injecting first time by myself
Re: injecting first time by myself
I went up from 20 units to 30, I would guess thats as close to a 100% erection as can be expected, especially the minutes I put a band around it. But, it was erect for hours and hours, I was about to go to the hospital, it just hurt at that point. I took likely 10 sudafed throughout the duration. I took some only 2 hours after injecting to start the process, and more, and then more when it wouldnt subside. I cant make up my mind if it was in a dangerous state later, or if it was just hurting from such an erection earlier. I dont know if I m going to like injecting, simply to much unknowns and its stressful, but I m going to use it till I can afford an implant. Simply put I m not going through the process of meds and injections till I m out of options, I m not going through years of unknowns and unhealthy processes of putting meds with side effects into my system, the discomfort, and as much as I enjoy having an erection from the meds, I simply dont care for one for hours and hours. I can t think of any reason whatsoever to go through this type of situation as a penis becomes less and less effective naturally, when I could put a system in place that I simply use on demand and deflate afterwards from the start. I m going to see if I can use edex from the va for the time being if I m going to inject till I can afford an implant. I appreciate all the comments and will still post as I m on going with injections. Anyhow, this was an erection that would have made for exceptional sex, it simply lasted way to long.
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I thought I would comment that I do realize I take risks with some of the things I do, waiting and waiting for the erection to subside, taking so many sudafeds or asprins, ect, but I have enough going on in my body, from the army, and my mind that I really dont care a lot of the time. I was so angry after hours that I finally went to sleep, when it was almost morning out, the only time I can start to go to sleep anyhow, that I said if I wake upo and my penis is gone fk it I dont care what else can life do to me I feel sometimes. ptsd and depression really suck. I think of suicide a lot anyhow, though I wouldnt do it, but my state of mind is still that shaky and in a lot of moments or hours I just dont give a f!
I thought of another ?, I bought sudafed pe, are there other types, or a specific type of sudafed, or is sudafed sudafed. I m thinking perhaps it isnt because this doesnt seem to have any effect on lessening an erection. The only thing that seems to is hours of time.
I thought of another ?, I bought sudafed pe, are there other types, or a specific type of sudafed, or is sudafed sudafed. I m thinking perhaps it isnt because this doesnt seem to have any effect on lessening an erection. The only thing that seems to is hours of time.
Re: injecting first time by myself
Jumping from 20 units to 30 units is a 50% increase in dosage. That's a lot of oomph and quite a shock for a pecker that may not have had a good workout in a while. Try going back to 20 units, but adding mental and manual stimulation. Specifically, watch a romantic movie or a porn video or whatever may float your boat. At the same time, stroke that puppy (using lube!) for all it's worth. I predict the multi-faceted stimulation combined with the trimix will give you an erection to write poetry about. Hopefully it will also be one that begins to diminish after an hour or two of heavy use. Now these recommendations assume you're home alone. Substitute (or add!!) wife or girl friend (or boy friend) for either or both of the stimulations and see what happens. The chemicals work--as you have learned--but they work best when combined with good old fashioned sexual play. Until you learn just how the trimix works with your body, the sexual play needs to be focused on you, not on a partner.
Don't give up on the happy juice. It works too well for too many. And for goodness sakes, don't give up on your most important body part. Success awaits! Best wishes for hard times.
Greg
Don't give up on the happy juice. It works too well for too many. And for goodness sakes, don't give up on your most important body part. Success awaits! Best wishes for hard times.
Greg
Born 1948, wed 1969. BPH & Type II Diabetes at age 35. TURP-2002; ED even before that--diabetes. Cardiac valve surgery: 2007 & 2019. Poor results with pills. Started trimix injections in Nov, 2010. Great results from the very beginning.
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Oifs,
That is kind of stressing I am sure that your Big E goes on for so long. In the beginning I think my shots lasted quite a bit longer than they do now, but maybe I was in better shape a year ago -- been slacking off my Cardio in the last 6 months which might have been a factor.
