How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

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steveking
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How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby steveking » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:38 pm

I am seriously thinking of getting implant but scared about what it would entail.

I heard life span of 10 years per implant so am I looking at 6 revisions or more?

I heard that the chance of infection goes higher after each revision and it can literally mean game over in some cases.

Lost Sheep
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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:54 pm

steveking wrote:I am seriously thinking of getting implant but scared about what it would entail.

I heard life span of 10 years per implant so am I looking at 6 revisions or more?

I heard that the chance of infection goes higher after each revision and it can literally mean game over in some cases.

Short answer: As many as you need.

Here are my thoughts on the matter of whether or not to get an implant and the effect that revisions have on that decision.

If you still get usable erections, by whatever means, you are ill-advised to get an implant, even if it were certain to outlive you.

If you are at the point that you have nothing erectile to lose, your decision is made. You get the implant and deal with revisions if and when they occur.

Life is too short to miss the joys of sex and too long to endure its absence. Your years between 35 and 45 are prime for enjoying a sex life. Use them wisely.

Ask yourself this question. "If I could choose only a single decade of erectile capacity, which decade would I choose? 34-45? 34-55? 55-65? 65-75? 75-85?" Which decade are you best served by?
Lost Sheep
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RayChez
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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby RayChez » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:58 pm

It all depends. Like any thing mechanical it can last a long time like my first one lasted 15 years. But my second one the pump failed or was not working proper from the start, so I call it a failure after lasting only ten months. So since I love the implants I had a second revision and am now going on two years working perfect. But to give you an answer as to how many revisions you will need? there are lot of factors that go into figuring something like that. LUCK! But to me sex is one of the most important things in life for me. So I will never accept ED. It is a very depressing thing that can happen to any man.
age: 75 First implant around 2001, 59 at the time. AMS 700 Ultrex
revision Dec 2016. 2ND implant 21CM, 1rte AMS 700 LGX MS pump

steveking
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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby steveking » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:08 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
steveking wrote:I am seriously thinking of getting implant but scared about what it would entail.

I heard life span of 10 years per implant so am I looking at 6 revisions or more?

I heard that the chance of infection goes higher after each revision and it can literally mean game over in some cases.

Short answer: As many as you need.

Here are my thoughts on the matter of whether or not to get an implant and the effect that revisions have on that decision.

If you still get usable erections, by whatever means, you are ill-advised to get an implant, even if it were certain to outlive you.

If you are at the point that you have nothing erectile to lose, your decision is made. You get the implant and deal with revisions if and when they occur.

Life is too short to miss the joys of sex and too long to endure its absence. Your years between 35 and 45 are prime for enjoying a sex life. Use them wisely.

Ask yourself this question. "If I could choose only a single decade of erectile capacity, which decade would I choose? 34-45? 34-55? 55-65? 65-75? 75-85?" Which decade are you best served by?



It erects but disappears quite quickly and its stressful. Lose confidence and i cant approach women with confidence anymore.

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:29 pm

Erects but collapses quicklly. Could be venous leak. Could be bashful penis syndrome (I just made up that name) or psychological. Or anywhere in between.

Best to be evaluated by a urologist who specializes in male sexual function. Best to find out the cause, because many causes are treatable.

In the meantime, measure your erection to establish a baseline (both length and girth, including pictures with the date) for documentation. As long as you are getting full erections, even momentarily, you don't have to take drastic measures to maintain penile health or size.

At your age, my condition was much like yours. If I had been able to obtain oral medications, they would certainly have improved my situation greatly, but that was 3 decades ago and I was too embarrassed to bring up the subject to my primary care physician. After about 10 years, I did get Viagra and it worked GREAT until it didn't. Move on to Cialis and then Tadalafil. Each worked for a few years. Finally i took the leap to an implant because there was no other viable solution. (Rejected suppositories, VED and inections with the approval of my doctor.)

Lack of dependable and durable erections did not deter me from relationships with women and I recommend you do not cut yourself off from the fairer sex, either. I often (when sex became immminent) would let her know, "my penis does not work as well as I wish it would but I will do everything I can to make sure you are satisfied." And the proceeded to use whatever means were necessary to give yer at least one orgasm. Women respect a man who is honest with them and does not attempt to hide things or go into denial.

