deflation in stages ?

[BP1024]

wondering if I'm doing something wrong. I hold the Titan buttons the entire time I'm deflating and I pretty much squeeze penis as hard as I can. pump is titan genesis I believe it is like two bars one on either side of the tubes --- I cannot understand how this opens a pathway how does valve works confuses me, I then squeeze my penis as hard as I can. I am not that big but it takes a lot for it to empty and I have to squeeze pretty hard. it seems like I can only get it deflated to a certain point and then if I wait about a half hour I can get some more out of it and then sometimes even a little more out of it another half hour later. it is like 3 stages of deflation pumping up also I can pump wait awhile or do the erito exercise wait a little bit and then pump some more etc but the pumping up doesn't bother me as much as the deflation. it just seems odd that I have to wait a while I don't understand if the fluid is backing up or something I just can't figure it out

worried I am doing something incorrectly it just seems like if it would deflate it would deflate all the way don't know whether it takes time to travel to the reservoir or I'm doing something wrong maybe I'm squeezing the button too hard? any suggestions appreciate it

[FMLFML85]

wondering if I'm doing something wrong. I hold the Titan buttons the entire time I'm deflating and I pretty much squeeze penis as hard as I can. pump is titan genesis I believe it is like two bars one on either side of the tubes --- I cannot understand how this opens a pathway how does valve works confuses me, I then squeeze my penis as hard as I can. I am not that big but it takes a lot for it to empty and I have to squeeze pretty hard. it seems like I can only get it deflated to a certain point and then if I wait about a half hour I can get some more out of it and then sometimes even a little more out of it another half hour later. it is like 3 stages of deflation pumping up also I can pump wait awhile or do the erito exercise wait a little bit and then pump some more etc but the pumping up doesn't bother me as much as the deflation. it just seems odd that I have to wait a while I don't understand if the fluid is backing up or something I just can't figure it out

worried I am doing something incorrectly it just seems like if it would deflate it would deflate all the way don't know whether it takes time to travel to the reservoir or I'm doing something wrong maybe I'm squeezing the button too hard? any suggestions appreciate it

I have the same issue. I try not to completely deflate right away because I’m scared of using to much pressure and damaging the implant. I like to deflate a bit and wait 10 minutes then deflate some more. Having to deflate in stages dosnt bother me and Idd rather do that then use to much force. Sometimes I appply constant pressure to the cylinders with my hand and squeeze the deflate button. So instead of pressing the deflate button and squeezing the cylinders it’s the opposite. I’m pressing ghe cylinders and squeezing the deflate button.

[Lost Sheep]

wondering if I'm doing something wrong. I hold the Titan buttons the entire time I'm deflating and I pretty much squeeze penis as hard as I can. pump is titan genesis I believe it is like two bars one on either side of the tubes --- I cannot understand how this opens a pathway how does valve works confuses me, I then squeeze my penis as hard as I can. I am not that big but it takes a lot for it to empty and I have to squeeze pretty hard. it seems like I can only get it deflated to a certain point and then if I wait about a half hour I can get some more out of it and then sometimes even a little more out of it another half hour later. it is like 3 stages of deflation pumping up also I can pump wait awhile or do the erito exercise wait a little bit and then pump some more etc but the pumping up doesn't bother me as much as the deflation. it just seems odd that I have to wait a while I don't understand if the fluid is backing up or something I just can't figure it out

worried I am doing something incorrectly it just seems like if it would deflate it would deflate all the way don't know whether it takes time to travel to the reservoir or I'm doing something wrong maybe I'm squeezing the button too hard? any suggestions appreciate it

Time delay in moving the fluid is simply not possible. The thing that immediately comes to mind is my experience with my AMS device. I squeeze my penis down (once fluid has stopped moving from implant to reservoir under static pressure) by hand and get more flow. Then, I release my penis and squeeze again. (I don't have to wait as you have described.) I believe that changing my grip position is what allows me to get more fluid flow. Repeating the process a couple more times results in more flow, too, but a little less with each repeat.

Do you think this is what is happening with you?

Note: The AMS deflate valve stays in the "deflate" position all by itself once the valve has been flipped over to the deflate position.

[AmansinCali]

BP,

I can't say I understand what you are going through. I am 3 months implanted and have the same devices you do.

You have to hold pressure on the deflation bar throughout the deflation. If you are pumped to max or close to it you can initially feel and sometimes hear the fluid passing through the valve, as you deflate the rate naturally becomes less, keep in mind the reservoir is above your dick and it will only deflate so far without the aid of squeezing it. You don't have to squeeze it super hard, just enough to force the fluid out. The tubing is fairly small, so at best the rate is slow. I see no reason you can't deflate completely at one time. Everyone says don't worry about hurting the cylinders.

