Surgery scheduled for December - Upcoming Journal and Question on my surgeon's cycling process

[Hope84]

Hi everybody,

After more than two year of being on the fence regarding the implant, I finally pulled the trigger and arranged a surgery for the 5th of December with Dr Sébastien Beley, based in Paris. I opted for an AMS CX based on the better flaccid look (compared to the Titan) and the better axial rigidity (compared to the LGX).

I am both excited and a little anxious. Like many members here on Frantalk, I do not have full blown ED. I had several untreated priapism episodes around the age of 15. I used to smoke a lot of pot back then, and weed gave me raging boners which would not subside for many hours, and I suspect sometimes stayed all night long, which has damaged my penile tissues such that I cannot maintain an erection for too long. Basically, since that age, I have never been able to sustain an erection while standing up for longer than say 30 seconds (I literally can see my dick deflating and feel the blood leaving faster than fresh blood gets in), nocturnal and morning erections are infrequent and inconsistent (there are weeks/months where I wake up with a cold, shrivelled up dick, and periods where I wake up with a strong boner, but as soon as I stand up and move a little too much, I lose it), and I have never had sex without pills (or high on weed, which has a strong vasodilator effect on me). I do however get very satisfactory erections for masturbation, though I am convinced this DOES NOT rule out organic/physical ED. Blood outflow is simply much higher when having (vigorous) sex, and sex last longer than it takes me to masturbate.

Pills used to work fine for a while, even though with stress and alcohol, no matter the dose, I would not be guaranteed success, especially with a one night stand and/or wearing a condom. I have tried injections (Alprostadil), which does give me erections but a) they're too painful, b) hard to dose, and c) I simply cannot see myself having to rely on injections for the foreseeable future, especially as a single 30 years old guy. Pills as you all know also imply some degree of planning (though nothing like injections), and obviously if pills still worked fine (say >80% probability of success), then I would not go for the implant. But I have reached the stage were the side effects of pills at my dosage (120-150mg of Viagra, or >20mg of Cialis) are just too strong and annoying, and chances of having a erection strong and long-lasting enough for penetrative sex too small to justify the side effects and the shame, anxiety, frustration and self-hatred induced by the failure to have sex. This happened again (for like the 15th of 20th time of my life) with a super hot Brazilian girl I was dating for a few month, who was really into me until we ended up at my place one afternoon (we had not drunk alcohol at all), and even though I took like 100mg of Viagra and some Cialis, I was limp as a wet noodle while she was trying to suck me and rubbing her hot body on me. I felt so bad and so ashamed, this still haunts me to this day. After that, she stopped talking to me progressevily and I never saw her again, not even once (she always found excuses when I proposed her to meet up).

This was the trigger for me, I knew this day would come, and I have sworn to myself that this is the last time I am failing to have sex with a woman because of my incapacity to maintain an erection. The thing is, of my experience, even though many girls like or even prefer oral sex, ED is a massive turn off for them. Their brains are wired to be attracted to erections, and to associate erections with male pleasure and, by construction, to their own attractiveness, physical appearance and ego. No matter how good your tongue play is (and trust me, ED has, like many of you here I am sure, made me very good at eating pussy), this will be a dealbreaker for the lion's share of women on this planet.

I truly hope that the implant will restore my self-confidence, allow me to have a fulfilling sex life, and help me finding a partner with whom I can share my life. I have wasted so much time already, ED has robbed me of so many sex opportunities and made me so depressed and anxious over these years that I will never get back. This thing is eating me up from the inside, hijacking my mental space and inner peace, and now impacting my work (which is precisely the sphere on which I succeed very well in part due to ED, as this condition pushed me to compensate by focusing on things I could control like my career).

I will keep you updated about my journey and share details about the progress made post-surgery. But first, I have a question:

- My surgeon's technique is to leave the implant completely deflated after the surgery so as to speed up the healing process, and then letting me cycling after 4 weeks. Has any of you had the same protocol, or heard about it? He claims that there is no size loss compared to the more usual technique consisting in leaving the implant partially inflated and starting cycling after 6 weeks. He is a high-volume surgeon (100 implants/year, over 1500 in his career). What do you think?

Thank you in advance.

[EDbeGone!]

