mayoung10 wrote:Long story short, in my late teens I smoked 2-3gs of pot a day for a period of 6 months. I was high for 16+ hours a day.
Since then I have been dealing with organic erectile dysfunction. Saw a Urologist who confirmed this and put me on cialis and pentoxifylline, which I've been taking for the past few years.
From all the research I've done I think the chronic use of THC impaired my penile smooth muscles.
I haven't improved at all except for one time I ran an enclomiphene (SERM) cycle. I'm planning to try DHT cream next because it seems my ED improves when my androgens rise (Im not hypo, my normal T levels are 600 ng/dl, so I need to raise that higher to see ED improvements).
Just wondering if anyone else has gotten ED from marijuana abuse, I know its pretty uncommon.
I asked about your nocturnal erections, because if they appear to stop occurring, it is an indication that some form of organic malfunction is developing.
Something causes them to stop happening and the fact that they stop also can contribute to the initial condition, through hypoxia of the erectile tissues (ET). The reduction of nocturnal erections can be the sole cause or an addition causation of ED.
There does seem to be quite a connection of cannabis use and ED, perhaps not as uncommon as you think:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6893937/You have probably already seen this review, as it sounds like you have done some research. There appears to be a number of possible causal of factors, currently being researched in relation to cannabis use and ED, and also general cardiovascular issues.
The penis is just an extension of the peripheral vascular system. Often problems that are beginning to occur with our vascular system, start to show symptoms with the vascular system in the penis first. This could be due in part to the premise that in many individuals this micro vascular system is not able to withstand much of a change or deterioration in structure/function before serious malfunction occurs. I have read that it is hypothesised that only a 15% decrease in smooth muscle content is needed in the ET before CVOD ensues.
When smooth muscle declines, collagen deposition occurs in its place. The blood vessels in the corpus cavernosum are then less compliant, that is they do relax to the degree they once did. This is penile fibrosis. The endothelium in these tissues can also become dysfunctional due to lower oxygen levels in the penis, which affects NOS activity. Both of these problems can occur or can be accelerated by oxidative stress and an increase in ROS (reactive oxygen species).
I have mentioned the above as you did say you felt that smooth muscle alteration may have had some contribution to your ED.
I found this very recent study pertinent, on the animal model with regard to cannabis use and with what it terms as typical western dietary habits. It focuses on what I have briefly mentioned above.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 6120302002One of the suggested possible causes of cannabis use sexual dysfunction in the male mentioned in the first link, was related to a peripheral mechanism with regard to the cannabinoid receptors which are located on NOS containing nerve fibres in the corpus cavernosum.
From what I could understand (as I have not been able to read the full text of the below article) and possibly postulate is that due to over stimulation of these receptors, some form of down regulation of the receptor may occur. How long this may remain in place is another question which only further research may elucidate.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19147270/It is interesting that you noticed some improvement with using a SERM, Enclomiphene citrate. Did you have your T levels assayed whilst on this?
There appears to be a lot of conflicting information about T levels and Marijuana use. Some studies have concluded that it lowers T levels and interferes with the HPTA, whilst others have demonstrated that it can raise T levels. Some of this may be attributable to frequency, dosage and or both.
How are your nocturnal erections now that some time has passed since your intense use of Marijuana?
Did your urologist find some indication of CVOD (venous leak) from testing?
Are you using PDE5 inhibitors for just on demand use or chronically?
There is some evidence that the chronic use of PDE5 inhibitors can reverse penile fibrosis or halt the cascade of events that perpetuate the damage caused by oxidative stress.