Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

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Hope84
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Hope84 » Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:55 pm

tobenormalagain wrote:
Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:I too am a malleable implantee (Tactra) at age 57yo. Not to knock them either, but I say if air travel had the same success rates as IPP implants, no one ever step foot on an airplane again.


But you can always get a new IPP if it fails, it is not like you can "run out" of revision surgeries. I have yet to come across someone on this forum who claims to be in this situation. Plus the idea of having a constant boner with a malleable, along with the risks of erosion that come with it, are off putting for me.

Age is also a factor. I just turned 30 and will most likely get an IPP before the end of the year. If I can get 20 years of implants (with, say, 2 revisions, so 3 implants in total, which is I believe quite pessimistic), then I would be happy to switch to a malleable at that age. But not now.




You surely realize that every surgery and possible subsequent revision, come with significant risks (infection, component failure, risks associated with anesthesia…), not to mention pain, time to recover…?


- Serious complications from general anesthesia are extremely rare, I have yet to see a FT member report any sort of issue related to anesthesia.
- Pain and time to recover I can deal with, and the lion's share of people report a much smoother recovery with their revision(s) compared to the first surgery.
- Infections are rare and for the most part well dealt with by the medical team. What @niceguy1 has gone through is, from his own words, very rare. In most cases, after an infection occurs, the patient receives a new IPP after the infection has been clean, and in some cases, a malleable. An explantation resulting in no implant for several months is very rare.

I do see merits in malleable for sure, I just think that the odds are overall stacked in your favor if you opt for an IPP, assuming that your erections are very unsatisfactory (like me)/non-existent to start with, that you choose a top-notch surgeon, that you enter this surgery in great physical shape, and that your rigorously follow the doctor's rules.

I would be curious to hear other implanted members' perspective on this.
30 years old French with ED caused by priapism episodes at the age of 15. Pills have lost most of their potency, injections work but are painful and not a long-term solution. Scheduled for an AMS 700 CX on 05/12/2024.

ready2go
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby ready2go » Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:40 pm

Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:
Hope84 wrote:

- Serious complications from general anesthesia are extremely rare, I have yet to see a FT member report any sort of issue related to anesthesia.
- Pain and time to recover I can deal with, and the lion's share of people report a much smoother recovery with their revision(s) compared to the first surgery.
- Infections are rare and for the most part well dealt with by the medical team. What @niceguy1 has gone through is, from his own words, very rare. In most cases, after an infection occurs, the patient receives a new IPP after the infection has been clean, and in some cases, a malleable. An explantation resulting in no implant for several months is very rare.

I do see merits in malleable for sure, I just think that the odds are overall stacked in your favor if you opt for an IPP, assuming that your erections are very unsatisfactory (like me)/non-existent to start with, that you choose a top-notch surgeon, that you enter this surgery in great physical shape, and that your rigorously follow the doctor's rules.

I would be curious to hear other implanted members' perspective on this.



i could have gotten a ipp for 8k , i just didn't want one . each to their own . the one advantage of a ipp is the possibility to regain size . .but the pumping and the common malfucntions and the months of recovery . all a hard pass for me .
but i cant compare since i havent had a ipp .
although some have had both and have a malleable now because of the issues with the ipp and prefer the malleable . either way good luck with what is choosing
my one beef is the loss of girth . it seems they could just make a thicker rod for the malleable , but what do i know ? maybe that would cause some kind of issues

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby wolfpacker » Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:25 pm

ready2go wrote:
Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:



i could have gotten a ipp for 8k , i just didn't want one . each to their own . the one advantage of a ipp is the possibility to regain size . .but the pumping and the common malfucntions and the months of recovery . all a hard pass for me .
but i cant compare since i havent had a ipp .
although some have had both and have a malleable now because of the issues with the ipp and prefer the malleable . either way good luck with what is choosing
my one beef is the loss of girth . it seems they could just make a thicker rod for the malleable , but what do i know ? maybe that would cause some kind of issues


It does cause issues to have a thicker malleable rod yes, there's a study out there that shows that 14mm diameter malleable rods have much greater chance of complications than 11mm diameter. But inflatable can go up to 21mm no problem
Early 30s with ED for years from penis enlargement stretching and jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

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tobenormalagain
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby tobenormalagain » Fri Oct 11, 2024 5:17 am

Hope84 wrote:
tobenormalagain wrote:
Hope84 wrote:
But you can always get a new IPP if it fails, it is not like you can "run out" of revision surgeries. I have yet to come across someone on this forum who claims to be in this situation. Plus the idea of having a constant boner with a malleable, along with the risks of erosion that come with it, are off putting for me.