On Trimix vs Edex you might be right to go back to the VA and try that. Edex is pure PGE-1 and it is metabolized easier/quicker by the body since PGE-1 is the naturally occuring substance in the body and it knows how to deal with it whereas Papaverine and Phentolamine are artificial substances that persist longer. That is one reason why some doctors prefer straight PGE-1 solution vs Trimix -- lesser chance of priapism.
How much will Edex cost thru the VA? It is very expensive retail cost. Another option would be to stick with your private doc but ask for "trimix' without the Pap and Phent -- just plain old PGE-1 (maybe 20 or 40mcg or even 50mcg/ml). That might give you the kick you need without the superlong erection times.
Just keep on trying ...
J
That is kind of stressing I am sure that your Big E goes on for so long. In the beginning I think my shots lasted quite a bit longer than they do now, but maybe I was in better shape a year ago -- been slacking off my Cardio in the last 6 months which might have been a factor.
On Trimix vs Edex you might be right to go back to the VA and try that. Edex is pure PGE-1 and it is metabolized easier/quicker by the body since PGE-1 is the naturally occuring substance in the body and it knows how to deal with it whereas Papaverine and Phentolamine are artificial substances that persist longer. That is one reason why some doctors prefer straight PGE-1 solution vs Trimix -- lesser chance of priapism.
How much will Edex cost thru the VA? It is very expensive retail cost. Another option would be to stick with your private doc but ask for "trimix' without the Pap and Phent -- just plain old PGE-1 (maybe 20 or 40mcg or even 50mcg/ml). That might give you the kick you need without the superlong erection times.
Just keep on trying ...
J
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Do you experience discomfort throughout erections, or at least after they ve lasted the longest but before it s reduces to softness? I had read that it is better for that reason, certain that s a factor at this point, I m not certain how much it would cost at the va though but the 4 viagra pills have been 8 $s so Im guessing it wouldnt be much. Edex doesnt have to be refrigerated either does it?
For the record, although I m 46, I have a lot of natural endurance and have run basically most of my life and i still have a high level of fitness, not just for my age but for any age really. Perhaps something about that makes a difference in how long its effective in your system. It might be something to post about to see if level of fitness does reduce or extend the time these medications are effective.
For the record, although I m 46, I have a lot of natural endurance and have run basically most of my life and i still have a high level of fitness, not just for my age but for any age really. Perhaps something about that makes a difference in how long its effective in your system. It might be something to post about to see if level of fitness does reduce or extend the time these medications are effective.
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oifs,
How much ache? Not all that much. If you get a 100%-er part of the ache is the stretching going on, although PGE-1 is also a known irritant to nerves and there's LOTs of nerves in the penis (meant for pleaure sensations of course) that can get stressed out and produce some ache or pain instead. If it was enough injection that it was going to last for more than 2 or 3 hours then I would ache more at first (and might be a 110%-er for a while!!).
Yes it might be level of fitness that causes things to go on for hours even if you don't want it to. Unfitness in the form of hardening of arteries and/or HBP (yeah it can happen down there too) shows up as ED first and possibly as a finicky reaction to Trimix too since the blood flow might be restricted. But also like Greg said, if you have a warm place to put the erection and get a good workout it might not last quite so long. A little of both ways really .. the stimulation makes it even harder but the exertion and release helps put er down later. But I see your situation where you want to know if it is going to work reliably well before you bring in the gals. Well it might work Better when you do. Here's hoping.
j
How much ache? Not all that much. If you get a 100%-er part of the ache is the stretching going on, although PGE-1 is also a known irritant to nerves and there's LOTs of nerves in the penis (meant for pleaure sensations of course) that can get stressed out and produce some ache or pain instead. If it was enough injection that it was going to last for more than 2 or 3 hours then I would ache more at first (and might be a 110%-er for a while!!).
