It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

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Biker21
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Biker21 » Fri May 21, 2021 9:46 am

Hi Griffin, I'm in the UK too - South Yorkshire.
The Urologist I last went to see told me that if I went for an implant the erect length would only equal my current flaccid length.
This is not what I've understood from looking through this forum so I'm not convinced he would be the correct surgeon.

So you can can get an implant on the NHS fully paid for? I'm quite frankly amazed, you can't even get a VED on the NHS! (unless you've had prostrate surgery)
47yrs old. Lifetime ED sufferer
PDE5's, VED, Mild/stable Pyronies

confused95
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Postby confused95 » Fri May 21, 2021 9:54 am

Definitely the size won't be the one of your flaccid state.
Most of the guys here recover their pre-op size lenght, but it is likely you'll lose 0.25/0.5 inches or so...

Go for an high volume surgeon ;-)
26yo from Italy. Psychogenic ed since dec 2019, got worse in Jan 2021. On Cialis 5mg every 24hrs, it works! But masturbation and sex bring me a lot of anxiety. On talk-therapy.
Update: diagnosed with slight Peyronie’s, investigating more on that

Lost Sheep
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri May 21, 2021 12:36 pm

Biker21 wrote:The Urologist I last went to see told me that if I went for an implant the erect length would only equal my current flaccid length.
This is not what I've understood from looking through this forum so I'm not convinced he would be the correct surgeon.
(edited for focus)

I will be unkind in this post (and rant) because I see a surgeon who is, at best, unsure of himself and more likely, incompetent to perform implant surgeries.

The only reason I can see, absent actual structural damage to the penis, for losing erect length is excessive caution of the surgeon. The reason for that, I will guess is that the surgeon is afraid that the implant will stress the tunica to the point of injury (erosion). This is ridiculous. The implant, properly sized, does not stress/stretch the tunica any more than the corporosum tissues did when the penis was able to erect itself.

To put an implant in a man that matches his flaccid size is nothing short of gross malpractice. (In the absence of other, radical medical issues which are fairly rare.)

I vehemently oppose the practice of medicine wherein the practitioner does not know what he or she is doing.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Quincy
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Quincy » Fri May 21, 2021 1:08 pm

I am in total agreement with Lost Sheep!
71, Boise area, Married
ED from type 2 diabetes and PCa radiation.
AMS LGX surgery 6/5/18 with Edward Karpman in Silicon Valley, 18cm+3RTE

Skier123
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Skier123 » Fri May 21, 2021 10:26 pm

So glad to see you boys taking the bull by the horns and not taking no for an answer. I agree most guys on here seem to regain most if not all of their pre-op length after a month or two of cycling. And IMHO an average length perpetually rock hard c*** beats a noodly unreliable 9 incher any day of the week :lol:
54 yr old single guy
Severe ED for over10 years; diagnosed with peyrones and venous leak
Implanted 12/23/19, Dr. Laurence Levine
Coloplast Titan w/ Genesis pump

Griffin
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Griffin » Sat May 22, 2021 7:04 am

Hi Biker21
I'd be a little worried if my urologist said that. Mine calmly said 'you will have what you have now... Maybe little bit more' (Dr Bazo, Nottingham city) I'm fully assuming he meant erect :lol:
Incase you didn't know, you can request to have your implant done elsewhere. The highest volume implant hospitals in England are London (Dr Ralph's team) Leicester and Nottingham in that order.
My man said he wouldn't be offended if I chose to go elsewhere but he's straight to the point and has agreed that I need an implant with no messing so at this time I'll be staying with him.

My VED cost £200 and that was the cheapest option on my prescription but yes, the implant is fully funded on our NHS although it may not be as easy to get one as it sounds in some areas from what I've read.

As always I agree with Lost sheep.

I've got to return in July for a Caverject shot to 'see what they are dealing with' and talk to their councillor. I'd better choose my words carefully with that one.
As my straight talking urologist said... You need to understand if you don't like your implant or something goes wrong your fucked! I think he was just trying to get the point across that this decision is a final one and I respect that.

Good luck mate and don't take no for an answer. I've had to pester my urology dpt many times when they try and fob me off with telephone appointments six months apart! To me, this is mega important and at very least deserves face to face. I might add that he made it clear the NHS isn't allowing implant surgery atm but I've read this is being reviewed over the next couple of months and I'm feeling positive. We have to be.
42 UK, Peyronie's plaques. No bending, just substandard functionality and some miss-shaping. Jumped through all the NHS hoops (various pills, VED, injections) finally getting implanted 04/10/22

Biker21
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Biker21 » Thu May 27, 2021 7:09 am

Hi Griffin
I’ve sent you a PM as I’ve a NHS urology appointment in a few hours and was wondering what’s the keywords and phrases to use to get down the implant route.

The last time I got to speak to the surgeon he was very dismissive.

I was also told that since when I went in last time to try Vitaros and that it didn’t work at all, Caverjet injections were not an option as contained the same active ingredient. alprostadil

I see most guys get a shot of caverjet by the implant surgeon beforehand to measure the correct unit to fit. Where does that leave me if they can’t use alprostadil?

Thanks.
47yrs old. Lifetime ED sufferer
PDE5's, VED, Mild/stable Pyronies

Bluewhippet
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Re: It's happening! I'm going to be joining the ranks

Postby Bluewhippet » Fri May 28, 2021 3:15 am

Hi Biker21
There is Is an alternative to Caverject called Invicorp which does not contain Aprostadil. It was offered to me at Northampton Urology when Caverject had become less effective. However, I had decided that I wanted an implant and was then referred to Mr Summerton at Leicester who carried out my surgery a few months later.

I have no particular advice on what to say when you see your specialist although I had no test injection perhaps because I was already using injections and have diabetes (type 2) so ED is a very common consequence. I would recommend stressing how important continued sexual activity is to you. I was 74 years old when I saw my specialist and some people assume that for men of my age sex is no longer important. In my case that was not true and now 2 years later with an implant my wife and I still enjoy regular intercourse 2 or 3 times a week.
My experience was that my implant was not undersized (the tips are 3/4 into my glans when inflated) but I did lose about 1/2 AN inch in length but no change in girth. I would have preferred an LGX instead of a CX in the hope of more length but Mr Summerton only uses the CX which he believes are more reliable. Nevertheless, I have an implant that works perfectly and is as rigid as anyone could want.
Best of luck. You may want to read my earlier posts about my history.
80 year old Type2 diabetic, long term ED, pills then injections PGE1. After 4 years they became less effective. Implanted 20/3/2018 by NHS. AMS 700 CX 15+4 cm with MS pump. Never had any significant pain. Still working perfectly and used regularly.


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