Age is also a factor. I just turned 30 and will most likely get an IPP before the end of the year. If I can get 20 years of implants (with, say, 2 revisions, so 3 implants in total, which is I believe quite pessimistic), then I would be happy to switch to a malleable at that age. But not now.




You surely realize that every surgery and possible subsequent revision, come with significant risks (infection, component failure, risks associated with anesthesia…), not to mention pain, time to recover…?


- Serious complications from general anesthesia are extremely rare, I have yet to see a FT member report any sort of issue related to anesthesia.
- Pain and time to recover I can deal with, and the lion's share of people report a much smoother recovery with their revision(s) compared to the first surgery.
- Infections are rare and for the most part well dealt with by the medical team. What @niceguy1 has gone through is, from his own words, very rare. In most cases, after an infection occurs, the patient receives a new IPP after the infection has been clean, and in some cases, a malleable. An explantation resulting in no implant for several months is very rare.

I do see merits in malleable for sure, I just think that the odds are overall stacked in your favor if you opt for an IPP, assuming that your erections are very unsatisfactory (like me)/non-existent to start with, that you choose a top-notch surgeon, that you enter this surgery in great physical shape, and that your rigorously follow the doctor's rules.

I would be curious to hear other implanted members' perspective on this.




I work in medicine (surgery) and you are misinformed. Anesthetic complications are uncommon, however, when they do occur, they can be life threatening, especially with patients with multiple comorbidities. Also, implant infections aren't just quickly treated and another implant inserted and life resumes as before. I encourage you to do more research on this forum and read the numerous first-hand account of this scenario resulting in protracted recovery periods, much pain, and a great deal of convalescence.

Rahulrigi10
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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Rahulrigi10 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:51 am

easymoney wrote:You have to grasp a mallabble at it's base with one hand fingers underneath it and on top of it .. then grasp your penis with the other had and bend it downwards using the hand at the base as a fulcrum point to get it to bend .. I have a Rigicon was told by my surgeon that each time I shower ot bend it up ..down ..and sideways .. supposed to help it loosen the hinge point..


Hii , I have also been implanted with rigi 10 implant , when you started bending yours as I have been implanted before 3 weeks and I am not able to bend it downwords,

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Rahulrigi10 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:53 pm

easymoney wrote:Good deal I'm glad you are getting so much use out of it .. you are the envy of many on here I'm sure including me .. I'm hoping to road test my Rigicon in the near future I can tell anyone curious that it works for anal sex with no issues .. heard different stories how it was no firm enough I had no issues whatsoever ..

Hii, can you tell weather you have started bending your implant yet, if yes since when after surgery you started bending it

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Rahulrigi10 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:52 pm

ready2go wrote:
GermanGuy wrote:I am more or less convinced of a malleable implant, it is just not so easy to choose because almost all doctors only push IPPs and on the internet every brand markets its model best... here too there are both positive and negative reports for almost every model Rigicon Rigi10, Coloplast Genesis and Boston Scientific Spectra/Tactra…


in the states they push the ipp as if its invincible and the only way to go . But not in other countries . You would get no arguments in india over a malleable .
im not bashimg ipp's . they have their good points but also the chances of malfunctions ,and a possible long recovery period .
Malleables on the other hand , a negative is no possibility of regaining size with inflations{for me that's the only negative AND ..loosing 1 inch in girth :[ ,that sucks ...} ,but there is virtually no malfunctions ,its ready to go on demand 24/7 , just grab and bend it up . And my recovery was a breeze . i only had sensitive glans for about 3 ,4 weeks, no swelling or pain . i have had mine for 7 months and 3 different girls have used to go to happy town and come back for more

Hi I had rigi 10 malleable implant 2 and half week before and also facing sensitive glans issue , can u elaborate ur case and how you managed, my case is even I am not able to tolerate underwear pressure because of glans sensitivity and there is pinching pain is there. Once remove underwear means everything is fine, now because of this I started keeping my glans above underwear strap,

