Titan touch deflate valve

[Kurt0726]

Guys with titan touch how hard do you press the deflate nipple. I notice that unless I press it pretty damn hard, it doesn't deflate all the way. All the tutorials I see online say I should not have to press the deflate all that hard for the implant to go down all the way. Also do you always notice the bulb "click" when putting it back to inflate mode? Sometimes i don't notice the click at all sometimes it is really hard. Any input from titan touch guys would be really appreciated. Thank you

[stephen54]

Guys with titan touch how hard do you press the deflate nipple. I notice that unless I press it pretty damn hard, it doesn't deflate all the way. All the tutorials I see online say I should not have to press the deflate all that hard for the implant to go down all the way. Also do you always notice the bulb "click" when putting it back to inflate mode? Sometimes i don't notice the click at all sometimes it is really hard. Any input from titan touch guys would be really appreciated. Thank you

Hey there, search around here and you'll see no shortage of very similar questions/discussions on this topic. My experience (I'm 11 months post-implant) is that my Titan Touch simply does not function in the way Coloplast advertises and claims. It just doesn't. I have to depress the deflate button with really significant pressure and my dick absolutely does not deflate from there on its own. My experience is that I need to keep the deflate depressed very firmly while, like a contortionist, I wrangle a way to flatten my dick against the side of my hand and my upper thigh. It's hard to describe but it's what I do. If I simply hit the button for 3-4 seconds then release the button, maybe 1/3 of the fluid travels out and back up to the reservoir; the rest remains in my dick and I need to coax and force it back out with the button depressed and with my hands working to wring the cylinders empty.

If you want to scream in frustration...try calling Coloplast to discuss this with them.

That being said...this new dick is a little slice of heaven, we love it. It ain't perfect, but it's transformational.

Oh...The bulb click you're describing upon inflation...I never experienced that at all.

Have fun!

[Kurt0726]

Thank you for your input. I think you may not be experiencing the bulb click because you don't press the deflate valve to its full travel. I notice that when I hit the deflate just slightly it deflates so.e and it doesn't click with first pump. It's actually really nice function. When I press to its full travel which is very hard, It clicks when setting it back into inflate mode.

[stephen54]

Thank you for your input. I think you may not be experiencing the bulb click because you don't press the deflate valve to its full travel. I notice that when I hit the deflate just slightly it deflates so.e and it doesn't click with first pump. It's actually really nice function. When I press to its full travel which is very hard, It clicks when setting it back into inflate mode.

I press it literally as hard as my hand can manage. To the point where I register concern about damaging the implant hardware and I back off. Any harder and I'd tear a hole in my sac. There's something with my buttons/valve which just isn't as marketed and promised. I've spoken with more guys here than I'd like, who are having the same experience. As long as it keeps working as it does I don't care. I've figured out my workarounds. But Coloplast is indeed full of shit and unsupportive and unresponsive.

[merrix]

I can relate to what Stephen says. Mine was like that in the beginning as well. I know I thought, and wrote in “My Journal” here on FT, that the One Touch was marketing BS which didn’t work in reality. I had to hold the deflate valve depressed with full force with one hand while I squeezed my dick with the other. I know I also thought I could deflate better if I was lying down vs standing up. I also used to follow my dick-squeezing with pressing my perineal area hard as well to squeeze out the saline from the part of the cylinders not in my dick.
And despite all this work, my flaccid wasn’t really perfectly empty.
So I called BS on the One Touch, for sure.

However, fast forward almost five years. What is it like today? Fantastic. Works like a charm. I mostly inflate my dick to the maximum when having sex. That means some 60-70 pumps. Not 60-70 full wall-to-wall pumps. After some 20-30 pumps, each pump moves less and less saline in to my dick. The last few pumps only transfers a tiny fraction of the first ones and I do use two hands, six fingers and 100% of the force I can generate.