So, that's my advice. Don't go for an implant until it is absolutely necessary. Use all other means first pills, whatever other medical solutions you can accept and whatever sexual techniques you can muster). Be honest with your lover. If she is not worth honesty, is she reallly worth your time? You do yourself (or her) no honor with sex outside of SOME kind of relationship. Otherwise it is just masturbation by another person. Get a professional opinion to rule out all other (less invasive and radical) solutions. If all else fails...don't wait. If any possible solution exists, try that before the implant.

In the pantheon of treatments, implant is the one that is guaranteed to be irreversible and irretrievably destroy what erectile ability you still have. So do not go into it lightly, but only when no other treatment is satisfactory. If a true cure were to be discovered the day after you are implanted, it will do you no good once the implant operation has destroyed, damaged or compromised those erectile tissues (corpora cavernosum inside the tunica albuginea). Only go to an implant if there is nothing to go back to.

Implant is not a cure. It is a treatment. A very good one, but not a cure. A natural erection if far superior in many ways, so if a treatment that is less invasive, destructive and flawed than an implant will work for you, take it. Most treatments do not leave you permanently changed as an implant does. But if NOTHING is available, then do consider an implant
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby steveking » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:35 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:Erects but collapses quicklly. Could be venous leak. Could be bashful penis syndrome (I just made up that name) or psychological. Or anywhere in between.

Best to be evaluated by a urologist who specializes in male sexual function. Best to find out the cause, because many causes are treatable.

In the meantime, measure your erection to establish a baseline (both length and girth, including pictures with the date) for documentation. As long as you are getting full erections, even momentarily, you don't have to take drastic measures to maintain penile health or size.

At your age, my condition was much like yours. If I had been able to obtain oral medications, they would certainly have improved my situation greatly, but that was 3 decades ago and I was too embarrassed to bring up the subject to my primary care physician. After about 10 years, I did get Viagra and it worked GREAT until it didn't. Move on to Cialis and then Tadalafil. Each worked for a few years. Finally i took the leap to an implant because there was no other viable solution. (Rejected suppositories, VED and inections with the approval of my doctor.)

Lack of dependable and durable erections did not deter me from relationships with women and I recommend you do not cut yourself off from the fairer sex, either. I often (when sex became immminent) would let her know, "my penis does not work as well as I wish it would but I will do everything I can to make sure you are satisfied." And the proceeded to use whatever means were necessary to give yer at least one orgasm. Women respect a man who is honest with them and does not attempt to hide things or go into denial.

So, that's my advice. Don't go for an implant until it is absolutely necessary. Use all other means first pills, whatever other medical solutions you can accept and whatever sexual techniques you can muster). Be honest with your lover. If she is not worth honesty, is she reallly worth your time? You do yourself (or her) no honor with sex outside of SOME kind of relationship. Otherwise it is just masturbation by another person. Get a professional opinion to rule out all other (less invasive and radical) solutions. If all else fails...don't wait. If any possible solution exists, try that before the implant.

In the pantheon of treatments, implant is the one that is guaranteed to be irreversible and irretrievably destroy what erectile ability you still have. So do not go into it lightly, but only when no other treatment is satisfactory. If a true cure were to be discovered the day after you are implanted, it will do you no good once the implant operation has destroyed, damaged or compromised those erectile tissues (corpora cavernosum inside the tunica albuginea). Only go to an implant if there is nothing to go back to.

Implant is not a cure. It is a treatment. A very good one, but not a cure. A natural erection if far superior in many ways, so if a treatment that is less invasive, destructive and flawed than an implant will work for you, take it. Most treatments do not leave you permanently changed as an implant does. But if NOTHING is available, then do consider an implant



Can you tell me why? I am scared myself too but i am so sick of worrying about erection everytime. A lot of people praise implant here but i know it has shortcomings. Whats your take o it? Do you wish you had done it sooner? Can you still feel orgasm with implant?

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:45 pm

steveking wrote:Can you tell me why?

Why what? I made several assertions and I do not know which one you want more information about.
steveking wrote: I am scared myself too but i am so sick of worrying about erection everytime.

I lost fear as I gained knowledge. I researched web sites a LOT. (I got a tremendous amount of spam and come-ones for products and porn sites). I was about to give up on finding any information on the internet when someone mentioned FrankTalk. I also found legitimate information sources in medical journals. Legitimate peer-reviewed journals, not popular press, though I read those, too.

