the porn completely. Get rid of that shit for a while and try to live a "real" sexual life. The "ez solution at home" of watching porn and wanking might be like a junkie's solution to life - get wasted on meth and smother the pain away (if i can paraphrase the great Trainspotting movie). Face the fear, get a real woman (not a whore, someone who's real and will understand and help you out) and get through this anxiety. It might work out, who knows. [/edit]
40 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.
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Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
Hunchback wrote:(edited for focus)
We here, on the forum, don't really have any DATA. We have stories. Stories are nice and useful, definitely, but can't be a base to make a decision. Especially a decision that you can't ever go back on.
I honestly wish we had actual, real, surveys here for things like implant success rate, time before a revision, dick size, etc. After all, i suppose the information given would be more honest than a "men's health magazine" type of bullshit where everyone questioned would lie.
We do have access to real data (not come-ons, advertisements, popular press, "mens health magazines" etc.). Medical Journals found on-line are a wealth of real data.
NIH (National Institutes of Health), , https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles),
American Journal of Medicinet (https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(06)00689-9/fulltext),
URO Today, https://www.urotoday.com/mens-health/er ... ction.html
May Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20355782
American Urological Association Journals https://www.auajournals.org/doi/10.1097 ... 0002592.17
and many others.
Just search for them and ignore the popular press and advertisements.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
I know I didn't really consider an implant until after I realized it can correct my Peyronies and the pain it causes my wife and I during sex. It really sucks to be able to get aroused and once at full mast incur a pain severe enough to make it drop like a hammer. Although I would love to correct my problem and stay natural, an implant is becoming more attractive for several reasons - first, I am tired of being jabbed all the time with xiaflex treatments that work, but take a long time. Second, I hate waiting to have sex while recovering from treatment, third, I am tired of the pain it causes, and lastly, my wife has a freakishly strong libido and it would be nice to keep it up for her as long as she wants to play with it. Yes, I can get hard in the blink of an eye, but I often dread it for the pain it causes me.
56, married 32 years to an amazing woman, BPH, PD (47deg down to ~29), current Xiaflex treatment with Pentoxifylline & Cialis. Penile modeling with Restore X. Occasional ED triggered from pain response during intercourse.
Re: If you can get morning woods, hard with porn, masturbation and alone, you dont need an implant
Lost Sheep wrote:We do have access to real data (not come-ons, advertisements, popular press, "mens health magazines" etc.). Medical Journals found on-line are a wealth of real data.
NIH (National Institutes of Health), , https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles),
American Journal of Medicinet (https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(06)00689-9/fulltext),
URO Today, https://www.urotoday.com/mens-health/er ... ction.html
May Clinic https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20355782
American Urological Association Journals https://www.auajournals.org/doi/10.1097 ... 0002592.17
and many others.
Just search for them and ignore the popular press and advertisements.
By "we" i meant we here, on the forum. I know there's actual data online, but the discussion was more about the "information" shared here, where quite a few people end up looking for information
40 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.
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