Titan vs LGX at full length

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newhope
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Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby newhope » Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:33 am

I am wondering if length-wise at full expansion which are the correlation.

Considering the LGX expansion, does a LGX 18 cm (that full inflation should correspond to a 21 cm) corresponds more or a less to a Titan of 20+1 (21cm total)?

In other words a LGX 18 cm should give the same erection to a titan 20-21 cm ? Or I am missing something?
LGX 18 + 1, 90 cc. 2023/12
Pre-OP VED length: 5.5". Post-OP: 4". At 3 months post-op: 5".
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby stmfttr » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:11 am

newhope wrote:I am wondering if length-wise at full expansion which are the correlation.

Considering the LGX expansion, does a LGX 18 cm (that full inflation should correspond to a 21 cm) corresponds more or a less to a Titan of 20+1 (21cm total)?

In other words a LGX 18 cm should give the same erection to a titan 20-21 cm ? Or I am missing something?


Newhope,
I'm not sure if I understand your question. Whichever device you and your implant surgeon decide on, either Boston Scientific or Coloplast, the length is determined during the implant procedure. The measurements are acquired after the surgeon opens the corpora. The surgeon will install the correct length tubing, no guess work.
stmfttr
78 - Married 54 years - Coloplast Titan, 22cm and no RTE's - Installed June 2019 Nebraska Medicine, Dr. Deibert (urologist/surgeon)
Update: Replaced implant due to pump failure. New implant Nov.19th, 2024 - Coloplast Titan w/OTR pump - 22cm + 1cm RTE

newhope
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby newhope » Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:46 am

Since the LGX 18 expands to 21 cm I was wondering which were the corresponding measure of titan or CX since they dont expand in length.

If math doesnt fail me, a LGX 18 should be equal to a titan of 21 cm upon full inflation

I know that the measurements are made during the op
LGX 18 + 1, 90 cc. 2023/12
Pre-OP VED length: 5.5". Post-OP: 4". At 3 months post-op: 5".
Cycling with a lot of pain for the first 5 months, now improving
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:23 am

newhope wrote:Since the LGX 18 expands to 21 cm I was wondering which were the corresponding measure of titan or CX since they dont expand in length.

If math doesnt fail me, a LGX 18 should be equal to a titan of 21 cm upon full inflation

I know that the measurements are made during the op

The first sentence contains your error. Not ALL of an implant is made of material that can stretch. But your math is done show that it ALL does stretch. There is some lenght at both ends of the implants that are made of harder material that can not stretch.

So yes, your math does fail you. What if the LGX 18cm only has 15cm of stretchable material? What does the math now say?
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

newhope
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby newhope » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:23 am

Gt19, probably you misunderstood my question. But let's wait also other opinions.

BTW I am talking about all evidences that the LGX 18 cm expands to about 20-21 cm in length: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... /table/T1/ and many other threads here on Franktalk
LGX 18 + 1, 90 cc. 2023/12
Pre-OP VED length: 5.5". Post-OP: 4". At 3 months post-op: 5".
Cycling with a lot of pain for the first 5 months, now improving
If you have a motorcycle or a bike stop using it (ED with motorcycle accident).

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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby Rider1400 » Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:32 am

I think I understand the question. Consider if Dr measured you for a 21cm length he would absolutely have to use whatever size extends to that length at full pressure. So it wouldn’t matter which brand he used other than the one that expands more would leave you with a shorter flaccid. If your measurement was18cm and he installed a cylinder that measured 18cm but expanded to 21cm you would be oversized. Just food for thought.
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong and loving it!

merrix
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby merrix » Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:26 am

That is an interesting question.
Logic would tell me, just as it told Rider1400, that if an 18 cm LGX expands to 21 cm when inflated, it should be the equivalent (option) of a Titan 20 +1m RTE.
The LGX does, according to the study I posted earlier (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/) grow ~3 cm when inflated.
This of course, is not depending on how long the fixed part of the implant is (which by the way is ~5 cm).
That means an 18 cm LGX has 5 cm fixed part and 13 cm inflatable part. The inflatable part will expand to 16 cm and the fixed part will remain 5 cm for a total inflated length of 5+16=21 cm.
The Titan 20 cm with 1 cm RTE will have 5+1=6 cm fixed part and 20-5=15 cm inflatable part which will be 21 cm in both deflated and inflated state.

So for sure, the logic would be that if a doc measures one patient on the surgery table and concludes he needs a 21 cm long implant, his options would be an 18 cm LGX or a 20+1 Titan.

But - I am fairly certain I have read from what I considered a credible source that this is not the case.
A doc will in the case I just made up above choose between the Titan 20+1 or the LGX 21.

To me this is hard to believe, since if the man with room for a 21 cm implant gets an LGX 21 cm, the implant will start to expand from the first pump.
His dick will for sure not grow 3 cm, so either he won't be able to inflate very aggressively, or the implant will not grow more in length when inflated than there is room for.
The 3 cm growth from the article is in a lab, not in a dick.
Maybe it is just that simple, that the potential length expansion is 3 cm, but if there is only room for 0.5 cm, it will expand 0.5 cm in length, but continue to get harder with each pump.
This would provide some kind of insurance that the implant will be there to grow with its host dick if needed.
It would also provide some slack for a surgeon, that it doesn't matter that much if he is conservative when sizing. The implant has 3 cm insurance.
Which actually was indirectly what I remember my doc told me. That an AMS LGX will be easier for a doc to install, and hence why it is more popular than Titans among low-volume docs.
One reason as well being the thinner fixed part of the implant, and the thinner RTEs, which makes it easier to install the implant deep down in the crus compared to the Titans thicker fixed part and RTEs.
According to him though, the thinner fixed part in the crus can/will eventually lead to the wobble effect due to a looser fit in the crus after some wear and tear.

Unfortunately I cannot remember the source of the theory behind the statement that the LGX 21 indeed is the equivalent option of a 20+1 Titan (or that the LGX 21+1 is the equivalent option of a Titan 22), but I have a very clear memory of reading it and accepting the source as trustworthy.

Maybe someone on here can shed some light..?
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newhope
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Re: Titan vs LGX at full length

Postby newhope » Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:16 am

From what I can say personally, reading the surgical notes, my doc measured me 16+3 (19 cm total) and he installed me a LGX 18+1.

So if he stretched me to the max (which I hope) he didn't subtract any cm from my implant. Altho I don't understand how i can measure 16+3 (it seems kind of weird measuremnet, I will need to ask him a clarification).
LGX 18 + 1, 90 cc. 2023/12
Pre-OP VED length: 5.5". Post-OP: 4". At 3 months post-op: 5".
Cycling with a lot of pain for the first 5 months, now improving
If you have a motorcycle or a bike stop using it (ED with motorcycle accident).


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