Why is an implant "last resort"?

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.
1380anthony
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby 1380anthony » Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:05 pm

Witheringhog wrote:
ctcolantro wrote:Just a question for all of you out there. I think it's absurd that an implant is the very LAST choice for most. Even on FT, the Implants board is described as the final frontier. I'm not saying that it should be pushed on everyone with ED, but to purposely exhaust every single option before going with an implant seems wrong. To go through multiple disappointments by way of chemical treatments, and put on hold a solid performing biomechanical solution?


I dont think it should be, the implant is fing amazing, orgasms last three times as long, way more intense. I have read some hard recoverys but I haven’t read any where people just said f it, had it removed and their junk never worked again… and we are on a board where people post problems.

Now, some people lose length and some lose girth, and some people take months and months before being able to comfortably use them. My recovery was easy, i could be singing a different toon if i was still in massive pain 3 months later. My thoughts are if you dont have a bunch of scaring/ peyronies you have a very high chance of being over the moon happy.

I dont like putting chemicals in my body, so totally with you on that line of thinking.


I have mild scar tissue " corporal fibrosis" it is causing me secondary venous leak because the tissue lost elasticity. I believe I should get an implant asap, but Im not mentally prepared.

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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby oldbeek » Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:41 pm

WHY??? Because nothing is better than a BLOOD FILLED THROBBING DICK for pleasure. It was only 10 months between when I had a THROBBING DICK and this half ass popsicle on a stick. I enjoy what I have now and it is all I can get, but I sure miss that old blood filled purple dick that felt like it was going to explode when I came.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby younggun1 » Wed Aug 02, 2023 1:54 pm

I agree. It's a complete ED solution and allows for spontaneity.

It makes sense to kick the bucket on pills but if your erection isn't satisfactory with that, I think the implant should definitely top of mind.

I don't have an implant yet so can't fully speak on it but I think it's just scary to people because you can't go back. It would help normalize and get over fear if implant wasn't always labeled as this ominous "last resort."

I'm trying to make sure it's the right decision personally but limping along with pills does not seem ideal when an automatic, hard, long-lasting erection solution is available.

I also think doctors try to play devil's advocate sometimes so that you don't have cold feet or buyers remorse as well.

But I'm starting to think the fear and hesitation with implants is less warranted than reality. You guys tell me.
32. Austin, Texas.

Witheringhog
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby Witheringhog » Wed Aug 02, 2023 2:45 pm

younggun1 wrote:I agree. It's a complete ED solution and allows for spontaneity.

It makes sense to kick the bucket on pills but if your erection isn't satisfactory with that, I think the implant should definitely top of mind.

I don't have an implant yet so can't fully speak on it but I think it's just scary to people because you can't go back. It would help normalize and get over fear if implant wasn't always labeled as this ominous "last resort."

I'm trying to make sure it's the right decision personally but limping along with pills does not seem ideal when an automatic, hard, long-lasting erection solution is available.

I also think doctors try to play devil's advocate sometimes so that you don't have cold feet or buyers remorse as well.

But I'm starting to think the fear and hesitation with implants is less warranted than reality. You guys tell me.


For me, the implant is just better. I would take it over my natural dick any day of the week… and at any point in my life, the implant is better. Now if i had my recovery time, like 18-40 with an implant, omg, that would be the best of both worlds. I used to be able to orgasm 10-15 times a day, now two is tuff.
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OysterDude
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby OysterDude » Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:49 pm

For me it wasn't the last resort.. it was the best "choice". I could've not made a choice, and remain with a dead dick, or choose a solution that turned out to be the best decision I could have ever made. Tomorrow is the 1 year of getting green lighted by Dr. Blick for sex, three weeks after implant (see bio below), and it's been an unbelievable ride for both of us, pun intended.
The usual pills, injections of increasing strength until the ache was too much and ineffective. 66 yrs old. Implanted 7/14/22 Dr Blick, Scottsdale. AMS CX 21cm+2cmRTE. Infrapubic. Back in the saddle 8/3/21. We could not be happier with the result!

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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby Blankloads69 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:13 pm

I know that there are insurances which won't cover any implant costs if pills and injections haven't yet been attempted by the patient.
Bio: 33-year-old prior sufferer of organic ED.
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Infrapubic method
(2/22): AMS 700LGX 15cm + 5cm rte. 65ml res.
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby younggun1 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:31 pm

Witheringhog wrote:
younggun1 wrote:I agree. It's a complete ED solution and allows for spontaneity.

It makes sense to kick the bucket on pills but if your erection isn't satisfactory with that, I think the implant should definitely top of mind.

I don't have an implant yet so can't fully speak on it but I think it's just scary to people because you can't go back. It would help normalize and get over fear if implant wasn't always labeled as this ominous "last resort."

I'm trying to make sure it's the right decision personally but limping along with pills does not seem ideal when an automatic, hard, long-lasting erection solution is available.

I also think doctors try to play devil's advocate sometimes so that you don't have cold feet or buyers remorse as well.

But I'm starting to think the fear and hesitation with implants is less warranted than reality. You guys tell me.


For me, the implant is just better. I would take it over my natural dick any day of the week… and at any point in my life, the implant is better. Now if i had my recovery time, like 18-40 with an implant, omg, that would be the best of both worlds. I used to be able to orgasm 10-15 times a day, now two is tuff.


