Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

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Ishv300
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Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby Ishv300 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:30 pm

Hi all, new guy here to Injection therapy.

I've been using trimix 30/1/10 for a couple weeks with positive results. Currently using about 22 units with gives me about an 45 minutes to an hour of usable erection.
I can also use 24 -25 units with effects ranging between 2 -3 hrs. As you can see going up just a small amount gives me a duration a lot longer than needed. That's part of my dilemma.

The reason i requested a stronger mix (30/1/20) is because although the previous mix was working well i wanted to see if i could get more firmness to my erection. Right now i feel like the firmness is averaging 90% of what it could be. It occasionally peaks for a minute or two at max firmness and i enjoy that feeling very much.

So my question is given the new mix what would be a good starting volume? trying to avoid a prolonged erection but i also want a positive result.



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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby bldoink » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:37 pm

Hi, welcome to the forum.

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So, did your doctor have a suggestion for the new starting dose?

If the ingredient that was increased represents the PGE-1 (alprostadil) then the most potent ingredient was doubled. With the sensitivity you showed to a small increase of your original dose I think I'd be very careful.

I'm thinking you need to start working up a dose again. I'd say start at 10 or 12 units or less. That's my expert recommendation (note my credentials described earlier in this post). I wouldn't worry too much about having a perfect session your first time or two with the new mix.

Rather than worry too much about a perfect session with your S.O. it would be wiser try a solo session or two to work out your dose. If you don't want to do that then explain to your SO or partner that it's experimental and results may be unsatisfactory. Let there be no stress or worry about getting the correct dose for an outstanding performance.

Your thinking on increasing the alprostadil to increase hardness is valid IMHO.

Error on the side of caution. You don't want an ER trip. That will kill the mood for sure.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby dakotadoug » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:19 pm

I have been on the 30/1/10 Trimix injection for 2 years. The firmess of my erections have decreased over time even though my MD has approved dosage increase from 30 units to 55 units. I pushed the limit yesterday to 60 units and didn't see any difference compared to my last 55 unit injection.

What difference can I expect from going to the 30/1/20 formulation? I see my Ed doc tomorrow. Thanks

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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby Rusty4.5 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:39 pm

I’m new to trimix, only used twice once was at Drs. Office, 5 units produced erection that was maybe 75% hard. My second was 10 units and enough for penetration but maybe 90%. My script is 30/5/20. I will try 14 units next. Erections have lasted around 90 minutes.
Rusty4 Hated side effects of pills, they quit working over year ago
Goal is future implant, enjoying trimix for now,
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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby bldoink » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:12 pm

dakotadoug wrote:What difference can I expect from going to the 30/1/20 formulation? I see my Ed doc tomorrow. Thanks

I don't have any expertise to give guidance on formulas. Nor do I have any idea of the cause of your ED or the reason you current mix has become less effective or any expertise to suggest a solution even if I did. I will offer a link to a PDF from a Pharmacy that does a pretty good job of explaining mixes. I have no other experience with the pharmacy and don't endorse it for that reason:
http://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/uploads/ED%20Switching%20Guide.pdf
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R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby stephen54 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:37 am

Ishv300 wrote:Hi all, new guy here to Injection therapy.

I've been using trimix 30/1/10 for a couple weeks with positive results. Currently using about 22 units with gives me about an 45 minutes to an hour of usable erection.
I can also use 24 -25 units with effects ranging between 2 -3 hrs. As you can see going up just a small amount gives me a duration a lot longer than needed. That's part of my dilemma.

The reason i requested a stronger mix (30/1/20) is because although the previous mix was working well i wanted to see if i could get more firmness to my erection. Right now i feel like the firmness is averaging 90% of what it could be. It occasionally peaks for a minute or two at max firmness and i enjoy that feeling very much.

So my question is given the new mix what would be a good starting volume? trying to avoid a prolonged erection but i also want a positive result.



Thanks!

I'll be introducing myself shortly.


I definitely don't know what would be a good starting volume to answer your question and I don't think any of us here can really do a good job answering this for you. Trimix is so ridiculously individualized. It's insanely effective for a lot of us, but it does take a bit of babysitting and tweaking for some to fine tune, and to continue longer term with efficacy and the results we want.

To my knowledge, the 3 constituent ingredients used to produce Trimix are typically listed in this order as follows:

Papaverine / Phentolamine / Prostaglandin (Alprostadil)

You were prescribed what's very commonly a starter dose. Same dose I was on for almost 5 years. My pharmacy called it "Mix #5":
mix #5: 30mg 1mg 10 mcg's

I started I think at 20 units and it took me 4.5+ years to max it out at a full syringe, 100 units. After some time on 100 units, erection quality and duration lessened. I would definitely stipulate that "erection quality" is of course highly subjective...likewise, "duration" desired. I asked and expected and demanded a hell of a lot from my dick, but obviously a highly individual thing. I wanted rock hard and 90-120 minutes was my expectation and goal. When that would wane, I'd get antsy. So at that point where 100 units of that starter mix 5 lessened in effect I moved up to mix #8, where the phentolamine and prostaglandin were both doubled:

mix #8: 30mg 2mg 20 mcg's

However, the new dosing recommendations I received at the time made no sense whatever. The pharmacy recommended I start the new mix #8 at 30 units. But the simple math did not compute and needs scrutiny I think for anyone changing doses.

They doubled the relative potency of the prostaglandin, for example, but then recommended a new dose which was (by volume) to start at less than 1/3 of the prior dose. To have just remained exactly even, at the same relative total dose delivered per injection, would have meant starting me at 50 units of the new mix #8 (doubled potency mix) in comparison to the 100 units I had been taking of the prior half-strength mix #5. When I called this pretty basic math conflict out, I sort of got blank stares. This was followed by a prompt parting of the ways between myself and that particular pharmacy. I went and found one where the founder was one of the pioneers of Trimix coming to market. Entirely different (better) experience going forward.

For what it's worth, here were the other standard mixes my pharmacy produced:

mix #9: 30mg 4mg 40 mcg's
mix #13: 30mg 6mg 60 mcg's
mix #16: 30mg 6mg 100 mcg's

For whatever it may be worth. I guess the main message simply being that you need good expertise from your doc and your pharmacy, but you've absolutely always got to check it all for yourself, your body, your partner, your goals as a couple, and just be assertive and fine tune things proactively.
54 yrs. Blessed with highly sexual 52 yr old wife. Pills 10 years, then 9 yrs Trimix. 28 cm Titan Touch XL 2019, Laurence Levine, Rush Univ Med Ctr, Chicago. Implant = nonstop fun. Hypogonadal, so also 10+ years testosterone replacement.

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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby Ishv300 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:29 pm

Great advice thank you so much! Honestly I’m pretty happy with the 30/1/10. Prior to last time using it I got the best result ever at 24 units. I think my technique is improved minus one mishap from my last injection. Just like you I want it all duration and firmness. The specific occasion I’m talking about I had very close to 100% firmness at time it did peak at max for a few minutes. The duration was also pretty insane. I had almost 4 hours. I was actually starting to get scared and almost took a Sudafed.

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Re: Trimix 30/1/10 ---> Trimix 30/1/20

Postby Leebert » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:22 pm

I use 30/1/10 and was told it was the 2nd one from 30/.05/10. So that makes 30/1/20 the third I would think.
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