Yes it might be level of fitness that causes things to go on for hours even if you don't want it to. Unfitness in the form of hardening of arteries and/or HBP (yeah it can happen down there too) shows up as ED first and possibly as a finicky reaction to Trimix too since the blood flow might be restricted. But also like Greg said, if you have a warm place to put the erection and get a good workout it might not last quite so long. A little of both ways really .. the stimulation makes it even harder but the exertion and release helps put er down later. But I see your situation where you want to know if it is going to work reliably well before you bring in the gals. Well it might work Better when you do. Here's hoping.
j
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Re: injecting first time by myself
oifsps wrote:I bought sudafed pe, are there other types, or a specific type of sudafed, or is sudafed sudafed.
Sudafed PE is your problem, since it's phenylephrine and not the "real" Sudafed. You should be using classic Sudafed which is Pseudoephedrine, a totally different compound.
Not sure about your state. Here in TN the law for the past few years requires that Pseudoephedrine (including Sudafed) must be dispensed by the pharmacist, who will ask to see your DL and record your purchase. No Rx required, but controlled since it's a precurser in crystal meth production. There are many other types of Sudafed on the shelf here, but they are all the wrong kind for a Trimix antidote, i.e. they have the wrong active ingredient, phenylephrine.
But even with the correct Sudafed on hand, careful about trying a 50% dose increase since oral Sudafed my not work, leaving antidote injections or blood removal in the ER as your only option.
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Another thought I had, if, in a situation you were really concerned about such a lasting erection and for some reason you couldnt go to the er, could you in theory slice your penis yourself, painful for certain, but releasing some blood? It seems you would release enough to at least ease a lot of the pressure. I thought of this as an option.
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The discomfort is more from it being such a lasting erection it seems. There isnt much discomfort in the first hours. It feels sensitive in an odd sort of way though throughout. It feels sort of delicate. Its not as sensitive in a pleasurable way as it used to be for certain.
I appreciate the comments about the sudafed to, Im in Va at the time. So its a medication behind the counter I simply have to ask for?
I appreciate the comments about the sudafed to, Im in Va at the time. So its a medication behind the counter I simply have to ask for?
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Sudafed in VA:
3. Effective September 30, 2006, when any substance containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine is provided or sold:
a. The product shall only be displayed for sale behind a store counter that is not accessible to consumers, or in a locked case that requires assistance by a store employee for customer access;
b. Any person purchasing, receiving, or otherwise acquiring any such substance shall, prior to taking possession, present photo identification issued by a government or an educational institution;
c. The seller shall maintain a written or electronic log with the purchaser's name and address, product name, quantity sold, and the date and time of the transaction;
d. The purchaser shall enter into the log his name and address, the time and date of the sale, and sign the record;
e. The purchaser shall sign the record acknowledging an understanding of the applicable sales limit and that entering false statements or misrepresentations in the log may subject the purchaser to criminal penalties under § 1001 of Title 18 of the United States Code; and
f. The sale of a single package to an individual shall not require entry in the log provided it is an isolated sale and the package contains not more than 60 milligrams of pseudoephedrine.
3. Effective September 30, 2006, when any substance containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine is provided or sold:
a. The product shall only be displayed for sale behind a store counter that is not accessible to consumers, or in a locked case that requires assistance by a store employee for customer access;
b. Any person purchasing, receiving, or otherwise acquiring any such substance shall, prior to taking possession, present photo identification issued by a government or an educational institution;
c. The seller shall maintain a written or electronic log with the purchaser's name and address, product name, quantity sold, and the date and time of the transaction;
d. The purchaser shall enter into the log his name and address, the time and date of the sale, and sign the record;
e. The purchaser shall sign the record acknowledging an understanding of the applicable sales limit and that entering false statements or misrepresentations in the log may subject the purchaser to criminal penalties under § 1001 of Title 18 of the United States Code; and
f. The sale of a single package to an individual shall not require entry in the log provided it is an isolated sale and the package contains not more than 60 milligrams of pseudoephedrine.
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