Pursuing implant at 18

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returntocenter
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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby returntocenter » Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:51 am

Aemill wrote:Personally, I would really take implant as a last resort. Once the tissue is destroyed there is no coming back. I think you might over idolise the treatment as ipp. It is different to natural erection. You might get infection, undersizee, lose glands engorgemenet and so on and on.

If pills and cockring work for you, I would use them together until they dont work. Some ft members have to use pills and cockring after implant to have sex. Some have to you the ved after implant to get blood there.


How happy are you with your implant? Also, what is your erect length now/how much did you lose, if any?
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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby TheDongDangler » Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:52 am

newhope wrote:just one tip, considering your young age i would go with rigicon since it has a lifetime warranty. You will need many revisions at your age



I don’t like my Shitticon should have got a tactra more hard, tactra is hard as fuck and for someone like me with a larger penile would have ideal
Rigicon MALLEABLE
20 cm + 0.5cm RTE
11 mm diameter rods
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Pre-Op penile length: 7.9 inches length, 4.75 inches girth
Post-Op penile length: 7.5 inches length, 4.5 inches girth
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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby Txagq8 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:04 am

I’ve told you this before but it bears repeating.

I’m sympathetic to your issues. I suffered from ED at your age but wasn’t aware anything was wrong. When the only erectile you have any experience with you is your own, it becomes the norm.

I was diagnosed at 29. There were no pills back then.

I’m notorious for saying what I think, so I’ll do it again. I believe if you try to proceed directly to an implant at your age without giving injections a good faith try you are a damned fool.

Let’s put this into a medical analogy. Let’s say you have a skin cancer-a basal cell carcinoma. The treatment of choice is to remove the tumor and stitch up the hole that was left. You don’t rush to bombard patient with radiation and chemotherapy unless it becomes necessary.

Popping your dick with an insulin needle and a few droplets of trimix isn’t a big deal. I should know. I did it for 32 years.

You weren’t even alive in 1987 but the implants available would have left me permanently tied to about a 5x4 inch dick and a malleable implant. Better than no sex but hey, I’m male, and I enjoy having a somewhat larger cock.

Injections made me longer, thicker, gave me very reliable sex for nearly 30 years. Only in the last few years of taking shots did the medication become less effective. If I wanted to Jack off I didn’t need a shot, I’d just use a cock ring and if I list my erection temporarily it’s not like I was disappointing some girl or that I needed to be fully rigid.

My biggest fear about implanting an 18 year old would be you aren’t done growing yet. The first implant truly was a piece of cake. Zero complications, like a hernia repair or vasectomy (well except for a bruised dick & nutsack). But each subsequent revision brings with it a new and increasing risk of infection. Bacterial colonies do set up on implants, antibiotic coating notwithstanding…and a replacement is down the road. It might last 15-25 years but eventually it’s gonna fail.

And one other thing…..if you’re headed to Texas to talk to Clavell you might put Bryan Kansas on your list. Unless you’re Jonah Falcon and have to have a Titan (Kansas is an AMS guy) he’s really good, his staff is even better, and he offers among the lowest self pay packages out there. When this 18+5 LGX quits my plan is for him to put in a 21+4 CX or special order me a 24 cm CX plus RTEs by the end of the day.

Yeah, an implant is great. But so we’re injections. Refusing to give them a try smacks of immaturity. Yes, it’s ok to be 18. But at 18 you lack a bit of wisdom some of us have acquired fighting ED for a lot longer than you’ve been alive.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby TheDongDangler » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:35 pm

Txagq8 wrote:I’ve told you this before but it bears repeating.

I’m sympathetic to your issues. I suffered from ED at your age but wasn’t aware anything was wrong. When the only erectile you have any experience with you is your own, it becomes the norm.

I was diagnosed at 29. There were no pills back then.

I’m notorious for saying what I think, so I’ll do it again. I believe if you try to proceed directly to an implant at your age without giving injections a good faith try you are a damned fool.

Let’s put this into a medical analogy. Let’s say you have a skin cancer-a basal cell carcinoma. The treatment of choice is to remove the tumor and stitch up the hole that was left. You don’t rush to bombard patient with radiation and chemotherapy unless it becomes necessary.

Popping your dick with an insulin needle and a few droplets of trimix isn’t a big deal. I should know. I did it for 32 years.

