I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

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2435tjklAS
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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby 2435tjklAS » Sat Mar 01, 2025 4:00 pm

2435tjklAS wrote:
Implant2025 wrote:We can argue about this all night, except I could care less. I wasn't making a prediction nor did I claim to be an authority, rather I just made an observation. Wooody you don't need to take my opinion about your probable size, you can decide for yourself. It's just my opinion.

But you can read here on FrankTalk for yourself about the size implants that surgeons placed in FT posters bodies, and the size they are reporting after surgery and recovery. I based my observation simply on the following: most of the guys implanted stories I read with an 18cm implant had in excess of 5" after cycling. Most of the implant stories I read by guys who got 21cm implants ended up at 6+ inches after cycling. And you got 23 cm.

We don't need to argue about anything. Your supposition that based on the size of a man's implant that you can accurately and reliably predict his final size is wrong. I posted the same question long time ago and got good answers about why...

I need to point out also that this data you gained from reading what men say about their dick size is not reliable information. They don't even need to be lying (though many are) but they can use measuring techniques that are different and/or read the results selectively.

I thought of another reason why estimating the final dick size of a man based on the size of his implant is not effective. If you are basing your data off the self-reported sizes men openly share in their signatures, there's a huge selection bias problem with that. If 100 men get an implant and 25 got exactly what you predicted and feel like sharing it, that does not mean the 75 other men who keep it private also did.

Conclude this with anatomical reasons why the distance between a man's glans and inside his pubic bone and crus stuff can be very different, why you in general shouldn't trust men to be giving real scientific data (or anything close to it) when they self-report stuff about their dicks, and because not hearing any of the bad results or other outliers means it simply doesn't work to estimate the final size of a man's penis based on the combination of those flawed stats. You can probably be somewhat close, but that is not good enough for men and their dicks. There is no reason to make men fear the tragedy of ending up with a dick .4" shorter than his initial one (while ignoring he's no longer impotent) when you can't accurately predict anything.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Replaced Titan Classic Jan. 14, 2025.

Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.

Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: Smaller

Goal: 10+" x 6+"

Copilot77
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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby Copilot77 » Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:22 am

2435tjklAS wrote:
Copilot77 wrote::evil:

I am actually a horny 23 year old. lol

So I can use a VED with my Titan implant ?

I have PTSD from my old vacuum device because my balls got stuck in it.

Meant to reply to this earlier. Yes there's proof VEDs are effective in gaining size with Titans. I was going to reply with the study I attached because I
remember it as being great confirmation of possible length and girth size increases with the Titan. But before replying to you I wanted to make sure it mentioned VEDs and it doesn't. I think that's actually a good thing. With only aggressive cycling alone you can do this:

This study suggests that the use of the Coloplast Titan cylinder, combined with optimization of cylinder length, and daily inflation for 1 year postoperation result in patient satisfaction with penile length and girth of the implanted erect penis. Penile measurements before, at time of surgery, and 1 year later suggest this regimen can maintain or even increase girth and length when compared with the patient’s immediate postoperative measurements.

Henry, G. D., Carrion, R., Jennermann, C., & Wang, R. u. n. (2015). Prospective evaluation of postoperative penile rehabilitation: Penile length/girth maintenance 1 year following Coloplast Titan inflatable penile prosthesis. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 12(5), Article 5. https://doi.org/10.1111/jsm.12833

But should you also use VEDs? Well, it might not be necessary, but I thought I found something really good here only until I thought about it a little more:

Patients using the vacuum protocol seem satisfied with their postoperative penile length regardless of the type of cylinder implanted. We have used all the inflatable cylinders available from both manufacturers (AMS CX, AMS LGX, Mentor Alpha 1, Coloplast Titan) with vacuum preparation and no cylinder had better outcomes than the others. Early in our experience, we used a preponderance of lengthening cylinders (AMS LGX) believing it to theoretically be the ideal cylinder for this protocol. In recent years, however, we have no preference since the LGX failed to show superiority in patient satisfaction and can become a liability (“s” shape deformity) if the patient was not compliant with the post operative daily inflation (Figure 4).

