Pursuing implant at 18

[Ezz616]

Or get a Tactra if you want to cut diamonds, lol

I agree with Duke.

Boston Scientific (AMS) Tactra malleable has demonstrated the highest malleable axial rigidity, even after 100,000 bend cycle tests in their lab.

However, consider this:
1. Tactra is only five years old, so we lack long-term, real-world durability data. Think long-term.
2. It does not have a hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, which means it won't provide the 50% reduction in infection risk that these coatings have shown in studies.

Infection still remains the most dreaded complication of this surgery.

If you're contemplating a Tactra, the stiffest malleable ever, I recommend consulting Dr. Clavell, who has significant expertise with AMS products. While Dr. Hakky is a Coloplast expert, Dr. Clavell’s proficiency with AMS is stronger.

Be aware that they might steer you away from a malleable option, which is perfectly fine, as long as you’re prepared for potential costs associated with a future IPP mechanical malfunction revision surgery(s).

Not everyone has deep pockets, private health insurances that favors IPP revisions or a wealthy parent or trust fund lifestyle to fund IPP revisions, and GoFundMe is not a viable option unless you have a loyal OnlyFans following. Just kidding!

Ultimately, know yourself, know what you're getting into and make informed choices regarding the implant option (if that's your chosen path) that best suits your needs.

Good luck.

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

[LastHope]

Or get a Tactra if you want to cut diamonds, lol

I agree with Duke.

Boston Scientific (AMS) Tactra malleable has demonstrated the highest malleable axial rigidity, even after 100,000 bend cycle tests in their lab.

However, consider this:
1. Tactra is only five years old, so we lack long-term, real-world durability data. Think long-term.
2. It does not have a hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, which means it won't provide the 50% reduction in infection risk that these coatings have shown in studies.

Infection still remains the most dreaded complication of this surgery.

If you're contemplating a Tactra, the stiffest malleable ever, I recommend consulting Dr. Clavell, who has significant expertise with AMS products. While Dr. Hakky is a Coloplast expert, Dr. Clavell’s proficiency with AMS is stronger.

Be aware that they might steer you away from a malleable option, which is perfectly fine, as long as you’re prepared for potential costs associated with a future IPP mechanical malfunction revision surgery(s).

Not everyone has deep pockets, private health insurances that favors IPP revisions or a wealthy parent or trust fund lifestyle to fund IPP revisions, and GoFundMe is not a viable option unless you have a loyal OnlyFans following. Just kidding!

Ultimately, know yourself, know what you're getting into and make informed choices regarding the implant option (if that's your chosen path) that best suits your needs.

Good luck.

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

Two Tactra rods were bench-tested, demonstrating an axial rigidity of 6.1 lbs. However, given the girth limitations inherent to malleables, comparing them directly with the Titan isn’t fair. The Titan’s axial rigidity for its girth expansion capabilities of the tough bioflex material, will clearly outperform any malleable currently on the market.

[TheDongDangler]

I agree with Duke.

Boston Scientific (AMS) Tactra malleable has demonstrated the highest malleable axial rigidity, even after 100,000 bend cycle tests in their lab.

However, consider this:
1. Tactra is only five years old, so we lack long-term, real-world durability data. Think long-term.
2. It does not have a hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, which means it won't provide the 50% reduction in infection risk that these coatings have shown in studies.

Infection still remains the most dreaded complication of this surgery.

If you're contemplating a Tactra, the stiffest malleable ever, I recommend consulting Dr. Clavell, who has significant expertise with AMS products. While Dr. Hakky is a Coloplast expert, Dr. Clavell’s proficiency with AMS is stronger.

Be aware that they might steer you away from a malleable option, which is perfectly fine, as long as you’re prepared for potential costs associated with a future IPP mechanical malfunction revision surgery(s).

Not everyone has deep pockets, private health insurances that favors IPP revisions or a wealthy parent or trust fund lifestyle to fund IPP revisions, and GoFundMe is not a viable option unless you have a loyal OnlyFans following. Just kidding!