You weren’t even alive in 1987 but the implants available would have left me permanently tied to about a 5x4 inch dick and a malleable implant. Better than no sex but hey, I’m male, and I enjoy having a somewhat larger cock.

Injections made me longer, thicker, gave me very reliable sex for nearly 30 years. Only in the last few years of taking shots did the medication become less effective. If I wanted to Jack off I didn’t need a shot, I’d just use a cock ring and if I list my erection temporarily it’s not like I was disappointing some girl or that I needed to be fully rigid.

My biggest fear about implanting an 18 year old would be you aren’t done growing yet. The first implant truly was a piece of cake. Zero complications, like a hernia repair or vasectomy (well except for a bruised dick & nutsack). But each subsequent revision brings with it a new and increasing risk of infection. Bacterial colonies do set up on implants, antibiotic coating notwithstanding…and a replacement is down the road. It might last 15-25 years but eventually it’s gonna fail.

And one other thing…..if you’re headed to Texas to talk to Clavell you might put Bryan Kansas on your list. Unless you’re Jonah Falcon and have to have a Titan (Kansas is an AMS guy) he’s really good, his staff is even better, and he offers among the lowest self pay packages out there. When this 18+5 LGX quits my plan is for him to put in a 21+4 CX or special order me a 24 cm CX plus RTEs by the end of the day.

Yeah, an implant is great. But so we’re injections. Refusing to give them a try smacks of immaturity. Yes, it’s ok to be 18. But at 18 you lack a bit of wisdom some of us have acquired fighting ED for a lot longer than you’ve been alive.



I am 23 I did the Trimix shots for several years they stopped working they may work for you for some people it can induce peyronies
Rigicon MALLEABLE
20 cm + 0.5cm RTE
11 mm diameter rods
——
Pre-Op penile length: 7.9 inches length, 4.75 inches girth
Post-Op penile length: 7.5 inches length, 4.5 inches girth
Happy :)

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby dan_bionic » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:47 pm

TheDongDangler wrote:
Txagq8 wrote:I’ve told you this before but it bears repeating.

I’m sympathetic to your issues. I suffered from ED at your age but wasn’t aware anything was wrong. When the only erectile you have any experience with you is your own, it becomes the norm.

I was diagnosed at 29. There were no pills back then.

I’m notorious for saying what I think, so I’ll do it again. I believe if you try to proceed directly to an implant at your age without giving injections a good faith try you are a damned fool.

Let’s put this into a medical analogy. Let’s say you have a skin cancer-a basal cell carcinoma. The treatment of choice is to remove the tumor and stitch up the hole that was left. You don’t rush to bombard patient with radiation and chemotherapy unless it becomes necessary.

Popping your dick with an insulin needle and a few droplets of trimix isn’t a big deal. I should know. I did it for 32 years.

You weren’t even alive in 1987 but the implants available would have left me permanently tied to about a 5x4 inch dick and a malleable implant. Better than no sex but hey, I’m male, and I enjoy having a somewhat larger cock.

Injections made me longer, thicker, gave me very reliable sex for nearly 30 years. Only in the last few years of taking shots did the medication become less effective. If I wanted to Jack off I didn’t need a shot, I’d just use a cock ring and if I list my erection temporarily it’s not like I was disappointing some girl or that I needed to be fully rigid.

My biggest fear about implanting an 18 year old would be you aren’t done growing yet. The first implant truly was a piece of cake. Zero complications, like a hernia repair or vasectomy (well except for a bruised dick & nutsack). But each subsequent revision brings with it a new and increasing risk of infection. Bacterial colonies do set up on implants, antibiotic coating notwithstanding…and a replacement is down the road. It might last 15-25 years but eventually it’s gonna fail.

And one other thing…..if you’re headed to Texas to talk to Clavell you might put Bryan Kansas on your list. Unless you’re Jonah Falcon and have to have a Titan (Kansas is an AMS guy) he’s really good, his staff is even better, and he offers among the lowest self pay packages out there. When this 18+5 LGX quits my plan is for him to put in a 21+4 CX or special order me a 24 cm CX plus RTEs by the end of the day.

Yeah, an implant is great. But so we’re injections. Refusing to give them a try smacks of immaturity. Yes, it’s ok to be 18. But at 18 you lack a bit of wisdom some of us have acquired fighting ED for a lot longer than you’ve been alive.



