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Hiya people,
Glad to join this forum today; looks like tons of insightful knowledge and information share.

I'm 45, diagnosed with venous leak in Sep22 with an EDV of 11 cm/s. Been having ED for the past 14+ years, was on Viagra 20 mg which worked until last year and then it stopped. Went to an urologist, who initially said everything looked fine - on my insistence went for the Doppler Ultrasound and diagnosed, Venous leak. He prescribed a high dosage Viagra and asked me to enjoy which as I understand means am on borrowed time.

Reading through the wide world of web, has anyone here with mild to moderate, venous leak experienced success with just kegel exercies, PRP shot or Shockwave therapy?

Came across this, which got published only a few months ago: https://www.intechopen.com/online-first/85193 so wanted to see if anyone on the forums has pursued a surgical treatment, called penile dorsal vein ligation?

Ed

Vein ligation or embolization can work. It may not let you get 100% hard with it being hard to completely block the leaking veins but it can improve erections. It doesn't last long, the body is clever and can just make a new vein leak, my urologist told me less than 50% of patients have success with the procedure past 2/3 years, some people say it only worked for them for a few weeks. People on this forum are very quick to suggest going straight from pills/injections to implant, while vein surgery doesn't seem to be a definitive answer to ED at all, I feel it is better to try the procedure and potentially fix the issue of dysfunction instead of masking it with injections or going for the irreversible implant. Even for future victims of ED surely more research should be put into solving the issue, however far away we might be from that, instead of researching implants

curious_ed wrote:Hiya people,
Glad to join this forum today; looks like tons of insightful knowledge and information share.

I'm 45, diagnosed with venous leak in Sep22 with an EDV of 11 cm/s. Been having ED for the past 14+ years, was on Viagra 20 mg which worked until last year and then it stopped. Went to an urologist, who initially said everything looked fine - on my insistence went for the Doppler Ultrasound and diagnosed, Venous leak. He prescribed a high dosage Viagra and asked me to enjoy which as I understand means am on borrowed time.

Reading through the wide world of web, has anyone here with mild to moderate, venous leak experienced success with just kegel exercies, PRP shot or Shockwave therapy?

Came across this, which got published only a few months ago: https://www.intechopen.com/online-first/85193 so wanted to see if anyone on the forums has pursued a surgical treatment, called penile dorsal vein ligation?

Ed

Borrowed time… perfectly well said. thats my biggest concern too and reason why i try everything and I dont take pills being only 27.

Read about professeur Eric Allaire. He offers to do CT cavernosography + he offer some vascular operations as treatment.
I had done CT angiography and it revealed nothing. Narrowed cavernous arteries were found and there is said „no leak” found.

Then some pro implanted franktalkers told me angiography is bad and its not correct examination to diagnose/rule out venous leak. That angiography take look at arteries, not veins.
Its super confusing. Dr Eric Allaire also said i need caverno CT not angio…


Also When you started having issues 14+ years ago and since venous leak diagnose did you had morning erections ? if so how are they and how often they appeared ?

I've been reading this forum for ten years and have seen vanishingly few reports of successful venous surgery.

dg_moore wrote:I've been reading this forum for ten years and have seen vanishingly few reports of successful venous surgery.

In my opinion, as well as from the experience of an acquaintance of mine, it is possible to have lasting results with venous surgery, only if the venous leakage is not congenital and there is no general problem with the veins of the penis. According to angiologists, if the problem is traumatic and related to a problem point on the penis due to trauma, successful embolization surgery can be done. The solution is possible, because in this case the body will not flow through other veins, because the rest of the structure of the penis is healthy. The veins are corrected only at the traumatic point.

And last but not least, I want to remind you that recently it is often mentioned that venous leakage is a symptom, not a diagnosis. In the case of an incorrectly performed Doppler (insufficient amount of activating agent, as well as a number of other factors), venous leakage can occur. In my opinion, this is not well enough understood and this symptom should reveal other factors that give the final diagnosis of ED. Depending on the final diagnosis, treatment should be selected. I'm sure there are many guys who have had ED who haven't visited this forum and have corrected their ED with many other means, not just pills, implants and injections. Diets, diabetes control (rarely corrects ED), venous operations in properly selected patients, cardiovascular diseases with control over them, depressions and many others. I can't imagine that I can trust my diagnosis - venous leakage 15cm EDV, with almost no erection, when on days when I feel aroused I can maintain an erection of 90-95% for more than 5 min. At the same time, there are days when I cannot even achieve 70%. Problems with the pelvic floor are also possible, because the spasms during ejaculation are extremely weak. But guys, the symptom of venous leakage can happen for many reasons. (personal opinion and I do not commit anyone to this).

dg_moore wrote:I've been reading this forum for ten years and have seen vanishingly few reports of successful venous surgery.