Ultimately, know yourself, know what you're getting into and make informed choices regarding the implant option (if that's your chosen path) that best suits your needs.

Good luck.

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

Two Tactra rods were bench-tested, demonstrating an axial rigidity of 6.1 lbs. However, given the girth limitations inherent to malleables, comparing them directly with the Titan isn’t fair. The Titan’s axial rigidity for its girth expansion capabilities of the tough bioflex material, will clearly outperform any malleable currently on the market.

Girth comes from your tunica albguinea not from the rods

[duke_cicero]

Or get a Tactra if you want to cut diamonds, lol

I agree with Duke.

Boston Scientific (AMS) Tactra malleable has demonstrated the highest malleable axial rigidity, even after 100,000 bend cycle tests in their lab.

However, consider this:
1. Tactra is only five years old, so we lack long-term, real-world durability data. Think long-term.
2. It does not have a hydrophilic or Inhibizone coating, which means it won't provide the 50% reduction in infection risk that these coatings have shown in studies.

Infection still remains the most dreaded complication of this surgery.

If you're contemplating a Tactra, the stiffest malleable ever, I recommend consulting Dr. Clavell, who has significant expertise with AMS products. While Dr. Hakky is a Coloplast expert, Dr. Clavell’s proficiency with AMS is stronger.

Be aware that they might steer you away from a malleable option, which is perfectly fine, as long as you’re prepared for potential costs associated with a future IPP mechanical malfunction revision surgery(s).

Not everyone has deep pockets, private health insurances that favors IPP revisions or a wealthy parent or trust fund lifestyle to fund IPP revisions, and GoFundMe is not a viable option unless you have a loyal OnlyFans following. Just kidding!

Ultimately, know yourself, know what you're getting into and make informed choices regarding the implant option (if that's your chosen path) that best suits your needs.

Good luck.

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

I don't think you're thinking about this in the right way. The Tactra has nickel titanium rods in it. That's hard. The Titan is hard, too. But this is largely splitting hairs in the context of the thing that really matters, which is the possibility of sexual performance. Doing what's right for you isn't necessarily a question of maxing-out on every single artificial metric of hardness, etc. I understand your frustration — all of us do — but I don't think you're necessarily thinking about this in the right way. Just considering the words you're using — "comically excessive amount of rigidity." Are you trying to cure your ED or merely demonstrate a point?

Also, suppose your "comically excessively rigid" Titan fails. Then you have to suffer the irony of having a bionic dick that (surprise) still doesn't work.

[stgalli]

@Discovernew

I’m with you that I wish I’d been informed of this option before getting an implant. It still can be helpful for a lot of men who have been implanted. Loss of penis sensitivity and lack of engorgement of the head and corpus spongiosum are frequent complaints and the urethral gel can help with both of these. The success rate in this setting has been frequently quoted as 50% but it’s not well studied and it’s probably higher (in my opinion) if you use it correctly. It takes about 15 minutes to achieve maximal effect. Maybe a bit longer for some. The gel has to be refrigerated and it has a shelf life of about 10 weeks.

A note to the original poster. I’m a retired physician and I’ve done a lot of reading about ED treatments, especially in the setting of prostate cancer. There is a reason that doctors uniformly recommend trying everything else before going to an implant. The experience of having sex is never the same after the implant. If you read through the comments on this board you will find many men report it takes longer and more intense stimulation to climax, and some are unable to do so with intercourse. The penis doesn’t feel the same to the touch when flaccid or erect. These aren’t deal breakers, and the sex can still be great. As for wanting a super hard erection that’s harder than a non-implanted penis, that’s a fools errand. Women generally don’t like that. A lot of couples find they have to intentionally inflate the implant to less than its maximum for the woman’s comfort. I suppose that might be different for anal sex, but I don’t one way or the other on that subject.

[Txagq8]

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

Ok. This is where I know you really are 18 and are pretty inexperienced sexually.

I’ve been where you are. I’m not sure I ever had a “normal” erection. From the time I started “popping boners” to my first sexual experiences to about age 29 I had no clue anything was wrong. But it was.