I am 23 I did the Trimix shots for several years they stopped working they may work for you for some people it can induce peyronies


Yeah, Trimix might work for some and some times, but all pills and shots are never equal to a great implant done by a great surgeon!
How long do you have your implant?
Dan
65, from Germany, 30 years of ED
Implant July 20th, 2023, AMS LGX 18cm plus 5 cm RTE
That was the best I could ever do and I should have done it much earlier.
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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby dentestes » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:02 pm

I love your attitude so much! ED is a beast and completely destroys a man. Therefore we must fight back with everything and come out guns blazing LMAO

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby Stampede » Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:49 pm

Txagq8 wrote:I’ve told you this before but it bears repeating.

I’m sympathetic to your issues. I suffered from ED at your age but wasn’t aware anything was wrong. When the only erectile you have any experience with you is your own, it becomes the norm.

I was diagnosed at 29. There were no pills back then.

I’m notorious for saying what I think, so I’ll do it again. I believe if you try to proceed directly to an implant at your age without giving injections a good faith try you are a damned fool.

Let’s put this into a medical analogy. Let’s say you have a skin cancer-a basal cell carcinoma. The treatment of choice is to remove the tumor and stitch up the hole that was left. You don’t rush to bombard patient with radiation and chemotherapy unless it becomes necessary.

Popping your dick with an insulin needle and a few droplets of trimix isn’t a big deal. I should know. I did it for 32 years.

You weren’t even alive in 1987 but the implants available would have left me permanently tied to about a 5x4 inch dick and a malleable implant. Better than no sex but hey, I’m male, and I enjoy having a somewhat larger cock.

Injections made me longer, thicker, gave me very reliable sex for nearly 30 years. Only in the last few years of taking shots did the medication become less effective. If I wanted to Jack off I didn’t need a shot, I’d just use a cock ring and if I list my erection temporarily it’s not like I was disappointing some girl or that I needed to be fully rigid.

My biggest fear about implanting an 18 year old would be you aren’t done growing yet. The first implant truly was a piece of cake. Zero complications, like a hernia repair or vasectomy (well except for a bruised dick & nutsack). But each subsequent revision brings with it a new and increasing risk of infection. Bacterial colonies do set up on implants, antibiotic coating notwithstanding…and a replacement is down the road. It might last 15-25 years but eventually it’s gonna fail.

And one other thing…..if you’re headed to Texas to talk to Clavell you might put Bryan Kansas on your list. Unless you’re Jonah Falcon and have to have a Titan (Kansas is an AMS guy) he’s really good, his staff is even better, and he offers among the lowest self pay packages out there. When this 18+5 LGX quits my plan is for him to put in a 21+4 CX or special order me a 24 cm CX plus RTEs by the end of the day.

Yeah, an implant is great. But so we’re injections. Refusing to give them a try smacks of immaturity. Yes, it’s ok to be 18. But at 18 you lack a bit of wisdom some of us have acquired fighting ED for a lot longer than you’ve been alive.


Txagq8 here is one of the guys, if not THE guy on FT, that I would listen to closley. And I do agree kind of with his analogy. I also was smirkig a little when the poster here wrote "I for sure dont stick a needle in my dick", thinking about him not sticking a needle in his dick, but a full on three-piece hydraulic system for sure is fine!
All jokes aside, there is one thing I want to mention regarding the injections.

Txagq8 is a great example for someone having no trouble with injections for 2 years longer than I am old. But there are cases of scar tissue build up that can happen, depending on the individual case, needle size, injection method and so on...
But the point I want to make is another: While injections can be working fine for decades, without becoming less effective and without harming your dick or creating scar tissue. And of course those are the way less invasive way compared to a surgery and almos certain follwing revision surgeries. But even I got my dose dialed in, there was a reason I decided on the implant and quitting the injections. Mind you, I developed ED 10 months ago and used injections for only 6-7 months.
I am 30 years of age and I enjoy sex a lot. The first limiting factor is, that if you follow the instructions, you should only inject every 72 hours. I never sticked to that timeframe, but if you do it right, you are limited to 120 times sex per year. Maybe for some that is okay, for me, no way. It gets even more interesting if you were used to and totally liked to have sex multiple times a day. inject in the morning, maybe its a little sore at first from the evening before, but then if you want to repet that at the afternoon, you can for sure feel it, not in a good way. injecting again at night, hurts like shit. not the injection, more so the erection.
Next thing is the aspect of planing ahead. Trimix should be cooled, i figuered its still effective even if at room temperature for many many hours, but still, you have to keep that shit with you. And that is not possible all the time and you are basically fucked (pun) if you dont have your vial or syringe with you. Go out on a date expacting sex, okay. Going to a sex party, okay. But go to a club or a bar? being away for a long time, just taking opportunities when the arise? No. I was very comftable using the injections, i was not anxious and 90% of the girls i even told, that I need those, did the injection infront of them or heck one girl even injected me when she woke up first and made her way to the fridge, but still, the times I had sex in those 10 months more than halfed.