When it is time to deflate, which I often do with one hand while I am still inside my wife, I just press the deflate valve once for a few seconds. I press it quite hard, but nothing extreme. Just a firm press. I immediately feel the valve open and the fluid starting to flow out of my dick. A few minutes later, normally by the time I get up and go take a piss, a glass of water, or whatever, my dick will be in some kind of semi state. Hanging at about 4:30. Which by the way is not only because of a semi-deflated Titan. It is also because at this time, I still have blood left in my dick, and that will create some kind of semi-erection as well. Then I go to bed, go to sleep, and when I wake up my dick is as flaccid as an implant can be. My cylinders are flat and my dick hangs straight down, or as straight down as my balls allow it to. I never press my bulb to “lock” the valve or anything. It remains totally empty till I inflate next time. At which time I will need to squeeze my bulb very hard for the first pump to reset the valve.

When did things change?
Can’t really remember. If someone is interested, it will be documented in my thread here on FT, “My Journal”. But it has definitely been like this for a 2-3 years now, probably more. Meaning it happened either already the first year or maybe during the second year.

Why did it change?
Don’t know. A reasonable guess is just that the valve needed a really long time to break in.

So my words of wisdom to anyone complaining about the One Touch, and calling it marketing BS – wait. I don’t say it is acceptable from Coloplast that a function marketed should take a year or two to start working.
But I say that there is a chance your implant will work like mine and you will get to enjoy the One Touch function. With time.

Take care.

[hopeful_future]

Two months in, and damn have I tried to get it to work as intended. I have tried pushing SO HARD, and still requires constant pressure to deflate. I am sure that it works for some people, I actually got to press the button on an actual example implant (as in, had the tubes attached and saline in the reservoir). It was easy to click that button, and it went into full deflate mode. To make it more frustrating, my doc managed to hit the button to the extent that I had the "pop" when reinflating...So it's possible even on mine. It hurt like nobody's business, but he got it done.

But I try a few times per week, pressing with different parts of my thumb, steadying the pump by using two hands, pressing different areas, pressing hard enough that it hurts for 15-20 minutes afterward...basically anything I can think of. Current thought is maybe I can try a thimble, in case it's just my thumb has too much give? Don't know, but it's definitely frustrating!

[Waynetho]

Two months in, and damn have I tried to get it to work as intended. I have tried pushing SO HARD, and still requires constant pressure to deflate. I am sure that it works for some people, I actually got to press the button on an actual example implant (as in, had the tubes attached and saline in the reservoir). It was easy to click that button, and it went into full deflate mode. To make it more frustrating, my doc managed to hit the button to the extent that I had the "pop" when reinflating...So it's possible even on mine. It hurt like nobody's business, but he got it done.

But I try a few times per week, pressing with different parts of my thumb, steadying the pump by using two hands, pressing different areas, pressing hard enough that it hurts for 15-20 minutes afterward...basically anything I can think of. Current thought is maybe I can try a thimble, in case it's just my thumb has too much give? Don't know, but it's definitely frustrating!

Based on the engineer drawings of the OTR pump, it may be that you're pressing on the side of the pump button rather than the center. Try being more precise on pressing right in the middle of the button assembly because the drawing (I shared the image link to on Stephen54's thread months ago) shows a small button in the middle of the outer silicone collar. You may be partially pressing the button while you're pushing the collar as well. Based on the drawings, the collar is not functional, only the button in the middle is.

[hopeful_future]

Based on the engineer drawings of the OTR pump, it may be that you're pressing on the side of the pump button rather than the center. Try being more precise on pressing right in the middle of the button assembly because the drawing (I shared the image link to on Stephen54's thread months ago) shows a small button in the middle of the outer silicone collar. You may be partially pressing the button while you're pushing the collar as well. Based on the drawings, the collar is not functional, only the button in the middle is.

I mean, I'll try more to get it right, but I've definitely done things like feel around for the entire rim of the button assembly, position my thumb in the middle of that, and then push. I'm going for the exact opposite of the divot on the other side. I don't know, man...I'll keep trying though!

[proctor]

So far my Rigicon is performing superbly when it comes to deflating. But initially I had to press very hard to the point I thought I would damage the bulb. I think things will settle down in a few weeks. Hope the hot baths (when you are permitted to start) will make everything down there more functional.