I figured everyone had to use their left hand and compress the pubic area while stroking with the right hand to Jack off.

I figured everyone’s erections lasted only a few minutes. Fortunately (or unfortunately) for a few years when I first started getting laid I finished up pretty quickly.

I was not unaware that other dudes didn’t have to exert Herculean levels of stimulation to maintain an erection more than 2-3 minutes. That was my normal. Who was going to tell me otherwise?

Actually, the answer to that was a fiancée with a little sexual experience herself. But I went 10 years being blissfully ignorant that I was having sex, but things weren’t right.

I got the same bullshit from doctors. Psychological. Performance anxiety. Have a drink beforehand. Use a cock ring. It was only the 3rd urologist I saw, when I took my then-fiancée (later my wife) to the appointment so she could describe what was going on that I got pressure tests and dye/imaging studies done. (This was in the 80s).

So I know where you’re coming from. ED might affect older guys the most but younger guys do deal with it. And if you’re younger, it sucks. But you’ve got a hell of a lot more options than I did in 1987.

Regardless of what you want….whether it is a tree trunk battering ram with a million newtons of axial rigidity force….what you need is a penis that is going to look and behave like that of 99% of other adult males.

That’s a 3 piece inflatable. Either Coloplast’s Titan or AMS’ CX or LGX are excellent products. I went into this thinking I wanted a Titan but my urologist installed the LGX. If and when I wear this out I think I’m looking at a CX just because of sizing. (Yes, revisions often require an extra cm or two….I’m unsure if you’ve increased your dick size any but cycling will have stretched out the corporal chamber somewhat over several years.)

It’s good that price is no object….since you’ve got so much spare money feel free to wire transfer some to me whenever you wish. But the real deal is within the continental USA you’re going to be able to find a surgeon who will install an implant, provide follow up care, and include an insurance against surgical complications starting at about $18K. We aren’t talking chump change but a prosthesis which might last 25 years is a bargain.

And when you get one it may very well last that long. I know, on here the conventional wisdom is 10 years and both my surgeon and his PA told me plan on 10 years. I think that’s called managing expectations. More recent scholarly papers focusing on the CX suggest the median life of one is just over 20 years. 75% were still working at the ten year mark.

I do understand the desire to get this over and done with. I don’t want to hit you with a lot of platitudes. (Patience is a virtue, good things come to he who waits, haste makes waste, etc).

Infection rates are low but yes, they do occur and they can wreak havoc when they do. This is especially true if you live in Canada and flew to Houston or Atlanta for an implant. Infection usually means a colony of bacteria on the implant so a Cipro or Amoxicillin tablet isn’t gonna fix it….it’s coming out. Maybe for 6 months, maybe longer. Maybe forever. No, waiting isn’t going to lessen the risk of infection (although implant manufacturers and surgical techniques are constantly getting better) but at age 18 kicking the can down the road a few years isn’t a bad thing.

Maybe better than anyone on this site I understand your desire to be done with ED. I was a 29 year old Army lieutenant who thought he was quite the stud and it was a total kick in the balls to be told I was impotent due to physical causes. Adding insult to injury I had been that way my entire life.

There’s no doubt in my mind that you’ve got an implant in your future. The question is when. When I suggest taking your foot off the gas pedal it’s not me wanting to keep you from having fun or engaging in sex. It is simply this is irreversible, each subsequent revision carries with it an increased chance of infection, and the results can range from extremely inconvenient to catastrophic.

I am also concerned about where you are physiologically. Guys obviously don’t mature and develop/grow according to a standard pattern. Yeah, puberty is typically done between ages 13 & 17 and you’re done growing by 18. Some guys hit puberty early (the guy with a big dick and pubic hair in gym class showers in 7th grade). Others hit it late. Some are thru in 2 years. Others take 6 years or more to get their full adult size. As I’ve mentioned I started late and continued to grow (height, musculature, genitalia) well into my mid-20s. It might not be typical but it’s not uncommon. You DO NOT WANT THEM TO IMPLANT YOU BEFORE YOURE FINISHED GROWING. Any change would require a revision which brings in the risk of infection again wash rinse repeat.