So I would say it all depends on your lifestyle and libido. I would even go as far as saying if you are OLDER and develop ED, having a wife and no changing sex partners, stick to injections. But being young and on the hunt, injections are working in a medical sense, but not allways in a practical.
30yo, Germany. Priapism January 2024, erections after that sometimes good, sometimes shit.
implanted 09th September 2024, Rigicon Infla10X 20cm+1cm RTE

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby Txagq8 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:20 pm

Stampede:

Your comments are right on target.

But I would add a few things:

Going on shots doesn’t mean an eternally refillable prescription and forget about it. A guy on injectables needs to keep a close eye on things. I injected for 32 years. When my doc implanted me he said he couldn’t find any scarring, evidence of Peyronie’s, none of that. I know guys from this site who have developed problems within a couple of years.

One thing early on that was pretty noteworthy is that after I’d had an injection or two over the course of / or 3 days, I could get an erection on my own and maintain it pretty well with a leather cock&ball ring. It was almost like the use of the bimix (later trimix) had opened up or dilated my arteries. Bottom line is that while on shots, I had sex at other times using a ring or a pill.

You have to work with the doctor to get the dosage and frequency right. I was in the Army and might be deployed for 6 months. When I got home my doctor allowed me to shoot up every day for a week or two….he just had me dial down the dosage some so I never ended up in ER.

Great erections. No ER trips. I can count number of misfires on 2 hands (less than 10 in 32 years). No fibrosis or scarring.

It doesn’t happen by accident. You achieve this by being your own advocate with health care providers.

If the LGX I have had been on the market in 1987, I might feel differently. But it wasn’t.

My son is 33 and if he has ED he’s not brought it to anyone’s attention. If he had my level of ED at 33, I’d suggest an implant in a heartbeat. But 18? I’d want him to kick the can down the road for a few years.

I’ve mentioned before I was the lucky winner of a case of constitutional delay of puberty and interestingly enough my 50th high school reunion was this past weekend. I’m 6” taller than when I graduated. I weigh 75 lbs more but pack it into the same waist size Jean (30”). I don’t recall my dick measurements from 1974 but I’ll guess 5x4.5. Now as a grownup I’m out there close to 7x6. What I’m saying is a few years on injections to make sure all growth is over and done with just seems like it makes sense.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby LastHope » Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:07 pm

TheDongDangler wrote:I don’t like my Shitticon should have got a tactra more hard, tactra is hard as fuck and for someone like me with a larger penile would have ideal


Shitticon :lol:
You're funny!
Tactra is undeniably the stiffest malleable option, no question. But why did Boston Scientific's bean counters skip adding the hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, despite studies proving it cuts infection risks by 50%? I don't get it.

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Re: Pursuing implant at 18

Postby TheDongDangler » Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:45 am

LastHope wrote:
TheDongDangler wrote:I don’t like my Shitticon should have got a tactra more hard, tactra is hard as fuck and for someone like me with a larger penile would have ideal


Shitticon :lol:
You're funny!
Tactra is undeniably the stiffest malleable option, no question. But why did Boston Scientific's bean counters skip adding the hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, despite studies proving it cuts infection risks by 50%? I don't get it.



Honestly that’s why I got the shitticon was the hydrophilic coating, maybe it saved me we never know because my skin opened up and I was hospitalised but luckily no infection, I have no idea if the IV antibiotics stopped it or there was never an infection or it was the Hydro coating
Rigicon MALLEABLE
20 cm + 0.5cm RTE
11 mm diameter rods
——
Pre-Op penile length: 7.9 inches length, 4.75 inches girth
Post-Op penile length: 7.5 inches length, 4.5 inches girth
Happy :)


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