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Re: Hello, soon will be my first, 3rd injection tonight!
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Postby Ranger100 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:29 pm
Hello All,
The update 2 nights in a row I've reached my doctor limit. Last I night injected 0.5 with the 1/2 inch needle. response below from last night.
Tonight on the other side using the 5/16th needle 0.5 but not much of a change from last night. Still not usable.... I a little tired of sticking w/o results yet LOL!
Any thoughts?
Thanks for your help!
Ranger100
So I guess I have to get in touch with the Doctor and see where next to go to. Just not hard enough to use yet.
1. Shot #3 tonight of 0.40 a little larger.
2. The effects are more evenly distributed through my whole dick.
3. Not hard enough to use yet.
4. It gets biggest in 30 minutes and starts to soften.
5. The needle gets easier to do and no shaking tonight!
6. My wife is very understanding and patient and every night we watch and wonder is this going to do it.
Info on what I'm using:
The prescription is for standard "Trimix" (PPP) 5.88mcg/18/0.6/ml in AQ vehicle injection
Prostagland E1 5.88 mc/ml
Paperaveine HC1 18 mg/ml
Phentolamine Mesylate 0.6 mg/ml
So another shot of 0.5 Monday night and see what happens. It will be great when it does work!
Thanks again, I guess I'll just have to keep trying. It would be nice to have the needle stick produce desired results....
So the question tonight is "how many times did you guys inject before finding the right dose"?
Take care and PS: Thanks for the comments and support!
Ranger100
Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
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Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
Your Trimix forumula is very different than the ones I have used. I started with papaverine, 30 mg/ml, phentolamine, 10 mg/ml and PGE-1, 10 microgram/ ml. I am now up to 30-5-50. The 30 mg/ml of papaverine is the most that a solution will hold. While I got usable erections with 30 units of the weaker mix (30 units = 0.3 mi), I do much better with 10 to 15 units of the stronger. I wonder why your doctor uses such a different level of the various components. It might be worthwhile asking the doctor.
71 years old in 2018; married 49 years. ED since 2001. PD5 inhibitors (Viagra, etc.) worked with increasing dosages until side effects got too bad by 2017. Now using Trimix injections. Delayed ejaculation has been a continuing problem since 2012.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
At 18 - 0.6 - 6, that is a VERY weak mix. Most start out at a standard 30-1-20 and work up from 0.1 ml to find a theraputic dose. Plus you are using a lot more volume which can get expensive. Offhand 0.6 ml is a lot to inject and if you get up there, I'd definitely ask for a stronger mix to get the volume down. DO the math on the active ingredient and start with the stronger mix where you left off with the ineffective weaker mix. I am now using 0.2 ml of a 30-2-100 mix (only 20 mcg of PGE with is half the 40 mcg Caverject I was formerly using).
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
Stew52 wrote:At 18 - 0.6 - 6, that is a VERY weak mix. Most start out at a standard 30-1-20 and work up from 0.1 ml to find a theraputic dose. Plus you are using a lot more volume which can get expensive. Offhand 0.6 ml is a lot to inject and if you get up there, I'd definitely ask for a stronger mix to get the volume down. DO the math on the active ingredient and start with the stronger mix where you left off with the ineffective weaker mix. I am now using 0.2 ml of a 30-2-100 mix (only 20 mcg of PGE with is half the 40 mcg Caverject I was formerly using).
Thank you Guys for these responses,
I was thinking also it's a weak mix and a lot to inject, and the slow response. It inflates and then deflates within 20 minutes. Stays a little pumped up for the rest of the evening till the morning.
I just sent the doctor a message and will let you know what's next. There is a lot left in the vial, thinking all together I used on different days .2, .3, .4, ,5, .5 total out of 5ml.
Thanks for all your comments!
Ranger100
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
If you stopped a 18 - 0.6 - 6 at 0.5ml, that is 0.5 x 18 = 9 mg papavarine, 0.5 x 0.6 = 0.3 mg phentolomine, and 0.5 x 6 pge = 3 mcg PGE.
To get that from a standard starter "30-1-20" mix would take 0.3 ml: 0.3 x 30 = 9 mg papavarine, 0.3 x 1.0 = 0.3 mg phentolomine, 0.3 x 20 = 6 mcg PGE (which twice the PGE dose which is the most active ingredient). I'd only get 2.5-5.0 ml and experiment working up from 0.30 ml or so or per your doctor's instructions. If that gets to 0.5+ ml you need a stronger mix yet.
