FrankTalk.org

Hi all -- I (53M) have been on TRT for a year now, and the only thing that hasn't improved has been my ED. Essentially, I get morning wood, I can "sorta" have sex in the morning, but it's hit or miss on whether or not I'll be able to stay hard enough long enough to orgasm. Near nighttime, forget it. My sex drive just isn't there (and hasn't improved with TRT, but that's another topic).

Today, I tried TriMix for the first time. I was sent a "starter kit" that allowed me to try a dosage and we will go from there. The protocol was for .1ml today. I did that, and didn't feel a thing (so that was a positive). I then was hard as a rock within 15 mins. Wife was pleased, we had great sex. Then, because it was still here, we went for it again.

Then it stuck around for 3 hours. Then almost 4 before I called it and injected the "antidote." Gone in 20 mins. No pain with that either.

So, obviously, we are going to need to throttle back to some other number. Something that I've noticed is that my clinic charges for "doses" not a set bottle, which I find kind of sketchy. Is that normal?

I'm going to try another dose for my second one, I'll try .05 instead and see if that's more manageable. I would like, optimally, 1.5 hours of fun and then for it to go away without a second injection. Should I try lower?

Yes, you definitely need to do a lower dose. Yup don't have a signature, so I'm assuming you are on the first basic tri mix starter - 30/1/10. I'm not a doctor but, if your that sensitive to tri mix you might want to drop down to bi mix. If you're going to inject again with tri mix, I would drop farther down on your dose like a couple of units ( say 3 units) and try that! It's best to ere on the side of caution than go thru priapism. Hope this helps.

As Lebert said, drop your dose way down and then work back up. I started at 20 units which gave me a rock hard erection that lasted for about 3 hours but it also game me a bothersom ache in my cock. I played with the dose, but did not go over 20 units. I ended up with this: 15 units will give me a good 2.5 hours but still have the ache. 10 units will give me 1.5 to 2 hours with a lot less ache. 5 units will give me 45 minutes to 1 hour, long enough for a couple rounds of intercourse or lots of solo time. I have also had a few "misses" where I inject and don't get a good boner, maybe 50%. I will load a second needle and inject 5 units on the other side of my cock from the first injection. I will not go over 20 units total. This usually gets the job done in about 10 minutes.

Good Luck and welcome to a great website for guys like us.

The Duck.

If you want to avoid a second injection to get a Trimix induced boner to go away take 5-6 doses of Sudafed max. It'll make you sleepy, but after a round of marathon sex you might want to sleep anyway.

Leebert wrote:Yes, you definitely need to do a lower dose. Yup don't have a signature, so I'm assuming you are on the first basic tri mix starter - 30/1/10. I'm not a doctor but, if your that sensitive to tri mix you might want to drop down to bi mix. If you're going to inject again with tri mix, I would drop farther down on your dose like a couple of units ( say 3 units) and try that! It's best to ere on the side of caution than go thru priapism. Hope this helps.

My mix is Alprostadil: 20, Papaverine 7.5, Phentolamine .25

I'm still wondering if I'm going to be ripped off if they are going to charge me per "dose" rather than a set amount of liquid. Is that normal? It's like $300 for 12 "doses" which seems expensive if my dose ends up being 2 or 3 units.

If you're drawing out of a vial you don't have to tell they how many session you get out of a vial. My script says to inject 25 units (.25ml). Currently I inject 14 units (.14ml) for couples play and 7 units (.07ml) for solo. You're paying a lot for your juice. That works out to be cheap in my book at $120 for 10ml.

bldoink wrote:If you're drawing out of a vial you don't have to tell they how many session you get out of a vial. My script says to inject 25 units (.25ml). Currently I inject 14 units (.14ml) for couples play and 7 units (.07ml) for solo. You're paying a lot for your juice. That works out to be cheap in my book at $120 for 10ml.

My fear is that they set the amount they give you based on your reaction. I'll probably just have to find a doctor to cut me a scrip and then go get the meds elsewhere if the clinic is going to set my price based on "dose" and then I pay the same for 4 units per shot that someone is paying for 12 units per shot. I don't know for sure, but given the language on the site, it sure sounds like I'm being charged per dose, not per amount.

sirgawain wrote:My fear is that they set the amount they give you based on your reaction. I'll probably just have to find a doctor to cut me a scrip and then go get the meds elsewhere if the clinic is going to set my price based on "dose" and then I pay the same for 4 units per shot that someone is paying for 12 units per shot. I don't know for sure, but given the language on the site, it sure sounds like I'm being charged per dose, not per amount.

I guess I'm missing something. Are they issuing the meds in pre-loaded syringes? If not, then don't tell them you're dropping to a lower dose. Tell them you need the .1ml (10 units) per dose. Or even 20 units per dose. Then just draw up and inject 4 or 5 units or whatever is working.

However, from what you're saying it would be best to find a better doctor and pharmacy. If you can, find a good urologist to write a script. Otherwise, when you figure out how much of whatever mix works for you then try asking your regular doctor PCP or GP or whatever and explaining what you need and that you can't afford it from that provider and ask him/her to write you a generic script so you can take it to the pharmacy of your choice. That's essentially what I did but you have to sound like you know what you're talking about.

Where are you??

tacking on here...

I got my first script yesterday, but my "teaching appt" isn't for 2 months.
Mix: Alprostadil 10, Papaverine 15, Phentolamine 0.5; 20 mL total. Also got 5/16" 31 ga syringes. Total= $95

I'm tempted to try it, but as many have stated here- don't inject until after you teaching appt. I have no instructions on what to try first. My vials say it expires at the end of March; so will the script be preserved or am I wasting a full script sitting in the freezer?

And my Uro said to ignore the antidote shot- just use smaller doses until you find the right one and duration. In his experience, by the time you go to the Er, it's starting to deflate. {HIS opinion- don't torch me...}

If kept frozen your mix will last.

A training session with the doctor is ideal but not everyone has one. I never did and I muddled through. Training would most certainly have been better.

I'm not going to suggest a first trial dose except to say that without medical supervision you should be EXTRA conservative. Try less than you think will work. I'd suggest initially injecting about 2/5 of the distance from the base of your dick. With your dick cross section seen as a clock face inject between 2 to 3 o'clock and 9 to 10 o'clock.

If you haven't yet please read as many of the old threads in the injection section. I have a very amateur injection video I made I can give you a link to if desired.

In the "Worth Reading" list there are links to several versions of injection instructions: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9266

Good luck.


Edited for clarity, I hope.