One side more difficult than the other?

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RJ_in_Pa
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One side more difficult than the other?

Postby RJ_in_Pa » Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:03 pm

Guys,

I need your help.

I have attempted 9 injections. Only 4 on the left side, 3 of those have been a disaster. After the first 2 misses of the left side, I started to use the pre-pump and I hit a good one. Today’s on the left side was another miss. I got the needle in and when I attempted to depress the plunger, I experienced a lot of pain. With the shakiest of hands, I continued to depressed the plunger. Absolutely nothing happened! A total miss. All 5 on the right side have been successful and fruitful. After all the misses on the left, I continued to have pain and extreme tenderness on the left side.

Has anyone else had a side that just doesn’t work?

I’m about ready to just quit trying on the left side and take my chances with the scaring on the right side. I should also say that something seems different on the left side, like a nerve or tendon in the area where I should place the injection. I know this is something I should show my doctor, but I won’t see him again for another 2 months.

Thanks
RJ
64, Radical Prostatectomy in 2023, pills did nothing. Currently on Trimix with great success.

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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby bldoink » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:37 am

RJ_in_Pa wrote:Guys,

I need your help.

...Today’s on the left side was another miss. I got the needle in and when I attempted to depress the plunger, I experienced a lot of pain. With the shakiest of hands, I continued to depressed the plunger. Absolutely nothing happened! A total miss. All 5 on the right side have been successful and fruitful. After all the misses on the left, I continued to have pain and extreme tenderness on the left side.

Has anyone else had a side that just doesn’t work?

I’m about ready to just quit trying on the left side and take my chances with the scaring on the right side....


You clearly missed on the left. For many guys it is more difficult injecting the non-dominate side. If you get pain or much resistance when you're depressing the plunger you are NOT in the correct spot. Try shallower or deeper but adjust the depth until there is little rresistance and little or no pain when depressing the plunger. Never force the plunger against resistance or pain. You continued to have lasting pain after the missed left side injections because you injected your meds into the wrong tissues.
Good luck.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby sogwap » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:10 am

Quick question. When you fill the syringe, do you place the orange cap back over the syringe before injecting?

The reason I ask is I used to:
Go to the refrigerator and get the Trimix vial.
Remove the orange cap from the syringe,
Fill the syringe, then place the orange cap back over the needle.
Go to the bathroom. Prepare for the injection.
Remove the orange cap, Do the injection.

I found that placing the orange cap over the needle and removing it when injecting. Often dulled the needle. Making it more difficult to insert the needle.
I have since modified my routine by not placing the orange cap over the needle after filling it with Trimix.
I have to be extra careful not to touch the needle or otherwise bring it into contact with anything other than my penis before injecting.
Since modifying my routine. I found it much easier to insert the needle into the penis. with no resistance.
Age: 68. Struggled with ED/PE for years.
Used Viagra for 10+ years with mixed success.
In May 2022 started using Trimix with very good results.
Feb 2023 developed PD
2023 still in treatment for PD, and still using Trimix with very good results

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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby Sean762 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:09 pm

I'd also recommend an eye loop magnifier to ensure the end of the needle doesn't have a burr or barb. It's apparently a lot more common on mass produced needles/syringes than you'd think.

RJ_in_Pa
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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby RJ_in_Pa » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:43 pm

Yes, I do replace the orange cap and wondered if i corrupted the sharpness of the needle by doing so.

Good advice guys! Thanks.
64, Radical Prostatectomy in 2023, pills did nothing. Currently on Trimix with great success.

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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby still_crazy » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:58 pm

I'm up to over 30 injections now, with 2 misses. They were both on the left side. I have a lot of vein on that side and with one of the misses I actually hit the vein and got a hematoma. I don't inject more than a few times a month, and given so few, I just stick with the right side most of the time. If I pre-pump with the VED I can find more usable area on the left side. Yeah, if when you go to press the plunger and it doesn't wanna go, don't force it. Instead re-adjust the position usually in or out, or just pull it out and go for another site (not something we like to do, but sometimes ya gotta). I'm slowly learning too.
Age 66. RALP Jan-2023. Non-nerve sparing.
VED exercise most days, Trimix T-106 (30-1-25), ~20 units.
Bending trauma around age 50, resulting in mild Peyronies.

RJ_in_Pa
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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby RJ_in_Pa » Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:47 pm

Thanks Craz,

I have to believe I have something different on the left side, nerve, veins, or something.

I’m going to get an auto-injector and my wife is going to press the plunger. Hopefully, I/we will get it right.

RJ
64, Radical Prostatectomy in 2023, pills did nothing. Currently on Trimix with great success.

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Re: One side more difficult than the other?

Postby RJ_in_Pa » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:31 am

Update

I got an auto-injector. After a successful attempt on right side, I tried the left side again and had another miss. So, I went back to right side and had 4 successful attempts.

Looking back, with all my misses on left side, I felt pain, but I was so anxious to get the meds in, I ignored the pain and pushed in the plunger.

Reading many posts related to misses and getting some good advice through “PM’s”, yesterday I decided to try the left side again and I planned to abort the attempt if I felt ANY pain. I pumped up to 3/4 erect, picked a target on the left side, hit trigger on the injector, felt no pain, pressed the plunger and everything worked as desired.

Long story short - if you feel pain during the injection attempt (like many have noted in prior posts), it will likely be a miss. As a “Newbie” to injecting, it takes a lot courage to abort the injection and try a different target or angle if you pain, but you might as well try if it’s going to end up in a miss anyway.

Each injection now seems to get easier and less stressful than the one before.

Thanks to all for the advice and support. Greatly appreciated!

RJ
64, Radical Prostatectomy in 2023, pills did nothing. Currently on Trimix with great success.


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