Trimix: Operator error or expired batch?

[magicman222]

Hi, I have a batch of Trimix which I've had since September 1st and it's always kept in the fridge ice cold but not frozen. I've used it 4 times now successfully where it produces a strong and long lasting erection. However this weekend I injected 8 units into the left side of my penis (awkward side given I am right handed) and it didn't produce the desired effect. I quickly knew something wasn't right because it didn't induce a powerful erection within a few minutes. I ended up with a rather disappointing chubby.

I figure perhaps this was my first injection "miss" where I missed getting the meds into the cavernosa. Maybe I injected too close to the base.

Then more recently I tried 8 units again (last successful dose was 9 units which was pretty intense and good) and injected on my right side - in the general area I've used in the past (but probably closer to the base this time). SAME RESULT. No hard erection. Just a disappointing chubby.

So my questions are :
- Is it common to "miss" like this and fail to get the meds where they need to be?
- should I be injecting more like halfway down the length of the shaft?
- is it possible I'm not doing anything wrong and my Trimix has lost potency? (about a month old always refrigerated)
- or has my body acclimated to Trimix and is telling me I need a bigger dose?

This is making me crazy given it worked like a charm 4 times but now I've had 2 fails in a row.

Any feedback and advice is appreciated.

[bldoink]

Probably 2 misses. Most tri-mix is still fairly potent when simply refrigerated for a month. However, I guess it could also depend on how important the alprostadil component was to the mix. If the alprostadil is a major component of the mix then it may have lost a noticeable amount of potency as that ingredient is the one that does lose potency if not frozen. I use a straight alprostadil mono-mix and for that reason I keep it frozen in the back of my freezer.

Also, if you use a tiny dose of mix, a slight miss can have a large effect. You may actually need a weaker dose so you can inject an amount large enough so that small errors aren't so catastrophic. I personally consider about 8 units to be the very smallest amount that can be reliably administered. 10 or more units is probably better.

[sogwap]

So my questions are :
- Is it common to "miss" like this and fail to get the meds where they need to be?
- should I be injecting more like halfway down the length of the shaft?
- is it possible I'm not doing anything wrong and my Trimix has lost potency? (about a month old always refrigerated)
- or has my body acclimated to Trimix and is telling me I need a bigger dose?

This is making me crazy given it worked like a charm 4 times but now I've had 2 fails in a row.

Any feedback and advice is appreciated.

Unless it was left out for several days I doubt it's lost its effectiveness.
Also doubtful your body is acclimated to Trimix.
The largest reason is it's not getting in cavernosa.

Since starting Trimix, I've paid much closer attention to where my cavernosa (erectile) tissue are, and it various states.
That includes everything from can't see or feel erectile chambers to full hardness.
Like you I missed once, not even a chubby...
Now when I inject, I make sure my little guy is awake, (but still faccid) so I can visibly see and feel the erectile chambers.

PS I know the crazy feeling

[magicman222]

Thanks for the responses. This is quite a relief. I was thinking there's no way it just stopped working or that my body has acclimated to it.

And I'd be surprised if the medication had lost its potency by now.
Sounds like lame operator error -- twice in a row.

I used 10 units once and that was very intense, so I've been trying small deviations.
9 units was the best dosage thus far; not quite as intense and long lasting as 10 units.
Tried 7 successfully and it wasn't quite enough IMO.
Wanted to try 8 units but I'm clearly missing the mark. I am surprised that just 1 unit can make a big difference.
Not sure if this is generally true or just depends on the circumstances, where I inject, level of arousal, all that jazz.

Have you found that 1 unit more or less makes a significant difference in your experience?

IMO it doesn't logically seem like it should.

Not quite sure how I missed twice; will try further down the shaft, away from the base.

How far down the shaft from the base do you usually inject? Is half-way a guaranteed winner?

I'm asking for your experience given I've seen different recommendations here and there.

Also I've been injecting at 9 o'clock (left side) and 3 o'clock (right side). Should I get better or more dependable results
with 10 o'clock (left side) and 2 o'clock (right side)? Does this really make any difference?

FWIW I'm using 30 gauge 1/2" needles.

In any case, I see doctors recommend to start with 10 units and go up if needed. I know 10 units works; maybe I'll stick with that.
Just need to ensure my girlfriend is prepared for that which she calls "supercharged" and that we have lots of time and privacy (not always easy).

PS: My mix is the standard 30-1-10 (Pap, Phen, PGE)

[bldoink]

I sent you a PM

[magicman222]

Thanks for the detailed PM. Very helpful. I tried again and changed up my injection technique and sure enough it was 2 misses in a row. Most recent injection worked just fine and I know what I previously did wrong. Live and learn. Pay more attention to my technique. I've done less than 10 injections and now understand why I've seen folks say you need to do it at least 5 times to start getting the hang of it.

[happycamper59]

No doubt that bldoink is the best amateur on here. IMHO, I would guess your amount is kind of low for a starter mix. I also wouldn't go less than 10 units. Getting 30-unit syringes really help in accuracy for such low doses. Keep it frozen and your Trimix should be good for up to 6 months, so I have found. Good luck on your journey!

[magicman222]

Thanks!

Actually 10 units is the most I've tried and it was super intense - I'd definitely be worried about a priapism if I went much higher than that.

Yep I'm using 30 unit syringes to make my dosing accurate. I'm honing in on 8 or 9 units. 9 units was pretty intense with 3 hour erection. Gonna try 8 units tonight. Interested to see how much difference 1 unit up or down really makes.

I have a 2.5 hour drive later today with my girlfriend for our weekend getaway and I understand taking a loaded syringe out of the fridge and taking with me should be fine -- e.g it will be at room temperature for a few hours -- and should still be just as potent. Want to avoid having to go through the process of drawing the meds into the syringe -- takes just a few minutes to grab a loaded syringe and inject myself without losing sexual momentum.

Stay tuned.

[bldoink]

It should probably be OK. However, to be on the safe side why don't you just stick it in a baggie and then on ice. In a thermos or whatever.

[magicman222]

I thought of that but am concerned about the plunger somehow getting pushed in and losing some of my meds.
I can put my vial in a baggie and my loaded syringe in a separate baggie, put some ice in a thermos, and place both baggies in the thermos, but I'm not sure if any jostling with the ice will end up pushing in the plunger any distance.

So I'm balancing risk of losing some medication in a cold syringe, or have a full syringe that will be at room temperature for less than 4 hours.