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Hi guys,

Had an NPT earlier this year. it was a confusing and disorganised affair but I'll save that for another day. Today I found the results and wondered what you all thought, particularly those of you who may also have had an NPT...


1. I had 1 under par nocturnal erection and 2 standard ones, one of which apparently lasted 48 minutes.
2. These happened during deep sleep so I wouldn't have noticed.
3. They consider this normal and will be recommending to my GP that I am brought off my daily Cialis prescription.

I have a few issues with this:

1. In a normal night's sleep I thought 4-6 nocturnal erections were considered normal.
2. The rigiscan records increases in circumference of the tip and base of your penis - I don't know how this can accurately measure rigidity. I could have had a 48 minute non-rigid, semi-erection.
3. I'd been taking daily cialis 10mg up until a couple of days before the test. They claimed it would be out of my system completely by the time of the test. I'm not sure I agree.
4. How did they know I was in a deep sleep? - I wasn't connected to an ECG.
5. None of this explains over 10 years of consistent symptoms - no erection during masturbation, sex, or at night (to the best of my knowledge). The woodiness one can clearly feel in my penis. Also the extreme turtling I experience at the slightest exercise, which has worsened as my ED has worsened. Finally my loss of flaccid length and general tightness I experience. To take me off regular cialis seems pretty harsh in my view

Look, I don't want to sound like I'm in denial here, but it feels like the benchmark for 'normal' is set pretty low and there's no appreciation of any kind of spectrum. Did you get a partial erection once in 1995? Well, you must be okay then.

Anyway, reading this, what do you guys think? Any thoughts?

Best

Peety

Hi Peet Try this link, does not really tell much.

http://www.issm.info/sexual-health-qa/w ... -npt-test/

I think the bands can tell if its rigid or just a semi as a semi would not expand it. OK

NOWHARD

Thanks Nowhard, although this article would suggest that the NPT test is not a perfect test, including when it comes to rigidity.

http://academlib.com/5609/health/need_specialized_tests

"The RigiScan measures only radial rigidity, that is, rigidity across the width or circumference; it does not measure axial rigidity, or rigidity across the length of the penis. Axial rigidity is the most important measurement in predicting vaginal penetration because it is used to assess the ability of the penis to stay straight despite pressure against the tip."

Hi Peet, if your getting a rigid penis bottom and top then the middle be hard as well, your find it hard anyother way.

NOWHARD

I disagree.

During a semi-erection the girth of your penis can increase without the shaft becoming hard enough for penetrative sex. Despite the name, the rigiscan detects changes in your girth, not your overall rigidity.

I've read about impotent men who have sex using a VED and constriction ring. Certain positions are not recommended as the VED-induced erection is not a 'true' erection - girth is maintained but the penis is not very rigid. I believe this supports my argument above.

Hi Peet, Pumping is so different from a natural erection where blood get locked in, this way its hard all the way up to your gland, and don't forget that the base of your penis is not the start of as your find that there is about 3 inch's inside your body, so your first test at the base is about a third of way up your penis.

Care to rethink then, if your getting nocturnal erections and morning woods, your OK

NOWHARD

Hi Peet have a look down this link your see just what I mean. OK

http://www.safepenisenlargement.com/ana ... man-penis/

NOWHARD

"Pumping is so different from a natural erection where blood get locked in"

I agree, but the point I was making is that a semi-erect penis does not need to be hard to gain a significant (and recordable) amount of girth. An instrument that only records girth cannot be 100% accurate in assessing one's ability to get a full, proper, true, natural erection.

We must bear in mind that the bar many urologists set for 'normal' is pretty low. If you were to notice one very weak nocturnal erection in a 2 year period this would be considered normal, which of course in reality, it isn't. Put it this way, I had an MRI scan earlier in the year. They gave me caverject but it had no effect. I entered the MRI machine with a completely flaccid penis, but it was reported that I responded well to the drug.

The tests I have had do not explain over 10 years of consistent symptoms including: zero erection during sex and masturbation, no nocturnal erections or morning wood that I have noticed, Cialis becoming increasingly ineffective, lost flaccid length, the extreme turtling during exercise, and the woodiness one can feel inside my penis.

Thanks for link. I'm aware the penis continues into the body. I have a layman's knowledge of penis anatomy but it's a sound one nonetheless. I'm not sure I trust a website that promotes male enhancement pills.

Best

Peety

So really Peet your discrediting the results, if so why did you have them done?, so what is your weight are you over weight?, and what kind of life syle do you lead, if your a lover of fast foods and a few drinks each day, I know you use the gym but some guys still lead that kind of life style why using a gym, try this mix of mine, it will clean your blood up and get your blood zinging round your body.
Reason for this if you have cholesterol deposits round your veins which is plaque this should clear it all away unblock any blocked veins.

The way out and clearing away plaque would be to get on Cayenne Pepper, Turmeric with black pepper and garlic, take this each morning and see how you go.

For each heaped teaspoon of turmeric you add a ¼ teaspoon of ground black pepper, this helps the turmeric to get absorbed into your system better.

The whole mix its all very healthy for you.

You just mix CP and Turmeric and BP 50/50 in olive oil and then mix with tomato paste and thin it with olive oil, at first you just mix this to a heat ( this the heat that CP gives off) that suits you, and over time you can slowly increase the CP and Turmeric.

You take 3 teaspoonful’s each morning first thing, you wash each spoonful down with water, before anything else just after you get up, one thing it will warm you up with this mix, which will also help would be very fine chopped garlic, just do a whole head, chopped fine, and keep in olive oil, with this you add dried parsley, a couple of good desert spoonful’s and mix, you just add a teaspoonful on top of the CP an turmeric mix, just mix into the top take as said.

The Parsley its very good for the blood and helps keep your Cholesterol down.

Please do keep both jars in the fridge, keeps a lot better that way.

Now if you google and read up about all three, there very good for ED, your cholesterol, heart and it clears blocked arteries and veins, good at lowering HBP, prostate, prostitutes, clearing plague of a venous leak and RA, garlic is also very good for your blood, so along with the CP and turmeric with BP, your be doing your body the world of good.

Turmeric is a great way of fighting and lowering your triglyceride numbers when you have high cholesterol, and turmeric is also a way of fighting certain cancers.
Sauce for info is, http://www.turmericforhealth.com
New link for turmeric and HBP, http://www.turmericforhealth.com/turmer ... d-pressure


At first you really need to be taken this 3 times a day the other 2 times just before meals, for 2 weeks, then just twice a day for 2 weeks then just the once at first thing in the mornings, great way to start the day.

And yes have had ED now in recovery and do take what is above daily along with other supplements and a hormone.

Good blood flow is necessary for harder erections and a healthy body.

Cayenne Pepper, Turmeric with BP and Garlic, is the way to help good blood flow for erections and lots of other ailment’s.

So do hope this helps you.

NOWHARD

PS This really needs a 12 week trail, to see if its going to work for you, if its for RA do increase it up, the stronger it is the better it works for you.

Don’t forget to up the amount of CP and turmeric as you go on.

Are you on any meds for HBP, depression and anxiety or statins for high cholesterol, as these meds will kill erections OK

Just do the 12 weeks and see how you get on, if it works just keep it going

Unfortunately,
Medication for HBP is an erection killer! I never found one that didn't affect my 'plumbing'. Radiation treatments finished me off. Now happily 'bionic'.
Donnie