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Small venting session

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 8:46 pm
by sirgawain
This is a minor vent, so bear with me.

I am finding some level of resentment along with my gratitude about Trimix. I don't understand why my body didn't work with Viagra or Cialis. I don't understand why I get morning wood and yet it won't stay around long enough to finish intercourse. It's frustrating and I wonder if it will ever come back or am I dependent on this miracle drug Trimix?

I love that the Trimix works, but I am bummed that I can only use it one time a day, which really puts a damper on the "all day in bed" that I used to be able to do just a few years ago. I've never been checked for VL so I don't know if that's my issue. I just know I'm relatively young, I work out a lot, not overweight and yet...dick stopped working.

I think it hit me more doing this trip because I had to be strategic about sex.

Again, grateful I have options, just some bit of grieving for how I got here...

There, whining over.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:47 pm
by abhishek26
sirgawain wrote:This is a minor vent, so bear with me.

I am finding some level of resentment along with my gratitude about Trimix. I don't understand why my body didn't work with Viagra or Cialis. I don't understand why I get morning wood and yet it won't stay around long enough to finish intercourse. It's frustrating and I wonder if it will ever come back or am I dependent on this miracle drug Trimix?

I love that the Trimix works, but I am bummed that I can only use it one time a day, which really puts a damper on the "all day in bed" that I used to be able to do just a few years ago. I've never been checked for VL so I don't know if that's my issue. I just know I'm relatively young, I work out a lot, not overweight and yet...dick stopped working.

I think it hit me more doing this trip because I had to be strategic about sex.

Again, grateful I have options, just some bit of grieving for how I got here...

There, whining over.

I’d suggest maybe drinking a bit before injecting to lighten up the mood. Don’t know whether this actually helps as I haven’t started any form of injection treatment yet.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:33 pm
by bldoink
sirgawain wrote:I love that the Trimix works, but I am bummed that I can only use it one time a day, which really puts a damper on the "all day in bed" that I used to be able to do just a few years ago.....
....I think it hit me more doing this trip because I had to be strategic about sex.

Not on a regular basis but on special occasions, like vacations and etc., some members have been known to do two events in one day without any known damage.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:11 am
by Cozpgh
I can relate. I'm about to turn 48 and in the best shape I've ever been in. I was never athletic in high school. Now I run 4 miles every other day. Not ashamed to take my shirt off in public for the first time in my life. But I can't keep an erection all the way through intercourse. It's been a lifelong problem. It was the reason I was a virgin as far as intercourse until college. But 25mg to 50mg of Viagra worked for me beautifully for 18 years. Then stopped working for me reliably when I divorced and started having experiences with other women. My current partner is 17 years younger than me and says I'm the best lover she's ever had despite my up and down erections. She likes playing with others together and I'm a neurotic mess with my ED and have been getting by taking higher and higher doses of the PDE5 inhibitors, even combining max dosages of Cialis with double max doses of Viagra, with some success and practically zero side effects no matter the doses but largely inconsistent results from one time to the next.

Was prescribed the 30/1/10 Trimix without a test injection. Bought the antidote and Sudafed in the event of priapism. Was instructed to start at 10 or 15 units for first injection. Since I take a daily 5mg of Cialis, I opted to start lower. 5 units for first injection. Lost my erection 30 minutes into foreplay and intercourse. Was still able to cum from oral but with a dick in between hard and limp. Upped it to 10 units for the next injection on the opposite side. Was able to go an hour and orgasm. Stayed hard afterwards but went down until she went down on me again. Entered her but lost my erection before the second orgasm however I did make her cum twice so she's not seeing all the trauma I'm experiencing realizing that nothing is working for me and I'm still keyed into my erection or lack thereof during sex. I was hoping to just get an un-relinquishing two hour erection from the injection that helped me make love to her in the non fixated on my erection hardness way I want to.

I realize I've got to play around with dosages and injection sites some more but not having a reliable result with an injection combined with a PDE5 has me wondering how much longer I can let this issue weigh so heavily on me through my life. I'm selling a house that'll net me a $50k return and I'm wondering if I should just go bionic already instead of tinkering around with injection and PDE5 dosages or the process of injecting when I just want to ravage my partner or share a girlfriend of hers with her and feel like a king. She's on board if I choose to go through with the implant but also feels I'm overreacting because she feels we have great sex and I put to much pressure on myself to perform.

Even if up the Trimix dosage and it works wonderfully for me for awhile, I'm always going to be wondering when it's going to fail or how I'm going to sneak away for an injection when things start escalating. It's nerve wrecking. Especially since the tests I've done thus far with the Trimix didn't give me the result I hoped for. Ideally, at 48, I'd like to get another 10 years of great sex with the injections and lower dose PDE5s before getting the implant. But I don't know.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:05 am
by BrokenPiston
Sirgawain, have you tried herbs or supplements? PT-141? Nitric oxide dumping? None of those are be-alls either, but tools in the shed. PT-141 alone gives me pretty amazing morning wood. You can only use it ~ twice / week (if you think daily only on injections sucks).