Exactly. Could not stay hard until I couldn't even get hard.

My surgeon, regular uro, cardio all told me. Get an implant as it will work indefinitely and has very high satisfaction from patients and patients' partners.

I just got an implant 6 weeks ago.

Here is what nobody told me:

You will again feel like the man you are.
Confidence goes from zero to 100%
It will work, do its job, not fail me, dispense satisfaction measured in hours. never embarass me, and if it breaks again is easily fixed.
I control the hardness level for partner's comfort and desires
I can dispense measured or unsurpassed pleasure whenever I choose to a very willing partner
No compounding pharmacy prices and injections.
No pills that only work a little sometimes.
No more snake oil sales.

My biggest concern after implant is now hiding my new shower even when flaccid. Try that on for size after ED for a few years.

I have a hip implant and I get to walk like I used to. I also have a penis implant and now get to fuck like I used to, always wanted to, and also only imagined.

Stenlie_ wrote:And last but not least, I want to remind you that recently it is often mentioned that venous leakage is a symptom, not a diagnosis. In the case of an incorrectly performed Doppler (insufficient amount of activating agent, as well as a number of other factors), venous leakage can occur. In my opinion, this is not well enough understood and this symptom should reveal other factors that give the final diagnosis of ED. Depending on the final diagnosis, treatment should be selected. I'm sure there are many guys who have had ED who haven't visited this forum and have corrected their ED with many other means, not just pills, implants and injections. Diets, diabetes control (rarely corrects ED), venous operations in properly selected patients, cardiovascular diseases with control over them, depressions and many others. I can't imagine that I can trust my diagnosis - venous leakage 15cm EDV, with almost no erection, when on days when I feel aroused I can maintain an erection of 90-95% for more than 5 min. At the same time, there are days when I cannot even achieve 70%. Problems with the pelvic floor are also possible, because the spasms during ejaculation are extremely weak. But guys, the symptom of venous leakage can happen for many reasons. (personal opinion and I do not commit anyone to this).

1:1 case, even same EDV. same thing about no response to injection. also somedays struggle to get and new 70% while others day (rare) i can get 90-95% and penetrate

I find it interesting how everyone says that the implant is a final solution. Forever. Like any procedure, it is a temporary solution. Like pills, injections and anything else. The pills are a temporary solution until you need to switch to another type of inhibitor. Injections are a temporary solution until they start to fail or you change the mix. The implant is a temporary solution until it breaks or fails and you are operated on again. Everything is temporary until it fails and is replaced by something else. This also applies to the implant. It is the LAST ( FINAL ) solution, but not a permanent solution. Or no one counts the operation as the next change.It should also not be forgotten that if you can still work with other types of medical aids, you should not think about an implant. Especially when it comes to large penises. Post-implant depression related to the drastic change in size will affect the psyche just as negatively. there are boys who after a year approach their previous sizes, but are still quite far from them. We just choose different temporary solutions.

Stenlie_ wrote:I find it interesting how everyone says that the implant is a final solution. Forever. Like any procedure, it is a temporary solution. Like pills, injections and anything else. The pills are a temporary solution until you need to switch to another type of inhibitor. Injections are a temporary solution until they start to fail or you change the mix. The implant is a temporary solution until it breaks or fails and you are operated on again. Everything is temporary until it fails and is replaced by something else. This also applies to the implant. It is the LAST ( FINAL ) solution, but not a permanent solution. Or no one counts the operation as the next change.It should also not be forgotten that if you can still work with other types of medical aids, you should not think about an implant. Especially when it comes to large penises. Post-implant depression related to the drastic change in size will affect the psyche just as negatively. there are boys who after a year approach their previous sizes, but are still quite far from them. We just choose different temporary solutions.

I think going for CT cavernosography to dr. Allaire is best what we can do so far. His operations are good and people report much positives. I just want to already know at least full, proper diagnose of my issues.

Only grandpas here recommend going bionic. Thats fucked up. And those words about how implant is cool and sensation is the same. How sensation can remain the same if u dont have blood dick but balloon dick ?!?!

If implants would be so cool then male pornstar actore would all be implanted and insecured. But I dont know a single male name in porn industry who has implant.