Hi everybody,

After more than two year of being on the fence regarding the implant, I finally pulled the trigger and arranged a surgery for the 5th of December with Dr Sébastien Beley, based in Paris. I opted for an AMS CX based on the better flaccid look (compared to the Titan) and the better axial rigidity (compared to the LGX).

I am both excited and a little anxious. Like many members here on Frantalk, I do not have full blown ED. I had several untreated priapism episodes around the age of 15. I used to smoke a lot of pot back then, and weed gave me raging boners which would not subside for many hours, and I suspect sometimes stayed all night long, which has damaged my penile tissues such that I cannot maintain an erection for too long. Basically, since that age, I have never been able to sustain an erection while standing up for longer than say 30 seconds (I literally can see my dick deflating and feel the blood leaving faster than fresh blood gets in), nocturnal and morning erections are infrequent and inconsistent (there are weeks/months where I wake up with a cold, shrivelled up dick, and periods where I wake up with a strong boner, but as soon as I stand up and move a little too much, I lose it), and I have never had sex without pills (or high on weed, which has a strong vasodilator effect on me). I do however get very satisfactory erections for masturbation, though I am convinced this DOES NOT rule out organic/physical ED. Blood outflow is simply much higher when having (vigorous) sex, and sex last longer than it takes me to masturbate.

Pills used to work fine for a while, even though with stress and alcohol, no matter the dose, I would not be guaranteed success, especially with a one night stand and/or wearing a condom. I have tried injections (Alprostadil), which does give me erections but a) they're too painful, b) hard to dose, and c) I simply cannot see myself having to rely on injections for the foreseeable future, especially as a single 30 years old guy. Pills as you all know also imply some degree of planning (though nothing like injections), and obviously if pills still worked fine (say >80% probability of success), then I would not go for the implant. But I have reached the stage were the side effects of pills at my dosage (120-150mg of Viagra, or >20mg of Cialis) are just too strong and annoying, and chances of having a erection strong and long-lasting enough for penetrative sex too small to justify the side effects and the shame, anxiety, frustration and self-hatred induced by the failure to have sex. This happened again (for like the 15th of 20th time of my life) with a super hot Brazilian girl I was dating for a few month, who was really into me until we ended up at my place one afternoon (we had not drunk alcohol at all), and even though I took like 100mg of Viagra and some Cialis, I was limp as a wet noodle while she was trying to suck me and rubbing her hot body on me. I felt so bad and so ashamed, this still haunts me to this day. After that, she stopped talking to me progressevily and I never saw her again, not even once (she always found excuses when I proposed her to meet up).

This was the trigger for me, I knew this day would come, and I have sworn to myself that this is the last time I am failing to have sex with a woman because of my incapacity to maintain an erection. The thing is, of my experience, even though many girls like or even prefer oral sex, ED is a massive turn off for them. Their brains are wired to be attracted to erections, and to associate erections with male pleasure and, by construction, to their own attractiveness, physical appearance and ego. No matter how good your tongue play is (and trust me, ED has, like many of you here I am sure, made me very good at eating pussy), this will be a dealbreaker for the lion's share of women on this planet.

I truly hope that the implant will restore my self-confidence, allow me to have a fulfilling sex life, and help me finding a partner with whom I can share my life. I have wasted so much time already, ED has robbed me of so many sex opportunities and made me so depressed and anxious over these years that I will never get back. This thing is eating me up from the inside, hijacking my mental space and inner peace, and now impacting my work (which is precisely the sphere on which I succeed very well in part due to ED, as this condition pushed me to compensate by focusing on things I could control like my career).

I will keep you updated about my journey and share details about the progress made post-surgery. But first, I have a question:

- My surgeon's technique is to leave the implant completely deflated after the surgery so as to speed up the healing process, and then letting me cycling after 4 weeks. Has any of you had the same protocol, or heard about it? He claims that there is no size loss compared to the more usual technique consisting in leaving the implant partially inflated and starting cycling after 6 weeks. He is a high-volume surgeon (100 implants/year, over 1500 in his career). What do you think?

Thank you in advance.

Hello, I'm no expert on the subject, I was just recently implanted on September 30th. My surgeon also fully deflated me after 4 days and days to return in a month. I'm just shy of 4 weeks post op and my recovery has been superb! I literally have no pain or discomfort at this point in either the scrotum or shaft. I pumped up a little yesterday and felt no pain and minor aches in the shaft from it expanding. But it wasn't pain or discomfort, just a noticeable feeling.