To get that from a standard starter "30-1-20" mix would take 0.3 ml: 0.3 x 30 = 9 mg papavarine, 0.3 x 1.0 = 0.3 mg phentolomine, 0.3 x 20 = 6 mcg PGE (which twice the PGE dose which is the most active ingredient). I'd only get 2.5-5.0 ml and experiment working up from 0.30 ml or so or per your doctor's instructions. If that gets to 0.5+ ml you need a stronger mix yet.
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
Patience. You'll get there. Second, in my opinion there is no "standard" mix because Trimix affects everybody differently. I also started with a watery "standard" mix and am now on a much, much stronger formula.
When I had my initial formula I kept increasing the number of units until I was injecting a full syringe and more from a second syringe. My penis was like,"that's all you got?"
I eventually went back to my doctor -- and again -- and again -- until we got it right. Your experience sounds like mind. My advice is that you keep injecting regularly without the pressure of needing to have sex with your partner that night. Keep increasing in increments until you're at 50-75 units injected. If you're still not seeing any results it's time to ask your doctor to step up your formula considerably.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. You should always carefully follow your physician's instructions for increasing your dosage.
The important thing is to have patience and stay with it. How long does it take? Well, some guys get it right on the very first day, others of us need more time. The fastest way to get there is keep injecting regularly. Practice, practice, practice -- three or four days a week. Keep detailed notes. If you're not seeing improved results make an appointment with your doctor for a new formula.
How fast you achieve success will be determined by how often you practice and how agressive you are in working with your doctor for the right formula. The mistake I made was taking too many tiny baby steps in formula increase each time I visisted with my urologist. If your current batch continues not to work, then emphasize with your doctor that you want a significant increase in strength on your next visit. That will help you save some time, and you could be experiencing complete success within a month or so.
Good luck!
When I had my initial formula I kept increasing the number of units until I was injecting a full syringe and more from a second syringe. My penis was like,"that's all you got?"
I eventually went back to my doctor -- and again -- and again -- until we got it right. Your experience sounds like mind. My advice is that you keep injecting regularly without the pressure of needing to have sex with your partner that night. Keep increasing in increments until you're at 50-75 units injected. If you're still not seeing any results it's time to ask your doctor to step up your formula considerably.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. You should always carefully follow your physician's instructions for increasing your dosage.
The important thing is to have patience and stay with it. How long does it take? Well, some guys get it right on the very first day, others of us need more time. The fastest way to get there is keep injecting regularly. Practice, practice, practice -- three or four days a week. Keep detailed notes. If you're not seeing improved results make an appointment with your doctor for a new formula.
How fast you achieve success will be determined by how often you practice and how agressive you are in working with your doctor for the right formula. The mistake I made was taking too many tiny baby steps in formula increase each time I visisted with my urologist. If your current batch continues not to work, then emphasize with your doctor that you want a significant increase in strength on your next visit. That will help you save some time, and you could be experiencing complete success within a month or so.
Good luck!
I've tried everything -- pills, injections pumps -- and now I am at the final frontier.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
What cigar said sounded like very good advice. The only addition I'll make is to try just calling your doctor for a script adjustment. There are many doctors that won't make you come in for a visit for every script adjustment everything else being equal.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
Cigar56 wrote:Patience. You'll get there. Second, in my opinion there is no "standard" mix because Trimix affects everybody differently. I also started with a watery "standard" mix and am now on a much, much stronger formula.
When I had my initial formula I kept increasing the number of units until I was injecting a full syringe and more from a second syringe. My penis was like,"that's all you got?"
I eventually went back to my doctor -- and again -- and again -- until we got it right. Your experience sounds like mind. My advice is that you keep injecting regularly without the pressure of needing to have sex with your partner that night. Keep increasing in increments until you're at 50-75 units injected. If you're still not seeing any results it's time to ask your doctor to step up your formula considerably.
Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. You should always carefully follow your physician's instructions for increasing your dosage.
The important thing is to have patience and stay with it. How long does it take? Well, some guys get it right on the very first day, others of us need more time. The fastest way to get there is keep injecting regularly. Practice, practice, practice -- three or four days a week. Keep detailed notes. If you're not seeing improved results make an appointment with your doctor for a new formula.
How fast you achieve success will be determined by how often you practice and how agressive you are in working with your doctor for the right formula. The mistake I made was taking too many tiny baby steps in formula increase each time I visisted with my urologist. If your current batch continues not to work, then emphasize with your doctor that you want a significant increase in strength on your next visit. That will help you save some time, and you could be experiencing complete success within a month or so.