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:17 am
by AnotherOldMan
...I get morning wood and yet it won't stay around long enough to finish intercourse.


When that happens, have you tried experimenting with cock rings? May take a bit of trial and error.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am
by abhishek26
Cozpgh wrote:I can relate. I'm about to turn 48 and in the best shape I've ever been in. I was never athletic in high school. Now I run 4 miles every other day. Not ashamed to take my shirt off in public for the first time in my life. But I can't keep an erection all the way through intercourse. It's been a lifelong problem. It was the reason I was a virgin as far as intercourse until college. But 25mg to 50mg of Viagra worked for me beautifully for 18 years. Then stopped working for me reliably when I divorced and started having experiences with other women. My current partner is 17 years younger than me and says I'm the best lover she's ever had despite my up and down erections. She likes playing with others together and I'm a neurotic mess with my ED and have been getting by taking higher and higher doses of the PDE5 inhibitors, even combining max dosages of Cialis with double max doses of Viagra, with some success and practically zero side effects no matter the doses but largely inconsistent results from one time to the next.

Was prescribed the 30/1/10 Trimix without a test injection. Bought the antidote and Sudafed in the event of priapism. Was instructed to start at 10 or 15 units for first injection. Since I take a daily 5mg of Cialis, I opted to start lower. 5 units for first injection. Lost my erection 30 minutes into foreplay and intercourse. Was still able to cum from oral but with a dick in between hard and limp. Upped it to 10 units for the next injection on the opposite side. Was able to go an hour and orgasm. Stayed hard afterwards but went down until she went down on me again. Entered her but lost my erection before the second orgasm however I did make her cum twice so she's not seeing all the trauma I'm experiencing realizing that nothing is working for me and I'm still keyed into my erection or lack thereof during sex. I was hoping to just get an un-relinquishing two hour erection from the injection that helped me make love to her in the non fixated on my erection hardness way I want to.

I realize I've got to play around with dosages and injection sites some more but not having a reliable result with an injection combined with a PDE5 has me wondering how much longer I can let this issue weigh so heavily on me through my life. I'm selling a house that'll net me a $50k return and I'm wondering if I should just go bionic already instead of tinkering around with injection and PDE5 dosages or the process of injecting when I just want to ravage my partner or share a girlfriend of hers with her and feel like a king. She's on board if I choose to go through with the implant but also feels I'm overreacting because she feels we have great sex and I put to much pressure on myself to perform.

Even if up the Trimix dosage and it works wonderfully for me for awhile, I'm always going to be wondering when it's going to fail or how I'm going to sneak away for an injection when things start escalating. It's nerve wrecking. Especially since the tests I've done thus far with the Trimix didn't give me the result I hoped for. Ideally, at 48, I'd like to get another 10 years of great sex with the injections and lower dose PDE5s before getting the implant. But I don't know.

did you get a doppler ultrasound to check for a potential minor venous leak?

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:08 am
by Old Guy
Sounds like my experience. I could get morning wood once or twice a week, but as soon as I woke up enough to do anything with it down it went. Tried herbal remedies, nothing. Used a cock ring but it wasn't very satisfying sex for either of us. Viagra was fine for about 2-3 years then it started failing. That was like going through ED again. Then found Trimix and it worked well for about 3 years then it started failing. Quadmix only worked for a couple months.
Last step was implant. Now I/we believe it is the best thing ever. Our sex life is back to pretty normal, no more drugs or injections, just inflate and go!

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 12:47 pm
by bldoink
Cozpgh wrote:......
Was prescribed the 30/1/10 Trimix without a test injection. Bought the antidote and Sudafed in the event of priapism. Was instructed to start at 10 or 15 units for first injection. ...... she's not seeing all the trauma I'm experiencing realizing that nothing is working for me and I'm still keyed into my erection or lack thereof during sex. I was hoping to just get an un-relinquishing two hour erection from the injection that helped me make love to her in the non fixated on my erection hardness way I want to.

I realize I've got to play around with dosages and injection sites some more but not having a reliable result with an injection combined with a PDE5 has me wondering how much longer I can let this issue weigh so heavily on me through my life. I'm selling a house that'll net me a $50k return and I'm wondering if I should just go bionic already ... She's on board ...but also feels I'm overreacting because she feels we have great sex and I put to much pressure on myself to perform.

Even if up the Trimix dosage and it works wonderfully for me for awhile, I'm always going to be wondering when it's going to fail or how I'm going to sneak away for an injection when things start escalating. It's nerve wrecking. Especially since the tests I've done thus far with the Trimix didn't give me the result I hoped for. Ideally, at 48, I'd like to get another 10 years of great sex with the injections and lower dose PDE5s before getting the implant. But I don't know.

Part of your issue seems to be mental for sure. I have no good advice there other than don't do that. If she thinks you're doing a great job then you are .