[stephen54]

I can relate to what Stephen says. Mine was like that in the beginning as well. I know I thought, and wrote in “My Journal” here on FT, that the One Touch was marketing BS which didn’t work in reality. I had to hold the deflate valve depressed with full force with one hand while I squeezed my dick with the other. I know I also thought I could deflate better if I was lying down vs standing up. I also used to follow my dick-squeezing with pressing my perineal area hard as well to squeeze out the saline from the part of the cylinders not in my dick.
And despite all this work, my flaccid wasn’t really perfectly empty.
So I called BS on the One Touch, for sure.

However, fast forward almost five years. What is it like today? Fantastic. Works like a charm. I mostly inflate my dick to the maximum when having sex. That means some 60-70 pumps. Not 60-70 full wall-to-wall pumps. After some 20-30 pumps, each pump moves less and less saline in to my dick. The last few pumps only transfers a tiny fraction of the first ones and I do use two hands, six fingers and 100% of the force I can generate.

When it is time to deflate, which I often do with one hand while I am still inside my wife, I just press the deflate valve once for a few seconds. I press it quite hard, but nothing extreme. Just a firm press. I immediately feel the valve open and the fluid starting to flow out of my dick. A few minutes later, normally by the time I get up and go take a piss, a glass of water, or whatever, my dick will be in some kind of semi state. Hanging at about 4:30. Which by the way is not only because of a semi-deflated Titan. It is also because at this time, I still have blood left in my dick, and that will create some kind of semi-erection as well. Then I go to bed, go to sleep, and when I wake up my dick is as flaccid as an implant can be. My cylinders are flat and my dick hangs straight down, or as straight down as my balls allow it to. I never press my bulb to “lock” the valve or anything. It remains totally empty till I inflate next time. At which time I will need to squeeze my bulb very hard for the first pump to reset the valve.

When did things change?
Can’t really remember. If someone is interested, it will be documented in my thread here on FT, “My Journal”. But it has definitely been like this for a 2-3 years now, probably more. Meaning it happened either already the first year or maybe during the second year.

Why did it change?
Don’t know. A reasonable guess is just that the valve needed a really long time to break in.

So my words of wisdom to anyone complaining about the One Touch, and calling it marketing BS – wait. I don’t say it is acceptable from Coloplast that a function marketed should take a year or two to start working.
But I say that there is a chance your implant will work like mine and you will get to enjoy the One Touch function. With time.

Take care.

That's helpful, thank you merrix. Always appreciate the reality reset from someone with more years and experiences. Will be interested to see how things evolve with mine over time. And, in truth, mostly am just focused on the larger prize - ie, that this implant becomes/stays my functional, trusty companion for a lot of years. It absolutely has its quirks but the stuff it allows us to do now is pretty ridiculous.

Really interesting about the # of pumps you're able to push through. I actually really appreciate knowing and understanding your approach with this.

I feel like I achieve 12-15 entirely full bulb pumps, then another 15-20 partial pumps. So, in total, perhaps 1/2 the pumps you are saying you're able to get.

The bulb of course pushes back on me with ever-increasing resistance to flow with each partial pump and becomes hard as a little stone at some point there. I've been curious how much one can truly challenge the bulb and keep pushing little partial fractional pumps. It does seem to me that, even when it's in hard-as-stone mode that there are, with really serious pressure applied, little tiny pumps left which take a hell of a lot of leverage to accomplish. I'm always surprised that there seems to be...I don't know...like a 10% movement or something left in that bulb, with each fractional pump, even in the context of it being seemingly hard as hell and immovable.

I've taken the bulb's resistance and rock hard firmness at that point as the not subtle signs I'm supposed to be picking up on which say "ease the fuck back here, before you break this thing".


Maybe not.

So I'm left to contemplate and experiment with how far in fact I'm able and willing to push this thing past where I already have. Find that balancing point between the function we want and enjoy, and some incremental function (or incremental size enhancement, even?) that maybe I've inadvertently left on the table here.

Good shit. Thanks man- I do appreciate the perspective very much.