Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

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Baseballfan11
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby Baseballfan11 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:59 pm

IndigoFOH wrote:
Baseballfan11 wrote:
IndigoFOH wrote:Here are a couple pics of it inflated. All in all very happy with how it turned out. The biggest adjustment is getting used to the glans feeling a little looser and looking smaller, although in my case they do still get somewhat engorged when aroused. Already seeing improvements in size from cycling which will just keep improving over time.

I’ll put up some measurements later for the inflated size.

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Hey man- how “hard” do you feel? The reason I ask is because your veins and everything don’t look bulging or any of that. In fact none of the images of the implant I’ve seen appear throbbing/bulging. Hopefully the appearance doesn’t do justice to how hard it actually feels on your body


Hey man - it feels *very* hard if not totally to the girth it was previously. But it’s easily even harder than my hardest erections used to be when I could still get them. I have just started cycling and going too far can be painful so I haven’t pumped it to the absolute max yet I’m sure.

The veins definitely do not swell up as much, some of that is a product of not being aroused, though. The more you’re actually turned on, the better it looks visually imo. Physically it feels really good, the hardness of the cylinders makes things feel way more pleasurable than they did when I couldn’t stay hard.

Sucks you are dealing with this at 23 - my issues started when I was 18 so I’ve been there. Hang in there man.


I appreciate your vulnerability and willingness to share, really helps me a lot actually. Glad to hear that positive news. From the other reports I’ve seen on this site, normal sensation sounds like it should be there if the surgeon does his job correctly. I’m curious how you navigated these waters with your parents when you were younger... I saw some urologists a few years back who told me I was fine, even when the Doppler thing didn’t feel like a good erection for me. I am planning to start up again on the “NoFap” trend from Reddit for awhile, and if after many months no success I’m prepared to toughen up and bring up the topic again with my family. I’m a decent looking guy and other than this, very happy and grateful with my circumstances in life. This problem is a glaring one though
26 years old. USA. ED problem since teenage years. Doctor prescribed ED meds showing some efficacy but not a guarantee. As much as I’d like the implant I now think I should hold off if I’m seeing some results from pills

RayChez
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby RayChez » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:15 pm

I guess every penis is different because if your Titan cylinders are 25cm that would be fully inflated at 9.843 inches long. I have the LGX and at 21cm my length is eight inches and 5.75 girth, but the LGX does stretch the penis out. But mine stays at around seven inches deflated. Maybe it is because I am already on my third prosthesis. It has had plenty of action. :lol:
age: 75 First implant around 2001, 59 at the time. AMS 700 Ultrex
revision Dec 2016. 2ND implant 21CM, 1rte AMS 700 LGX MS pump

IndigoFOH
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby IndigoFOH » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:27 pm

RayChez wrote:I guess every penis is different because if your Titan cylinders are 25cm that would be fully inflated at 9.843 inches long. I have the LGX and at 21cm my length is eight inches and 5.75 girth, but the LGX does stretch the penis out. But mine stays at around seven inches deflated. Maybe it is because I am already on my third prosthesis. It has had plenty of action. :lol:


Oh I don’t know what size my cylinders are. Still need to ask the doctor. I would guess not that big, but I’m not sure.
31 year old male in New York, venous leak my entire life. Implanted on 12/2/2020 with a 22 cm Titan with 3 cm rear tip extenders. Love it so far.

Post-surgery:
6.3” Length x 5.75” Girth Deflated
6.5” Length x 6” Girth Inflated

IndigoFOH
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby IndigoFOH » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:34 pm

Baseballfan11 wrote:
IndigoFOH wrote:
Baseballfan11 wrote:
Hey man- how “hard” do you feel? The reason I ask is because your veins and everything don’t look bulging or any of that. In fact none of the images of the implant I’ve seen appear throbbing/bulging. Hopefully the appearance doesn’t do justice to how hard it actually feels on your body


Hey man - it feels *very* hard if not totally to the girth it was previously. But it’s easily even harder than my hardest erections used to be when I could still get them. I have just started cycling and going too far can be painful so I haven’t pumped it to the absolute max yet I’m sure.