I’m going to sign off on this topic for a while. Ultimately it’s going to be your decision. Try thinking with your brain and not just your dick. Implants are great, but they aren’t without their drawbacks.

[LastHope]

I mean with a malleable I love the idea of permanently denying my penis even the possibility of being soft but the thing is if I take a step back from my hatred for ED and disgust with the concept of a flaccid penis I don't think personally a malleable would be my best choice. This first implant cost wise won't be an issue not that I know what the future will be money wise but I really want a coloplast titan or AMS CX because I want an over the top unnecessary comedically excessive amount of rigidity that is unreasonably hard because I feel the harder the implant the bigger fuck you it is to ED. That being said is a tactra as hard or harder than a titan? I doubt I choose this route but I think that if a malleable can provide titan level rigidity it should be something at least worth considering.

Ok. This is where I know you really are 18 and are pretty inexperienced sexually.

I’ve been where you are. I’m not sure I ever had a “normal” erection. From the time I started “popping boners” to my first sexual experiences to about age 29 I had no clue anything was wrong. But it was.

I figured everyone had to use their left hand and compress the pubic area while stroking with the right hand to Jack off.

I figured everyone’s erections lasted only a few minutes. Fortunately (or unfortunately) for a few years when I first started getting laid I finished up pretty quickly.

I was not unaware that other dudes didn’t have to exert Herculean levels of stimulation to maintain an erection more than 2-3 minutes. That was my normal. Who was going to tell me otherwise?

Actually, the answer to that was a fiancée with a little sexual experience herself. But I went 10 years being blissfully ignorant that I was having sex, but things weren’t right.

I got the same bullshit from doctors. Psychological. Performance anxiety. Have a drink beforehand. Use a cock ring. It was only the 3rd urologist I saw, when I took my then-fiancée (later my wife) to the appointment so she could describe what was going on that I got pressure tests and dye/imaging studies done. (This was in the 80s).

So I know where you’re coming from. ED might affect older guys the most but younger guys do deal with it. And if you’re younger, it sucks. But you’ve got a hell of a lot more options than I did in 1987.

Regardless of what you want….whether it is a tree trunk battering ram with a million newtons of axial rigidity force….what you need is a penis that is going to look and behave like that of 99% of other adult males.

That’s a 3 piece inflatable. Either Coloplast’s Titan or AMS’ CX or LGX are excellent products. I went into this thinking I wanted a Titan but my urologist installed the LGX. If and when I wear this out I think I’m looking at a CX just because of sizing. (Yes, revisions often require an extra cm or two….I’m unsure if you’ve increased your dick size any but cycling will have stretched out the corporal chamber somewhat over several years.)

It’s good that price is no object….since you’ve got so much spare money feel free to wire transfer some to me whenever you wish. But the real deal is within the continental USA you’re going to be able to find a surgeon who will install an implant, provide follow up care, and include an insurance against surgical complications starting at about $18K. We aren’t talking chump change but a prosthesis which might last 25 years is a bargain.

And when you get one it may very well last that long. I know, on here the conventional wisdom is 10 years and both my surgeon and his PA told me plan on 10 years. I think that’s called managing expectations. More recent scholarly papers focusing on the CX suggest the median life of one is just over 20 years. 75% were still working at the ten year mark.

I do understand the desire to get this over and done with. I don’t want to hit you with a lot of platitudes. (Patience is a virtue, good things come to he who waits, haste makes waste, etc).

Infection rates are low but yes, they do occur and they can wreak havoc when they do. This is especially true if you live in Canada and flew to Houston or Atlanta for an implant. Infection usually means a colony of bacteria on the implant so a Cipro or Amoxicillin tablet isn’t gonna fix it….it’s coming out. Maybe for 6 months, maybe longer. Maybe forever. No, waiting isn’t going to lessen the risk of infection (although implant manufacturers and surgical techniques are constantly getting better) but at age 18 kicking the can down the road a few years isn’t a bad thing.

