Were our implants unnecessary? (TLDR: NO)

[jakerip]

Fellow guys that had/have venous leak, have y'all heard of this before? It's a surgical technique called venous leak emobilization. Apparently, it has had a 93% success rate during a study and it's minimally invasive. Too late for me, but I don't even think I heard of it while doing all my research. I'm certain none of the doctors mentioned it to me. It kinda sucks I didn't have a chance to at least give it a try, but I'm thankful for the implant that has me back functional.

In 2012, a study involving 29 patients analyzed how endovascular therapy could help men with erectile impotence caused by venous leak (1). All procedures were performed without any major or minor events (0% complication rate). The treatment was successful for 27 out of 29 patients (93.1%), with two unsuccessful procedures due to anatomical reasons. Overall clinical success was achieved in 24 out of 27 patients (88.8%), who reported that their situation had improved, with outcomes ranging from an absence of erection to a normal erection.

In 2014, a study on 18 patients evaluated the efficacy and safety of embolization to treat erectile dysfunction caused by venous leak (2). The results were positive: almost all patients reported an immediate improvement of their situation. According to follow-up data at 13 months, most participants experienced improved erections.

In 2019, a meta-analysis of 212 patients evaluated the safety and efficacy of endovascular therapy for erectile problems linked to veno-occlusive dysfunction or arterial insufficiency (3). The results showed the technical success of this therapy in 86% to 97% of cases. Regarding clinical results, around 59.5% of patients reported a partial or complete improvement of their situation. Complications were rare and minor, occurring in only 5.2% of cases.

[wolfpacker]

It doesn't work unfortunately. The studies you cited are quite old

[AntonS]

Fellow guys that had/have venous leak, have y'all heard of this before? It's a surgical technique called venous leak emobilization. Apparently, it has had a 93% success rate during a study and it's minimally invasive. Too late for me, but I don't even think I heard of it while doing all my research. I'm certain none of the doctors mentioned it to me. It kinda sucks I didn't have a chance to at least give it a try, but I'm thankful for the implant that has me back functional.

In 2012, a study involving 29 patients analyzed how endovascular therapy could help men with erectile impotence caused by venous leak (1). All procedures were performed without any major or minor events (0% complication rate). The treatment was successful for 27 out of 29 patients (93.1%), with two unsuccessful procedures due to anatomical reasons. Overall clinical success was achieved in 24 out of 27 patients (88.8%), who reported that their situation had improved, with outcomes ranging from an absence of erection to a normal erection.

In 2014, a study on 18 patients evaluated the efficacy and safety of embolization to treat erectile dysfunction caused by venous leak (2). The results were positive: almost all patients reported an immediate improvement of their situation. According to follow-up data at 13 months, most participants experienced improved erections.

In 2019, a meta-analysis of 212 patients evaluated the safety and efficacy of endovascular therapy for erectile problems linked to veno-occlusive dysfunction or arterial insufficiency (3). The results showed the technical success of this therapy in 86% to 97% of cases. Regarding clinical results, around 59.5% of patients reported a partial or complete improvement of their situation. Complications were rare and minor, occurring in only 5.2% of cases.

If you are worried that you have had the implant inserted too early, don't worry, you have done everything right. Embolization does not work, and if it does, it is only for a short period of time. I had embolization done using the most modern method with cap glue. The doctor sealed all the proximal veins and it gave practically no result, maybe 10-15% for 1 month, no more. I know several people who have had embolization, all of them had temporary results, or none at all. There are one or two people who really don't have the strength to see a significant effect, but they have done 3 or 4 embolizations. And this is not a 100% effect, but a maximum of 70%. I paid $4,000 for embolization. This money is down the drain.

[jakerip]

Oh wow, thanks for your reply. I was indeed thinking that maybe I had gone nuclear too soon. I'm sorry you went through that. That's a lot of money. Thanks for sharing.

Fellow guys that had/have venous leak, have y'all heard of this before? It's a surgical technique called venous leak emobilization. Apparently, it has had a 93% success rate during a study and it's minimally invasive. Too late for me, but I don't even think I heard of it while doing all my research. I'm certain none of the doctors mentioned it to me. It kinda sucks I didn't have a chance to at least give it a try, but I'm thankful for the implant that has me back functional.

In 2012, a study involving 29 patients analyzed how endovascular therapy could help men with erectile impotence caused by venous leak (1). All procedures were performed without any major or minor events (0% complication rate). The treatment was successful for 27 out of 29 patients (93.1%), with two unsuccessful procedures due to anatomical reasons. Overall clinical success was achieved in 24 out of 27 patients (88.8%), who reported that their situation had improved, with outcomes ranging from an absence of erection to a normal erection.

In 2014, a study on 18 patients evaluated the efficacy and safety of embolization to treat erectile dysfunction caused by venous leak (2). The results were positive: almost all patients reported an immediate improvement of their situation. According to follow-up data at 13 months, most participants experienced improved erections.

In 2019, a meta-analysis of 212 patients evaluated the safety and efficacy of endovascular therapy for erectile problems linked to veno-occlusive dysfunction or arterial insufficiency (3). The results showed the technical success of this therapy in 86% to 97% of cases. Regarding clinical results, around 59.5% of patients reported a partial or complete improvement of their situation. Complications were rare and minor, occurring in only 5.2% of cases.

If you are worried that you have had the implant inserted too early, don't worry, you have done everything right. Embolization does not work, and if it does, it is only for a short period of time. I had embolization done using the most modern method with cap glue. The doctor sealed all the proximal veins and it gave practically no result, maybe 10-15% for 1 month, no more. I know several people who have had embolization, all of them had temporary results, or none at all. There are one or two people who really don't have the strength to see a significant effect, but they have done 3 or 4 embolizations. And this is not a 100% effect, but a maximum of 70%. I paid $4,000 for embolization. This money is down the drain.

[astrius]

VL surgery has ruined many lifes and even lead to several suicides because it totally ruined the penis (there are reports here on FT).

The title of this post stirs unncessary worries for implanted guys - also a study from more than a decade ago is not new.

[jakerip]

Wherever I read about it said it was new as if it was just recently approved. Approval usually takes years. And I would hope guys would read inside the post before worrying. The title is a question, not a statement. Still, if someone's anxiety is triggered by any of that, my apologies.

VL surgery has ruined many lifes and even lead to several suicides because it totally ruined the penis (there are reports here on FT).

The title of this post stirs unncessary worries for implanted guys - also a study from more than a decade ago is not new.

[fucked0ne]

Wherever I read about it said it was new as if it was just recently approved. Approval usually takes years. And I would hope guys would read inside the post before worrying. The title is a question, not a statement. Still, if someone's anxiety is triggered by any of that, my apologies.

VL surgery has ruined many lifes and even lead to several suicides because it totally ruined the penis (there are reports here on FT).

The title of this post stirs unncessary worries for implanted guys - also a study from more than a decade ago is not new.

Well, your heading was framed as a question, so it didn't give me anxiety. Then again, I've been through so much already that I know the implant is kind of the only solution. I was already familiar with embolization/ligation and that it doesn't work.