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby ready2go » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:16 pm

in the states they push the ipp as if its invincible and the only way to go . But not in other countries . You would get no arguments in india over a malleable .
im not bashimg ipp's . they have their good points but also the chances of malfunctions ,and a possible long recovery period .
Malleables on the other hand , a negative is no possibility of regaining size with inflations{for me that's the only negative AND ..loosing 1 inch in girth :[ ,that sucks ...} ,but there is virtually no malfunctions ,its ready to go on demand 24/7 , just grab and bend it up . And my recovery was a breeze . i only had sensitive glans for about 3 ,4 weeks, no swelling or pain . i have had mine for 7 months and 3 different girls have used to go to happy town and come back for more[/quote]
Hi I had rigi 10 malleable implant 2 and half week before and also facing sensitive glans issue , can u elaborate ur case and how you managed, my case is even I am not able to tolerate underwear pressure because of glans sensitivity and there is pinching pain is there. Once remove underwear means everything is fine, now because of this I started keeping my glans above underwear strap,[/quote]

the glans sensitivity lasted 3 or 4 weeks . After that if I bumped it on ,say the motorcycle seat getting on it was not a good feeling . But that is gone now too .
I cut off the end of a pair of socks to put over the glans for extra padding , i would think you will be ok in a few more weeks .
Regarding bending it , what cant you bend? just down in general? the only place its meant to be bent is at the base , "the hinge". pulled up for sex . pushed down for storage ,haha i had mine inserted from the scrotum ,not on the shaft end as i have seen some done .
i would think if cut at the shaft that might cause pain there when trying to bend it . im just guessing on that though .
myself, i had no problem bending it in any position from day one .
in fact, it lays in the down position on its own and did so also on the first day. Down as in across the front of the balls to the left . in the up position , i need to hold it there . it does not stick straight out while im standing, after i have pulled it up . when im laying on my back it will stay up, but lean to either side . If I'm wearing swim trunks ,then it shows a little to much and ill put it between my balls and my leg .

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby LastHope » Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:47 pm

ready2go wrote: it lays in the down position on its own and did so also on the first day


Wow, you are lucky. So your default angle is 5 o'clock? If someone has a default angle of 2 o'clock after surgery, it will require a lot of bend cycles to develop bend memory, correct?

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Re: Inflatable vs Malleable - My Experience with Both & Infection

Postby Rahulrigi10 » Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:22 am

ready2go wrote:in the states they push the ipp as if its invincible and the only way to go . But not in other countries . You would get no arguments in india over a malleable .
im not bashimg ipp's . they have their good points but also the chances of malfunctions ,and a possible long recovery period .
Malleables on the other hand , a negative is no possibility of regaining size with inflations{for me that's the only negative AND ..loosing 1 inch in girth :[ ,that sucks ...} ,but there is virtually no malfunctions ,its ready to go on demand 24/7 , just grab and bend it up . And my recovery was a breeze . i only had sensitive glans for about 3 ,4 weeks, no swelling or pain . i have had mine for 7 months and 3 different girls have used to go to happy town and come back for more

Hi I had rigi 10 malleable implant 2 and half week before and also facing sensitive glans issue , can u elaborate ur case and how you managed, my case is even I am not able to tolerate underwear pressure because of glans sensitivity and there is pinching pain is there. Once remove underwear means everything is fine, now because of this I started keeping my glans above underwear strap,[/quote]

the glans sensitivity lasted 3 or 4 weeks . After that if I bumped it on ,say the motorcycle seat getting on it was not a good feeling . But that is gone now too .
I cut off the end of a pair of socks to put over the glans for extra padding , i would think you will be ok in a few more weeks .
Regarding bending it , what cant you bend? just down in general? the only place its meant to be bent is at the base , "the hinge". pulled up for sex . pushed down for storage ,haha i had mine inserted from the scrotum ,not on the shaft end as i have seen some done .
i would think if cut at the shaft that might cause pain there when trying to bend it . im just guessing on that though .
myself, i had no problem bending it in any position from day one .
in fact, it lays in the down position on its own and did so also on the first day. Down as in across the front of the balls to the left . in the up position , i need to hold it there . it does not stick straight out while im standing, after i have pulled it up . when im laying on my back it will stay up, but lean to either side . If I'm wearing swim trunks ,then it shows a little to much and ill put it between my balls and my leg .[/quote]

Thank you very much for insights , I will try that sock thing, really suffering from sensitivity of the glans. As implant has been inserted through saft by penile scortum cut, may be because of that I am not able to bend it downwords


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