Knowledge is power and dispels fear.

When haveing sex with my girlfriend and subject to E.D. bordering on impotence, I learned to use fingers, toys and tongue to satisfy her. That took away a LOT of the worry about my erection. She and I just learned not to be TOO dependent on my erection for sex and to enjoy the orgasms we (both) had without it. And when they did occur, so much the better. Having a relationship with a good woman outside of sex improves the sexual component greatly. Women are incredibly supportive it they feel desired, respected, trusted and safe.

No need for fear or embarrassment with a woman of quality who likes you. No need for any other relationship with a woman who does not. Sex with a woman with whom you do not have a relationship is not much more than masturbation with another person. (I think I wrote that before.) Better to spend the money you would spend on a couple of nice dinners and buy a masturbation tool at a sex shop instead.
steveking wrote: A lot of people praise implant here but i know it has shortcomings.

Despite the shortcomings, an erection by implant is still an erection and far superior to a limp dick. So, yes, I praise mine.
steveking wrote:Whats your take o it? Do you wish you had done it sooner?

Yeah, I do.

I do not regret waiting until I did my research, though. I spent 14 months finding a surgeon I trusted to do the job. Crossing this Rubicon is pretty darned significant. I DO wish I had discussed my E.D. with my primary care physician YEARS before...getting on Viagra in my late 30s/40s instead of my 50s and leaning about implants and finding out that one would be authorized for me would have been a LOT better.

steveking wrote:Can you still feel orgasm with implant?

Yes, I can. It is somewhat different, though. Right after implant it took longer to orgasm and sometimes I did not cum at all. But I attribute that to my nerves being traumatized and taking some time to settle down. 6 months or so. Now I cum as easily as I ever did. I also, before implant, enjoyed fellatio more than coitus. That may be due to fellatio not requiring a hard erection. Or maybe it does feel different. Memory has a funny way of altering our perceptions of physical feelings over time. So, I don't worry about it. My girlfriend worries about it more than I do. She likes to fellate me, even though my penis does not respond/stand up on its own when she does. She just enjoys having a full mouth, I guess. (I have talked with her about this, but her explanations just do not resonate with me.) I never could fathom why women like to give head. It does nothing physical to/for their genitals.

That last bit of digression lends support to this statement: "The brain is the most significan sexual organ." How she THINKKS about sex with you is as important as the physical act (erection or not). And, by the same token, how YOU think about sex is equally important, too.

After orgasm, I still experience a drop in energy level and drop in sexual desire, though the erection remains just as stiff. That is the one difference. If I can muster the energy, we could continue fucking until the cows come home. Men here like to refer to "The Bionic Brotherhood" and the alliteration has appeal, but I prefer the term "Cyborg" which is defined as "person whose physical abilities are extended beyond normal human limitations by mechanical elements built into the body" where "Bionic" smacks of electronics. The duration and predictability of an implant erection is WAY beyond normal human limitations. It makes a human male almost equivalent to the classical demi-god Priapus.

OK, now it is ME who is going overboard on praise of the implant.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby confused95 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:56 am

Please, also consider that the implants are improving over time.. this means that in 20 years it’s likely there are going to be very durable implants.
By the way for the sake of simplicity, let’s assume that implants won’t get any improvements: the lifespan is now around 10 years if you use them consistently 2/3 times a week.
With the first surgery + 3 revisions you could get to 75 years old easily… that’s not so much in my opinion and it’s better than having a limp dick!
26yo from Italy. Psychogenic ed since dec 2019, got worse in Jan 2021. On Cialis 5mg every 24hrs, it works! But masturbation and sex bring me a lot of anxiety. On talk-therapy.
Update: diagnosed with slight Peyronie’s, investigating more on that

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:30 am

I think that we just had a member report that his lasted 23 years if I remember correctly. So I guess that only having 2 or pehaps 3 implants could be a possibilty.
Look on the bright side of things.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: How many revisions should a 35 year old expect?

Postby Sofa King » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:07 am

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51 Have had ED for at least 15 years, then PD. Pills stopped working, not going to do the other things. Mayo Clinic Minnesota 24 cm Titan


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