Maybe better than anyone on this site I understand your desire to be done with ED. I was a 29 year old Army lieutenant who thought he was quite the stud and it was a total kick in the balls to be told I was impotent due to physical causes. Adding insult to injury I had been that way my entire life.

There’s no doubt in my mind that you’ve got an implant in your future. The question is when. When I suggest taking your foot off the gas pedal it’s not me wanting to keep you from having fun or engaging in sex. It is simply this is irreversible, each subsequent revision carries with it an increased chance of infection, and the results can range from extremely inconvenient to catastrophic.

I am also concerned about where you are physiologically. Guys obviously don’t mature and develop/grow according to a standard pattern. Yeah, puberty is typically done between ages 13 & 17 and you’re done growing by 18. Some guys hit puberty early (the guy with a big dick and pubic hair in gym class showers in 7th grade). Others hit it late. Some are thru in 2 years. Others take 6 years or more to get their full adult size. As I’ve mentioned I started late and continued to grow (height, musculature, genitalia) well into my mid-20s. It might not be typical but it’s not uncommon. You DO NOT WANT THEM TO IMPLANT YOU BEFORE YOURE FINISHED GROWING. Any change would require a revision which brings in the risk of infection again wash rinse repeat.

I’m going to sign off on this topic for a while. Ultimately it’s going to be your decision. Try thinking with your brain and not just your dick. Implants are great, but they aren’t without their drawbacks.

WOW. This is absolutely on point, with excellent reasoning that makes complete sense. Thank you, Txagq8.

[duke_cicero]

Txagq8 speaks truth. I literally could not have said it better, or even nearly as well.

[Tapion]

A couple months back I introduced myself to franktalk telling my story of having ed since age 14 and as its declined I have now reached the point I can't get and I sure as hell can't maintain any kind of rigid erection and how I've tried the pills which to call useless would be giving them too much credit. I also tried the VED which sucked blood into my penis but it didn't work with cock rings (not that I care because I wasn't about to use an awkward ass cock ring and VED for sex) but my use of the VED is only because I haven't been able to see any implant specialist about an implant because I am well, was, a "pediatric" case and couldn't get anyone to seriously consider giving me an implant but now that I've recently turned 18 my journey can finally begin.

Now my mindset is simply stop at nothing to defeat ED. I have no interest in trying injections, hell I never even wanted to try Viagra or Levitra or use this stupid VED. From the beginning it was daily Cialis or implant for me. I don't want any worthless "treatment" that necessitates me take a stupid headache pill on an empty stomach just so that I could maybe jerk off an hour later and I sure as hell didn't want to put a needle in my penis. Now had the daily cialis worked I probably would have stuck with that because that would have made me feel normal but the fact is it didn't and the other "solutions" (not that I see them as solutions) require planning and have side effects and as an 18 year old I deserve better than that.

I don't want a temporary solution I want a reliable, spontaneous, and almost supernatural solution that the implant provides. In Dr Hakky's webinar for example he says the implant has a 1000psi which is more than a natural erection so going from ED to an unnaturally hard erection sounds super empowering to me. I don't like the other "options" because the fact is they don't eradicate ED the way an implant does so to me it feels like I would be settling for an inferior solution and be a fool for allowing my ED to continue existing. I don't care one bit about the fact that its not a "natural" erection with saline filled cylinders providing rigidity to my penis instead of blood filled corporas because the fact is my corporal bodies already decided to give up I find it reasonable that they should be destroyed and replaced for their decision to keep my penis flaccid. Also, not only does the implant give you spontaneous erections back (in the sense you can have them when you want) but it also lets you stay hard as long as you want and get harder than ever before. For me I'm looking to throw both middle fingers to whatever genetic mutation gave me ED at 14 in the first place and punish my penis for having the audacity to be soft. Going from ED to a dick comparable to a battering ram would undoubtedly put the ED in its place and be my way of saying to the ED you don't mean shit, I'm in control and I say how hard I am for as long as I want and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.