The veins definitely do not swell up as much, some of that is a product of not being aroused, though. The more you’re actually turned on, the better it looks visually imo. Physically it feels really good, the hardness of the cylinders makes things feel way more pleasurable than they did when I couldn’t stay hard.

Sucks you are dealing with this at 23 - my issues started when I was 18 so I’ve been there. Hang in there man.


I appreciate your vulnerability and willingness to share, really helps me a lot actually. Glad to hear that positive news. From the other reports I’ve seen on this site, normal sensation sounds like it should be there if the surgeon does his job correctly. I’m curious how you navigated these waters with your parents when you were younger... I saw some urologists a few years back who told me I was fine, even when the Doppler thing didn’t feel like a good erection for me. I am planning to start up again on the “NoFap” trend from Reddit for awhile, and if after many months no success I’m prepared to toughen up and bring up the topic again with my family. I’m a decent looking guy and other than this, very happy and grateful with my circumstances in life. This problem is a glaring one though


Yeah no doubt about it it’s tough and makes relationships very challenging. Having no good explanation for it is also really difficult and confusing. I tried a lot of different things before going with the point of no return and doing the implant. Pills, injections, who knows how much therapy, total abstinence. None of it ended up working for me, but you should definitely try all available therapies before deciding to do an implant. Surgery and recovery is not fun and is best avoided if possible.

Talking to your family about it is about as uncomfortable an experience as can be imagined. In my case they couldn’t stop trying to diagnose my problem and fix it when they didn’t know what the hell they were talking about and it could be really frustrating. Ultimately I just got to the point where I realized I had to do what I needed to do for myself and couldn’t allow myself to be burdened with their stress over it. It wasn’t an easy process, but now that the surgery is done and was a success everybody seems to agree it was for the best. Regardless, you can’t be alone when you’re dealing with this and you’re probably not going to find anyone better to confide in. Ultimately it’s still better to discuss it.
31 year old male in New York, venous leak my entire life. Implanted on 12/2/2020 with a 22 cm Titan with 3 cm rear tip extenders. Love it so far.

Post-surgery:
6.3” Length x 5.75” Girth Deflated
6.5” Length x 6” Girth Inflated

proctor
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby proctor » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 pm

You have stole my thoughts or probably most lucky guys thoughts. Initially for a few days I was very depressed (even after having done the surgery by none other than Dr Kramer). I thought that may be I should have opted for malleable rather than IPP. However, as days passed I feel so happy about my decision and thank ,y lucky stars that I made the right choice in terms of doctor selection and choosing IPP over malleable.

Anybody who is planning to undergo the surgery would probably go through the same emotional cycle no matter how much he is forewarned. But at least they should not, it happens to most men at least for the first few days. Then you never look back. :D
Rigicon Infla 10 AX , 18 Cm, 2 RTE, 110 ml. Dr Andrew Kramer

Baseballfan11
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby Baseballfan11 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:20 pm

IndigoFOH wrote:
Baseballfan11 wrote:
IndigoFOH wrote:
Hey man - it feels *very* hard if not totally to the girth it was previously. But it’s easily even harder than my hardest erections used to be when I could still get them. I have just started cycling and going too far can be painful so I haven’t pumped it to the absolute max yet I’m sure.

The veins definitely do not swell up as much, some of that is a product of not being aroused, though. The more you’re actually turned on, the better it looks visually imo. Physically it feels really good, the hardness of the cylinders makes things feel way more pleasurable than they did when I couldn’t stay hard.

Sucks you are dealing with this at 23 - my issues started when I was 18 so I’ve been there. Hang in there man.