You seem to be a pretty good candidate for injections. You haven't complained of alprostadil (PGE1) ache so that's good. Based on that I'd suggest you have the alprostadil (PGE1) component of your mix increased substantially. I use 14 units of mono-mix consisting of 80mcg alprostadil per ml, as compared to your 10mcg per ml. However, if you go to 15 units of your current mix, bear in mind 15 units isn't a huge amount, especially with your current mix. If you were on Edex you would likely be injecting a full ml.

I have no idea how long a run you can get from injections. That seems to be all over the place with different guys. I'm at over 10 years now.

If I understand correctly you've only done 2 injections. That's way too few trials to base any kind of judgement on. Yes, you will have to experiment with dosage and mix. Some guys are lucky and find the correct mix and dose quickly while others have to experiment awhile. Try to be patient. I can't help you with singles dating. I've been married for almost 40 years, closer to 50 if I count my first wife :roll:

I also have no idea when/if you should get an implant. Only you and your doctor can decide on that. It seems like you're not in a mental state to be patient and see if injections are for you. I figure you'll rush into an implant within 6 months. Good luck. I hope you find the best path for you whatever it may be.

If you haven't yet it I'd consider trying a silicone novelty/sex shop cock ring around your dick behind the boys. It might give you some of the boost you're looking for.

Re: Small venting session

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:59 pm
by Cozpgh
bldoink wrote:You seem to be a pretty good candidate for injections. You haven't complained of alprostadil (PGE1) ache so that's good. Based on that I'd suggest you have the alprostadil (PGE1) component of your mix increased substantially. I use 14 units of mono-mix consisting of 80mcg alprostadil per ml, as compared to your 10mcg per ml. However, if you go to 15 units of your current mix, bear in mind 15 units isn't a huge amount, especially with your current mix. If you were on Edex you would likely be injecting a full ml.

I have no idea how long a run you can get from injections. That seems to be all over the place with different guys. I'm at over 10 years now.

If I understand correctly you've only done 2 injections. That's way too few trials to base any kind of judgement on. Yes, you will have to experiment with dosage and mix. Some guys are lucky and find the correct mix and dose quickly while others have to experiment awhile. Try to be patient. I can't help you with singles dating. I've been married for almost 40 years, closer to 50 if I count my first wife :roll:

I also have no idea when/if you should get an implant. Only you and your doctor can decide on that. It seems like you're not in a mental state to be patient and see if injections are for you. I figure you'll rush into an implant within 6 months. Good luck. I hope you find the best path for you whatever it may be.

If you haven't yet it I'd consider trying a silicone novelty/sex shop cock ring around your dick behind the boys. It might give you some of the boost you're looking for.


Thanks for taking the time to respond like that. And, you're right, there's absolutely a huge mental component to it all. There always has been going back to when I experienced it as a teenager. I had a nice 20 year run with 25mg of Viagra with minimal problems. When that started to fail, even at higher doses, or combined with Cialis, the mental part took over all the more. Especially since I was post-divorce and dating at the time. Most partners through that time have been beyond complimentary. Even saying that the ED made me a better lover overall because there's always attention on her when my erections are up and down and the sessions are long, pleasurable, and fun. I'm the one the most frustrated because I know things aren't working properly.

My hope with the Trimix is it'll restore confidence once a find a dosage that works as effectively as people here suggest it works. Especially if it's steady and consistent - at least for a bit of time. I'm still going to take a low dose daily Cialis and possibly Viagra on the in between days. There's nights where I'm on just the PDE5's and we can have sex 2 or 3 times. So there's still some effectiveness. It just seems like a 150mg to 200mg dose is required any more and I'm still losing erections off and on but regaining them. I'm hoping that adding Trimix to the mix is a boost both physically and mentally.

I definitely agree that my mix could be stronger and increasing the alprostadil (PGE1) would be a start - especially since I haven't had the ache on my two doses. We'll see how it goes as I up the dose. And the doctor did specifically tell me it's possible I feel very little difference on the 10 to 15 units and to not get discouraged. And, to my girlfriend, we had great sex that she's still talking about So it did help me in some regard even on the low dose. I just lost my erection about an hour in on the 5 units without cumming and was one, done, and limp after the 10 unit dose.

I don't think I'll be moving to an implant within the next six months without giving the Trimix a chance. It'll be tempting since I have the money to pay out of pocket for it and I've become so tired of spending so much money already on this. I was on Viagra before the generics were available, I buy a bottle of $200 PT-141 every month or so, I buy a ton of supplements for my sexual health, arginine and citrulline, I've had Gainswave, bought a Phoenix for at home therapy, had a P shot, and I'm on TRT therapy. That all adds up for what's ultimately inconsistent results. However, even though my erections aren't exactly natural, I like restoring and enhancing my natural erectile function. I don't necessarily know if I'm ready to have my erectile tissues gutted and pump it up. I'm just more open to it being an avenue I eventually go down but would like to prolong it little. At least until I'm in my 50s.

The cock rings just kind of make me veiny and fatter. I'm experimenting with some different ones though.