Now the three main doctors im looking at are Doctor Marah Hehemann in Seattle because she’s close (im in college in Vancouver) and not of that stupid exhaust all other options mindset, Dr Clavell, and Dr Hakky because they’re fantastic surgeons with low out of pocket costs which is something I need to consider because at my age insurance is gonna do everything they can not to pay for it and while my family can likely pay for an implant from just about anyone it wouldn’t make sense to pay more when these guys have low out of pocket costs and top-notch surgical ability

I am going to discuss with my dad in the coming days how we’re going to move forward and how were going to work to absolutely obliterate my ED and create a world in which it no longer exists. Again I will stop at absolutely nothing to absolutely annihilate my ED and put my penis in its place for failing me. I have no fear, hesitation, or doubt I’m making the right call. I do not fear the prospect of not being able to “go back” (to soft ass short lived “erections”) once the implants in place and I view ED as a monster who’s only purpose Is to be slaughtered. Nothing short of god himself coming down from the heavens and ripping my penis clean off my body will stop me from getting this goddamn implant.

Hey Man, first of all i must say i appreciate you for "stopping at nothing to defeat ED", i have seen other teenagers in forums or in reddit talking they want to kill themselves before even trying the implant. So i really appreciate that you have this positive attitude.

I don't blame you for not trying injections. I also skipped them (even if pills worked 50% for me). You are 18 years old so really starting putting needles in your penis for so many years i feel its not a great idea long term, also if you are single must be difficult to carry your injections with you every time you want to have sex with a new girl (while the pills at least you can put them in your pocket).

One thing to know: An implant is not an instant solution. There is a lot of pain involved in recovery, it is a long recovery a lot of things that can go wrong, so you need to know you are taking a risk. If you are mentally ready to go through that pain and take that risk, then go for it.

I am 2 weeks post op and i can tell you it is not easy, but i am hoping that things are bright at the end of the road.

Thanks. I used to use the reddit ed forum but got pissed off at how many pessimistic losers there were on there who said stuff like it made them feel like a failure as a man or I'd rather be impotent forever or kill myself than get an implant. I didn't want to surround myself with pathetic people like that on my journey so I'm glad I found frank talk because it's a way better community where people don't bitch and moan but rather actually take action and do something about their ED. I wish you all the best in your recovery and appreciate you taking the time to respond to this post.

There's a bunch of pessimistic people in there, that's true. But some of them are just being realistic rather than being delusional retards. Calling people who off themselves losers would make you the biggest loser in the first place. There's also been some suicide cases here on franktalk unfortunately, do you think this is any different from reddit? There's a reason if there is a whole thread dedicated to psychological support here, so by your logic all those suicidal people in here are all super negative people as well? Why do you think peyronie disease has those kind of suicide rates? Were they all a bunch of losers as well? Not every human is the same with the same perspectives and opinions and it's not up to you to decide whether getting implanted in your 20s is any better than living with injections or pills for the rest of your life or not, just like not everyone thinks being stuck and using that pump in your 20s is any better then their current situation with all the additional issues an implant can bring, it's all subjective and not everyone sees implant as a real solution so for you to call those people with mental issues that way is just dumb and immature, especially given the fact that suicide is a massive issue in your the country where you yourself are living, a bunch of idiots ending their lives for some of the most stupid reasons such as their girlfriends leaving them yet young patients with venous leak should never complain because god forbid if they do. Do you also think every single dude can afford paying for the first surgery plus all the revisions? Most of the countries don't cover the prices of implants surgeries with insurance. Now, would I try an implant first if my intentions were to off myself? Of course I would, generally speaking one should always have to try before giving up because you could end up liking it as a solution but that's just the way I see it and by no means I judge people who think differently.

[HikerMan]

just one tip, considering your young age i would go with rigicon since it has a lifetime warranty. You will need many revisions at your age

Agreed.

At that age a Malleable MAY be your best bet.