I appreciate your vulnerability and willingness to share, really helps me a lot actually. Glad to hear that positive news. From the other reports I’ve seen on this site, normal sensation sounds like it should be there if the surgeon does his job correctly. I’m curious how you navigated these waters with your parents when you were younger... I saw some urologists a few years back who told me I was fine, even when the Doppler thing didn’t feel like a good erection for me. I am planning to start up again on the “NoFap” trend from Reddit for awhile, and if after many months no success I’m prepared to toughen up and bring up the topic again with my family. I’m a decent looking guy and other than this, very happy and grateful with my circumstances in life. This problem is a glaring one though


Yeah no doubt about it it’s tough and makes relationships very challenging. Having no good explanation for it is also really difficult and confusing. I tried a lot of different things before going with the point of no return and doing the implant. Pills, injections, who knows how much therapy, total abstinence. None of it ended up working for me, but you should definitely try all available therapies before deciding to do an implant. Surgery and recovery is not fun and is best avoided if possible.

Talking to your family about it is about as uncomfortable an experience as can be imagined. In my case they couldn’t stop trying to diagnose my problem and fix it when they didn’t know what the hell they were talking about and it could be really frustrating. Ultimately I just got to the point where I realized I had to do what I needed to do for myself and couldn’t allow myself to be burdened with their stress over it. It wasn’t an easy process, but now that the surgery is done and was a success everybody seems to agree it was for the best. Regardless, you can’t be alone when you’re dealing with this and you’re probably not going to find anyone better to confide in. Ultimately it’s still better to discuss it.



Thanks man, I was definitely considering the therapy route next. I don’t have the highest hopes in No Fap really working. This issue has been bugging me for years; certainly it couldn’t be all psychological because I had no psychological issue just on my own before ever trying to get with a girl. I’ve had self hate and blame as well, worrying that my technique of masturbation where I squeezed my dick between my thighs, was to blame for my seemingly terminal condition. I’ve been assured by urologists and posters on here that this method definitely wouldn’t have caused permanent damage. How did you conclude that you actually DID have a physical leak problem? I’d rather have a solid sex life for the next 20-25 years with an implant that fails than wait til I’m in my late 30s to address this and settle for a partner who may not be ideal
26 years old. USA. ED problem since teenage years. Doctor prescribed ED meds showing some efficacy but not a guarantee. As much as I’d like the implant I now think I should hold off if I’m seeing some results from pills

IndigoFOH
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby IndigoFOH » Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:56 pm

Baseballfan11 wrote:Thanks man, I was definitely considering the therapy route next. I don’t have the highest hopes in No Fap really working. This issue has been bugging me for years; certainly it couldn’t be all psychological because I had no psychological issue just on my own before ever trying to get with a girl. I’ve had self hate and blame as well, worrying that my technique of masturbation where I squeezed my dick between my thighs, was to blame for my seemingly terminal condition. I’ve been assured by urologists and posters on here that this method definitely wouldn’t have caused permanent damage. How did you conclude that you actually DID have a physical leak problem? I’d rather have a solid sex life for the next 20-25 years with an implant that fails than wait til I’m in my late 30s to address this and settle for a partner who may not be ideal


I suspected I might have it for a couple of years but it wasn’t until I had to do some ultrasounds where they inject you with trimix to try to give you an erection before I officially got diagnosed. The injections didn’t work very well (they never did for me, neither did pills) and they were able to measure the blood that was flowing out as being abnormal.

My belief is that whatever you’re physically doing to your dick isn’t the issue. For me I always believed the root cause that led to the venous leak was likely a brain issue but not in the way it’s usually discussed, where it’s blamed on a combination of stress, depression or anxiousness. I stopped having morning wood when I was 18, there is no emotional explanation that makes sense for that. Something happened in my brain that screwed up the mechanisms that make an erection happen; was it overstimulation and desensitization from pornography as the NoFap people say? I don’t know. It seems possible but I never found any definitive proof. I would sometimes make it two months without masturbating and see legitimate improvement in my erections, but within like a week it was back to normal as soon as I started again.