Inflation and deflation both have gotten easier with time.

[Flounder]

I’ve got the same pump as you and only started cycling about 2weeks ago so I’m still learning what works best for me both pumping and deflating. However I did figure out that pumping up is easier when standing or sitting. Deflating works best for me if I lay flat on my back. This way gravity is working with the flow of saline. I should clarify that my reservoir was placed in the ectopic (sub muscular) LH side about the height of my navel. Perhaps if your reservoir is in the Retzius space, my comments about gravity advantage aren’t beneficial.

Also initially, I was squeezing the deflate bars and penis much harder than necessary to deflate. As previously mentioned, the tubes are very small. The saline isn’t going to gush out and I was gaining nothing by trying to force it out quickly. I learned to relax, light steady squeeze, and this way I can fully deflate once and done in the least total time. When I stand up I give it 2+/- pumps or just what it takes to smooth out the cylinders without stretching and good to go.

[Rider1400]

BP1024, you need to update your signature, how long have you been implanted early in for me it was similar to your situation. Now after 7 months of rigorous pumping and perito exercises it’s all much easier. Realize that the portion of your implant that’s inside your body is not getting emptied so when you squeeze it it goes into that area as well as out the small tubes to the reservoir. I found that slow steady squeeze for probably a minute and a half and when it feels like no more fluid is going out you continue to squeeze and push into your body with your hand. This gets mine completely flat to the point it’s flat and uncomfortable. So I stop when squeezing it feels empty. Also agree with previous post, much easier to deflate while laying down and easier to inflate standing up. After 6-7 months it all gets much softer and easier. Wish I could find the video with Dr Eid. He says the actual implants are virtually indestructible! Nearly all failures are from tubing and a few from pumps. Seems like he said he had only seen an actual failure in a tube part of the implant once or twice in all the years. I was fearful at first but now I’m aggressive with bending and pumping and it’s give. Me back my full length and more girth!

[BP1024]

thank you for the input. I will keep trying. I have Dr appt sched tomorrow. sounds like they will tell me to chill out basically.

I think that the comments about the smaller tubes make sense more than anything. that's kind of the sense I am getting is like there's back pressure. I am just surprised that if the valves open the fluid doesn't move through there easier. also squeezing the tabd that runs across the tubes so to speak the bars as they are called here just seemed so counterintuitive because it seems as if I would be squishing shot the tube also especially if I pressed too hard. I have tried to look at the design of the valve and understand how it works. roughly I do but still it seems as if I would squeeze so hard I would block it and I'm worried I'm doing that. anyway I will have a review by a professional tomorrow. thanks again

[BP1024]

yes I think maybe I have been squeezing them much harder than necessary it's just strange not knowing whether you've got it right or not especially after the initial deflate it's hard to tell if it's still deflating. really appreciate the input thank you.

Also initially, I was squeezing the deflate bars and penis much harder than necessary to deflate. As previously mentioned, the tubes are very small. The saline isn’t going to gush out and I was gaining nothing by trying to force it out quickly. I learned to relax, light steady squeeze, and this way I can fully deflate once and done in the least total time. When I stand up I give it 2+/- pumps or just what it takes to smooth out the cylinders without stretching and good to go.[/quote]

[CigareVolant]

I've also noticed that it's easier to deflate in stages. My theory is that it takes a while for the spongy parts of my penis to go down. I mean the parts outside the implant like the head and the area around the urethra. Both of those areas can swell with arousal. Then when those go down, it's easier to squeeze right to fully deflate the implant. Who knows. I just know it's more comfortable and seems to work better if I wait a while to fully deflate.

[Discovernew]

I’ve got the same pump as you and only started cycling about 2weeks ago so I’m still learning what works best for me both pumping and deflating. However I did figure out that pumping up is easier when standing or sitting. Deflating works best for me if I lay flat on my back. This way gravity is working with the flow of saline. I should clarify that my reservoir was placed in the ectopic (sub muscular) LH side about the height of my navel. Perhaps if your reservoir is in the Retzius space, my comments about gravity advantage aren’t beneficial.

Also initially, I was squeezing the deflate bars and penis much harder than necessary to deflate. As previously mentioned, the tubes are very small. The saline isn’t going to gush out and I was gaining nothing by trying to force it out quickly. I learned to relax, light steady squeeze, and this way I can fully deflate once and done in the least total time. When I stand up I give it 2+/- pumps or just what it takes to smooth out the cylinders without stretching and good to go.

Hi, do you think with the ectopic reservoir location, you can feel the reservoir? could anyone see it or feel it if they touch?
Also are you lean?

I am quite lean and have a six pack, and i cannot get the traditional placement because of double inguinal hernia mesh, so i am considering surgery with this kind of placement now.

any feedback is welcome!