I say all of this to say that maybe being deflated does help with the recovery. According to everyone else it takes months to a year to increase your size so I don't think waiting a few weeks before cycling is going to impact that process much. Of course, I'm no expert and everyone's body is different, but I would just trust your surgeon's process for cycling.

Good luck!

[Hope84]

Hello, I'm no expert on the subject, I was just recently implanted on September 30th. My surgeon also fully deflated me after 4 days and days to return in a month. I'm just shy of 4 weeks post op and my recovery has been superb! I literally have no pain or discomfort at this point in either the scrotum or shaft. I pumped up a little yesterday and felt no pain and minor aches in the shaft from it expanding. But it wasn't pain or discomfort, just a noticeable feeling.

I say all of this to say that maybe being deflated does help with the recovery. According to everyone else it takes months to a year to increase your size so I don't think waiting a few weeks before cycling is going to impact that process much. Of course, I'm no expert and everyone's body is different, but I would just trust your surgeon's process for cycling.

Good luck![/quote]

Hello, thanks for your reply! Ok so it is not so uncommon to be left deflated after surgery for some weeks. The fact that you had a smooth recovery seems to confirm that keep the implant deflated may help with the healing process. Do you feel that you have lost size or is it too early to tell?

Best of luck for your recovery.

[EDbeGone!]

Hello, I'm no expert on the subject, I was just recently implanted on September 30th. My surgeon also fully deflated me after 4 days and days to return in a month. I'm just shy of 4 weeks post op and my recovery has been superb! I literally have no pain or discomfort at this point in either the scrotum or shaft. I pumped up a little yesterday and felt no pain and minor aches in the shaft from it expanding. But it wasn't pain or discomfort, just a noticeable feeling.

I say all of this to say that maybe being deflated does help with the recovery. According to everyone else it takes months to a year to increase your size so I don't think waiting a few weeks before cycling is going to impact that process much. Of course, I'm no expert and everyone's body is different, but I would just trust your surgeon's process for cycling.

Good luck!

Hello, thanks for your reply! Ok so it is not so uncommon to be left deflated after surgery for some weeks. The fact that you had a smooth recovery seems to confirm that keep the implant deflated may help with the healing process. Do you feel that you have lost size or is it too early to tell?

Best of luck for your recovery.[/quote]

Thank you! Yes I would have to say that being deflated may have led to my quick recovery. I pumped today and didn't every feel any aches in the shaft like the first time. As far as size loss goes, I'm certainly shorter than I was but I don't know by how much because I have not measured. I can just tell that it's shorter. However I'll not too worried about it. I believe I will recover some of the loss back as time goes on.

I feel great with everything right now. Pretty much back to feeling normal already.

[Hope84]

Hello, I'm no expert on the subject, I was just recently implanted on September 30th. My surgeon also fully deflated me after 4 days and days to return in a month. I'm just shy of 4 weeks post op and my recovery has been superb! I literally have no pain or discomfort at this point in either the scrotum or shaft. I pumped up a little yesterday and felt no pain and minor aches in the shaft from it expanding. But it wasn't pain or discomfort, just a noticeable feeling.

I say all of this to say that maybe being deflated does help with the recovery. According to everyone else it takes months to a year to increase your size so I don't think waiting a few weeks before cycling is going to impact that process much. Of course, I'm no expert and everyone's body is different, but I would just trust your surgeon's process for cycling.

Good luck!

Hello, thanks for your reply! Ok so it is not so uncommon to be left deflated after surgery for some weeks. The fact that you had a smooth recovery seems to confirm that keep the implant deflated may help with the healing process. Do you feel that you have lost size or is it too early to tell?

Best of luck for your recovery.

Thank you! Yes I would have to say that being deflated may have led to my quick recovery. I pumped today and didn't every feel any aches in the shaft like the first time. As far as size loss goes, I'm certainly shorter than I was but I don't know by how much because I have not measured. I can just tell that it's shorter. However I'll not too worried about it. I believe I will recover some of the loss back as time goes on.

I feel great with everything right now. Pretty much back to feeling normal already.[/quote]

Glad to hear! I am sure that you will recover all of your lost size, judging by other people's experience here. I would be curious to see if other members had the same inflation protocol as us.