Damn. I'm thinking it would be the right move for me but I'm a tweener so it's hard bc I'm trying to make sure I'm not jumping the gun and Clavell is like "you want to be sure bc you can't go back." Are you saying I should just pull the trigger? It's that good? I definitely want to but trying to think it through since I'm 31.

ED is a bitch, especially when you're in the middle of Austin, TX surrounded by babes
32. Austin, Texas.

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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby Witheringhog » Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:19 pm

younggun1 wrote:
Witheringhog wrote:
younggun1 wrote:I agree. It's a complete ED solution and allows for spontaneity.

It makes sense to kick the bucket on pills but if your erection isn't satisfactory with that, I think the implant should definitely top of mind.

I don't have an implant yet so can't fully speak on it but I think it's just scary to people because you can't go back. It would help normalize and get over fear if implant wasn't always labeled as this ominous "last resort."

I'm trying to make sure it's the right decision personally but limping along with pills does not seem ideal when an automatic, hard, long-lasting erection solution is available.

I also think doctors try to play devil's advocate sometimes so that you don't have cold feet or buyers remorse as well.

But I'm starting to think the fear and hesitation with implants is less warranted than reality. You guys tell me.


For me, the implant is just better. I would take it over my natural dick any day of the week… and at any point in my life, the implant is better. Now if i had my recovery time, like 18-40 with an implant, omg, that would be the best of both worlds. I used to be able to orgasm 10-15 times a day, now two is tuff.


Damn. I'm thinking it would be the right move for me but I'm a tweener so it's hard bc I'm trying to make sure I'm not jumping the gun and Clavell is like "you want to be sure bc you can't go back." Are you saying I should just pull the trigger? It's that good? I definitely want to but trying to think it through since I'm 31.

ED is a bitch, especially when you're in the middle of Austin, TX surrounded by babes


If you could have the same recovery as I had, then its a no brainer, get it ASAP... but that's the thing, there was a dude who had surgery right before me with Clavell and had a heck of a time with recovery and is still working hard to regain length. The satisfaction rate seems to be around 92-98 percent depending on what online info you look at, to me, that seems very high and gave me piece of mind to jump in. Worst case scenario you get an infection, that's way less than a 1% chance, the other few percent of people who are unhappy... they lost length or girth and or they had a shit ton of pain/needed a revision.

You're young, that's a huge plus, odds are you will heal better than most here. The other piece is, are you the type of person that feels alot of pain, if you jamb your finger or sprain an ankle, do you whine non stop about it.... if pain sucks for you then just be prepared cuz you will have pain for 4-6 weeks. For me that pain was like a jammed finger, it was there but no big deal. I am sure you have read other experiences that are not good, going to the ER for pain, can't sleep etc... I didn't have any of that so I am way more positive then maybe???? I should be. It's a tuff call, but if your dick doesn't work now, imagine given 96% odds that your dick will never fail you again. And all that mental baggage that comes with ED will be gone for ever and you will have a new confidence that you could make every chick in Austin tap out before you went soft.
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby Randalltx » Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:21 pm

For me, wish I had done it earlier. Did not because I did not really know about the option.

Age 40-60 had a functrioning dick as long as I did not take too long to finish. Sound familiar?
Age 60-70 wife having typical lack of lube and thinning issues. My venous leak gets worse.
Age 70 Wife announces she cannot do sex anymore due to pain like sandpaper with every stroke.
age 73- Discussed possible solutions with wife. Both on board immediately
age 75- Requested and received implant after more than one of my regular docs told me to quit screwing around and get it done.

Wife at this time solved her issues with PT and RX, Toys, Furniture, better lube and a great point of view.
Full bore sex resumed as though we were much younger save a few position issues.

You want confidence, stamina, and abilities few men have? Implant did that for me. I see thirty year old guys and chuckle at them lasting 5 minutes if she is lucky. I go 45 minutes or longer. Can go longer but usually don't want to make her too sore.

Without the implant, ED will keep on keeping on and you will lose length continuously. When you then get an implant later, you will honestly believe the surgeon implanting you cost you length. In reality waiting caused atrophy and did it to you.

FYI we are both on testosterone, she is on some rx cream manually applied. Lots of lube, lots of play toys, play time and lots of time to explore.

You will probably end up getting the implant sometime. Meanwhile, it's a struggle, a worry, and uncertainty every time you try to have sex. I got tired of that. And a wife permanently declining sex will f you up for a long while.

Getting a sex swing in a few days to solve some position, joint, and age issues. She is pretending to not want it while at the same time researching how to best use it.

Now that is my California Girl. Wish they all could be. (Beach Boys Song)

Randy
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@14 months 7.50L x 7.25/Flaccid 6.0L x 6.0

ctcolantro
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Re: Why is an implant "last resort"?

Postby ctcolantro » Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:32 am

Wow, some really great responses. I think that an implant being the last "option" has given it the almost desperate sounding "last resort" title, and with it, an undue stigma. Imagine if it was presented, along with all of the available data, statistics, etc. when FIRST creating a treatment plan. I think for many of us it would have been the first option, but that's with some hindsight. I never did injections (non-starter for me) and muddled through pills and their various side effects for years before finally getting the implant.
Implanted 12/15/22. 44. AMS LGX 21+2 Shawn Blick in Phoenix. Happy to share my experiences with anyone who is interested.


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