Implant after years of using Trimix

[JH1982]

Hi guys I’m 40 and after many years of my dick serving me well I’m experiencing ED.

I cannot use pills due to my medical history.

I have to study the question better but Trimix might be safe or safer.

However my future is the implant.

In an ideal world I would like to postpone this choice as much as possible.

So I’m considering Trimix among my options to delay the implantation.

I heard from Perito (but my gut feeling tells me not to trust him) that years of Trimix might make the implantation trickier.

Is it true or is just a lie to try to sell more implants?

[crazyjoe]

I am not at all medical -- but Perito's word "might" is, in my opinion, correct, There are many guys who inject for years with no scarring. There are others who develop scarring after some years. And others who develop it very quickly. Personally I fell into the third group -- after only 8 months of injecting, when Eid did the implant afterwards he said I was obliterated with scarring that he had a tough time to work through -- took 2 1/2 hours...

So with injecting, as many have said, it's a roll of the dice. I will say this -- when it's working it's really great!

[Frenchie]

I am not at all medical -- but Perito's word "might" is, in my opinion, correct, There are many guys who inject for years with no scarring. There are others who develop scarring after some years. And others who develop it very quickly. Personally I fell into the third group -- after only 8 months of injecting, when Eid did the implant afterwards he said I was obliterated with scarring that he had a tough time to work through -- took 2 1/2 hours...

So with injecting, as many have said, it's a roll of the dice. I will say this -- when it's working it's really great!

What were the first signs of scarring that you noticed ? How to know you are developing scarring?
I guess if one catches it early before a big damage is done , an implant can be placed anyways?

[crazyjoe]

I noticed a lump in one of the injecting areas -- nothing more than that. But from Eid's words to me, and to my surprise, my scarring was extensive and damaging.

In my opinion, this is where a very experienced, high volume surgeon can make a difference in the outcome. He told me he had to use a very small drill to get through all of it and I felt he made a very successful implant with nearly instant healing.

[Trek50]

I got tired of the burning sensation and bruising with the shots, trying to time things correctly, and trying to travel with a sensitive medication. I had no way of knowing when scar tissue may become an issue so I proceeded with an implant. I'm 4 days post surgery and things are going well. Looking forward to no pills, shots or pumps.

[Gt1956]

I am not at all medical -- but Perito's word "might" is, in my opinion, correct, There are many guys who inject for years with no scarring. There are others who develop scarring after some years. And others who develop it very quickly. Personally I fell into the third group -- after only 8 months of injecting, when Eid did the implant afterwards he said I was obliterated with scarring that he had a tough time to work through -- took 2 1/2 hours...
So with injecting, as many have said, it's a roll of the dice. I will say this -- when it's working it's really great!

What were the first signs of scarring that you noticed ? How to know you are developing scarring?
I guess if one catches it early before a big damage is done , an implant can be placed anyways?

Frenchie, part of the problem with scarring is it contracts which causes the peyronies. Once it starts it doesn't stop. So if you notice scarring you need to get an implant as quickly as possible because the peyronies is getting worse every day you wait. Just stopping the injections does not stop the progression of the disease.

[Frenchie]

I am not at all medical -- but Perito's word "might" is, in my opinion, correct, There are many guys who inject for years with no scarring. There are others who develop scarring after some years. And others who develop it very quickly. Personally I fell into the third group -- after only 8 months of injecting, when Eid did the implant afterwards he said I was obliterated with scarring that he had a tough time to work through -- took 2 1/2 hours...
So with injecting, as many have said, it's a roll of the dice. I will say this -- when it's working it's really great!

What were the first signs of scarring that you noticed ? How to know you are developing scarring?
I guess if one catches it early before a big damage is done , an implant can be placed anyways?

Frenchie, part of the problem with scarring is it contracts which causes the peyronies. Once it starts it doesn't stop. So if you notice scarring you need to get an implant as quickly as possible because the peyronies is getting worse every day you wait. Just stopping the injections does not stop the progression of the disease.

I know man it sucks but as a really young guy I have to make the most of injections before going for implant. I see some men who have used them for years with no scarring and the literature says only a fraction develop it. But once you get scarring I have two big questions that worry me :
1.Can VED everyday help to maintain the size while you are waiting for the implant?
2. Can the implant itself regain the size lost by scarring and peyronie or it only maintains what you are left before the surgery?

[Txagq8]

Let’s see what I can dredge up from the memory archives.

It was about 1987, I was 31, when I was officially diagnosed with physical ED. I had known something wasn’t right since I became (very) sexually active at 19. I couldn’t get doctors to believe it was anything except nerves, stress, performance anxiety, you’re only 27 etc etc.

When they finished the imaging, they put me on bimix. That was IT back then. No viagra, no Cialis, no implants. All that stuff was on the drawing board for the future. I used the bimix 1987-95. Then inn1995 my then-urologist expressed some concern about scarring so they switched me to Caverject (prostaglandin E1). If I had known about achy dick I might have embraced celibacy.

Viagra came out around 97-98. I immediately had a prescription for 100 mg. Army health care didn’t pay for it either. The old joke was the Army’s answer to ED was two popsicle sticks and a roll of duct tape. I was functional with the pills plus an occasional shot.

I had a work up in the urology dept at Univ of Kansas around 2000. They let me keep the oral meds and put me on TriMix.

I did that with about a 70% satisfaction rate for next 15 years.

Between 2015 & 2018, the blue pill and a max dose of trimix or Quadmix just got to where they would get me hard, for maybe 5-10 mins. At age 60 I am not quick on the trigger like age 19 or 22. So I got an implant.

I told my surgeon, discussed it at length, that I’d been in injection therapy 32 yrs and was curious about how scarred things were likely to be. After the surgery he told me he saw no signs of any scar tissue in there to speak of.

So the answer, really, is nobody knows. Injections due cause bad ass scarring and Peyronie’s in some guys. I’m living proof you can do shots for 32 yrs and things are clean as a whistle. I’d be inclined to try injections and at the first sign of trouble, raise the white flag.

[Rider1400]

After 10 plus years of pills they all but completely stopped working. I started tri-mix and abut 10-11 ok tha in I had several small b b sized bumps on my penis in the area of injections. Also my 12 months I. I had doubled the dose 4 times and was about to go to a much stronger strength mix. At the level i was at I was getting more and more ache. I had a consultation and got an implant a few months later. All in all shots were great when the we’re working at lower doses. But I had all I could stand of them. Implant is a slow process to get back to where your totally comfortable and feeling normal, but by 6-8 months after my implant I was pretty much back to original length and now at a year I’m as big as I ever was and bigger in diameter and loving it. Best decision I could have made!

[Hillywilly]

What were the first signs of scarring that you noticed ? How to know you are developing scarring?
I guess if one catches it early before a big damage is done , an implant can be placed anyways?

Frenchie, part of the problem with scarring is it contracts which causes the peyronies. Once it starts it doesn't stop. So if you notice scarring you need to get an implant as quickly as possible because the peyronies is getting worse every day you wait. Just stopping the injections does not stop the progression of the disease.

I know man it sucks but as a really young guy I have to make the most of injections before going for implant. I see some men who have used them for years with no scarring and the literature says only a fraction develop it. But once you get scarring I have two big questions that worry me :
1.Can VED everyday help to maintain the size while you are waiting for the implant?
2. Can the implant itself regain the size lost by scarring and peyronie or it only maintains what you are left before the surgery?

I injected for 1 year maybe a bit over Trimix number 5 and it was AWESOME. Unfortunately, I did develop some scarring I could have continued with injections but I didn't want more scarring.