Again, I’d really encourage you to exhaust all alternative options before getting an implant. I’m really young to be getting one at 31, 23 obviously even more so and you’ll probably have difficulty finding a doctor who will perform the procedure on you until you jump through the other treatment hoops first anyway. Ultimately though it is good to know there is a permanent solution that will work, it just comes at a price.
31 year old male in New York, venous leak my entire life. Implanted on 12/2/2020 with a 22 cm Titan with 3 cm rear tip extenders. Love it so far.

Post-surgery:
6.3” Length x 5.75” Girth Deflated
6.5” Length x 6” Girth Inflated

Flavio
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby Flavio » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:15 am

Amazing results, thank you for sharing your experience.

2 questions:

a) I read on these forums that an implant will correct penile curvature, is this correct?

b) Is there any way a sexual partner can tell if you've had an implant? Your photos look totally natural to me.

Thanks in advance, congratulations on your results!
Age 40. Psychogenic ED for over 20 years. Current regimen: Udenafil 200 mg, oral phentolamine mesylate 40 mg, Seredyn.

IndigoFOH
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby IndigoFOH » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:00 am

Flavio wrote:Amazing results, thank you for sharing your experience.

2 questions:

a) I read on these forums that an implant will correct penile curvature, is this correct?

b) Is there any way a sexual partner can tell if you've had an implant? Your photos look totally natural to me.

Thanks in advance, congratulations on your results!


a) can’t speak on this one, I never had issues with it.

b) yes, while it may not be immediately apparent, the presence of the pump in the scrotum is very hard to miss and will give it away immediately. The pump is fixed in position on the front of the scrotum in the center and would be very noticeable. That said, if your partner happens not to go near there, it might be difficult for them to tell based on just the penis.
31 year old male in New York, venous leak my entire life. Implanted on 12/2/2020 with a 22 cm Titan with 3 cm rear tip extenders. Love it so far.

Post-surgery:
6.3” Length x 5.75” Girth Deflated
6.5” Length x 6” Girth Inflated

Waynetho
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Re: Size After Surgery (for those considering an implant)

Postby Waynetho » Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:52 pm

IndigoFOH wrote:
Flavio wrote:Amazing results, thank you for sharing your experience.

2 questions:

a) I read on these forums that an implant will correct penile curvature, is this correct?

b) Is there any way a sexual partner can tell if you've had an implant? Your photos look totally natural to me.

Thanks in advance, congratulations on your results!


a) can’t speak on this one, I never had issues with it.

b) yes, while it may not be immediately apparent, the presence of the pump in the scrotum is very hard to miss and will give it away immediately. The pump is fixed in position on the front of the scrotum in the center and would be very noticeable. That said, if your partner happens not to go near there, it might be difficult for them to tell based on just the penis.

Just one point to comment on... The pump isn't always in the front of the scrotum fixed or otherwise. Nor is it always in the back of the scrotum either. My pump started out feeling like it was in a fixed location on the left side, next to my testicle and causing my testicle to ride on top. The pump would fold back underneath from front-to-back and the bulb was pointing toward my perineum. A year+ later and my pump no longer appears to be fixed in place, free floating within my scrotum and sharing the space next to my testicles. I know it's in the left side pocket of my scrotum only because that's where it WAS when I was healing. Now it hangs down the middle toward the back.

My implant was installed penoscrotally thus the tubing comes directly out of the lower portion of my corpora and forward, then arcs forward then down into my scrotum. A man with an infrapubic install would have the tubes coming from on top of the penis and might have the pump in the rear of the scrotum as likely as the front. Typically the surgeon does create a blunt dissected pocket within the scrotum's layers for the pump and that's what I thought I had but either that didn't happen in my case or the pocket eventually broke through and left my pump sharing with my left testicle in the same space.
62yo, married 41 yrs. Urolift (x4) 8/12/19. AMS 700CX 15cm (no RTE) penoscrotal 10/28/19, Frisco, TX. PD 1995/ED 2011. Cialis helped but hinged. (1995)L:6/G:5.5+, (2019)Pre-op L:5/G:4.5, (2/2020)L:6.0/G:5.0


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