Good luck!
Thank you Guy,
This response was very helpful!
Tonight I did .7 never felt the needle it got a little fuller in 20 minutes but by 30 it starts to fade....
One thing I noticed/remembered in the old days during my erections the head was fully engorged not there yet...
I sent my doctor a message last Wednesday but haven't heard back from him yet. He is one of the Top urology surgeons at Hershey Medical and a great guy. I expect I will hear back from him this week. Until then I'll just keep increasing .1 next shot is ,8 of my weak mix.
The guys that get it the first try should be very thankful. One thing it's been good getting use to doing the injections. Tonight I used the 1/2" needle and pulled it out slightly.
My dear wife is a very kind lady asking how are we doing tonight? Sorry doll we arn't there yet...
Maybe there is another bright side that it's slowly getting bigger and hopefully more back to the normal state
One thing I notice it seems to be getting more sensitive to the touch -hum...I think that's a good sign.
So the rest of the night my friend down there will be a little bigger than normal! Not hard but resting comfortably waiting for the next shot.
I'll keep you posted on how things go.
Thanks again all of you,
Ranger100
Looking for the WOAH baby we are in the game now....! That must be a rather amazing feeling I'm thinking....
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 6
Once you get the right dose for the basic job, however you and wifey define that, you can then fiddle with mix and dose and other variables for alternate scenarios. My sweet wifey doesn't always want a knock down drag out session that leaves her wasted the rest of the day (the hour +/- session). Sometimes just a quicker 20 min "tune up" to mellow out but not lay waste to the day. She is very orgasmic and a long session leaves her whacked. Adjusting mix and dose can do that, at least for me. I have found that modest pumping has increased "tone" and some size, especially girth, and the ability to manage blood. Blood oxygen enhancing supplements can help. Some use a pill for a base and add a shot. I've tried that with success. Some drugs (Rx and OTC) are boner killers - know them. With all of this, I now have a lot more night wood and morning wood. Arousel and a natural but weak boner is nearing a hair trigger again. It's like being a teenager again, kinda annoying actually, but a sign of improved penile health. My Uro says I will never have a 18 y/o dick again, so hard a cat can't scratch it, but the skill to really pleasure someone has improved massively now and is a net positive. Enjoy your "research" and experimenting. It's taken me 1 year 8 months to get back to this point from nothing. Be thoughtful and patient. Rock her world now.
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Hello All first timer I'm now on injection # 9 and at .85
Stew52 wrote:Once you get the right dose for the basic job, however you and wifey define that, you can then fiddle with mix and dose and other variables for alternate scenarios. My sweet wifey doesn't always want a knock down drag out session that leaves her wasted the rest of the day (the hour +/- session). Sometimes just a quicker 20 min "tune up" to mellow out but not lay waste to the day. She is very orgasmic and a long session leaves her whacked. Adjusting mix and dose can do that, at least for me. I have found that modest pumping has increased "tone" and some size, especially girth, and the ability to manage blood. Blood oxygen enhancing supplements can help. Some use a pill for a base and add a shot. I've tried that with success. Some drugs (Rx and OTC) are boner killers - know them. With all of this, I now have a lot more night wood and morning wood. Arousel and a natural but weak boner is nearing a hair trigger again. It's like being a teenager again, kinda annoying actually, but a sign of improved penile health. My Uro says I will never have a 18 y/o dick again, so hard a cat can't scratch it, but the skill to really pleasure someone has improved massively now and is a net positive. Enjoy your "research" and experimenting. It's taken me 1 year 8 months to get back to this point from nothing. Be thoughtful and patient. Rock her world now.
Hello ALL,
I'm on injection #9 now
Tonight I was going to do .8 and forgot the correct amount and did .7 Then I thought here goes.. did another .15 in the other side. I was not giving up and decided so did another .15 in the other side it did increase a bit but not there yet.
The gains go down in about 35 minutes. Tonight my wife asked me if I ever imagined I'd be doing injections in my dick - lol - no I never did!
SO when it's the right amount do you know beyond a doubt that you are there yet? Every time I do it it gets bigger but I don't feel comfortable trying to use it.
Next will be .9 but I would only get 5 shots out of a bottle if it works at 1,0 that seems like a lot of this weak mixture and expensive...
Thanks Guys for all of your comments and suggestions!
Ranger100
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