Sellers, T., Dineen, M., Salem, E. A., & Wilson, S. K. (2013). Vacuum preparation, optimization of cylinder length, and postoperative daily inflation reduces complaints of shortened penile length following implantation of inflatable penile prosthesis. Advances in Sexual Medicine, 3(1), 14–18. https://doi.org/10.4236/asm.2013.31003

Technically that is only saying that using a VED before surgery was equally helpful in giving men good sizes of those different implant types, but it doesn't mention using them post-op.

I can't seem to find any information on using VEDs after specifically a Titan implant. Doesn't mean it's not out there, I just can't find it. But there's tons of proof it's best to use VEDs months before, and there's tons of proof modern implants are no longer causing size losses, and there's large amounts of proof that VEDs have a positive result in increasing size and aren't having a negative effect on any types of implant post-op.

Can my final answer cite Dr. Hakky telling me in a video that after giving me my Titan that "If we're not happy in 6-12 months of vacuum stretching, which you can't do for 4 weeks or 6 weeks after surgery..." If the best known implant specialists are giving men Titans and AMSs and other brands are telling their patients to use VEDs after surgery for 6-12 months, that means you can too.

About your PTSD from the pump grabbing your balls, I do understand that and want to share how I bet none of us knew we could do this shit to our dicks. First time using a VED I asked OregonStrong here if it was gonna break my dick. But it didn't, because they don't. To pass on what others taught me, you'll eventually get used to it.


Is there a proper way to use a VED without anything scary happening ?

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby easymoney » Sun Mar 02, 2025 7:29 am

I have a Rigicon and was told to use a VED 6 weeks before surgery but mot afterwards due to the possibility of stretching the tissue too much and getting floppy glans.
Rigicon since 6-2023 happy to share my experience and do show and tell

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby 2435tjklAS » Sun Mar 02, 2025 12:19 pm

Copilot77 wrote:Is there a proper way to use a VED without anything scary happening ?

I don't think there's much of a proper way. For me it seems easiest laying down on your back. While putting on the VED hold your balls with the other hand as far away as possible and place the VED highest upwards away from them. For the pressure amount I think it's natural to assume you don't need to make yourself suffer but being somewhat aggressive is helpful. Using a VED without anything scary happening depends on your experience. I can understand why it worries you but the medical research is very consistent that they are not causing any real problems at all. These are four good reads I've posted before - first two informs you of the safety and efficacy of these vacuum devices, with the last two showing why they are helpful with implants pre and post-surgery.

This is how they work:
VED, which are traditionally a closed end plastic cylinder placed over the penis, use negative pressure via a battery or hand-operated vacuum suction to increase penile blood flow via distension of corporal sinusoids. This negative pressure subsequently induces arterial blood flow into the sinusoidal spaces of cavernosal tissues. Doppler studies have shown nearly a 2-fold increase in cavernosal artery diameter with use of VED.¹ Notably, VED can stimulate oxygenation of corpora without need for an intact nerve supply, a benefit vs pharmacological options for erectile dysfunction such as PDEi-5.

Mehr, J., Santarelli, S., Green, T. P., Beetz, J., Panuganti, S., & Wang, R. (2022). Emerging roles of penile traction therapy and vacuum erectile devices. Sexual Medicine Reviews, 10(3), 421–433. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.sxmr.2021.12.003

Here's why they're safe:
The vacuum erection device (VED) is the oldest therapy used for male sexual function among all approved modalities. It was introduced for erectile dysfunction (ED) nearly 150 years ago, cleared by U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 1982 and adopted by American Urological Association (AUA) in 1996 as a standard of care.¹ Significant amount of clinic evidence has proven the effectiveness of VED for ED since the early 1980s.

Wang, R. (2022). Is there still a role for vacuum erection devices in contemporary sexual medicine? The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 19(5), 682–685. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2022.02.013

Use a VED before surgery. Here's why:
When pre-operative VED is used, SPL could increase by a mean of 0.80  0.38 cm. In addition, the surgeon is provided with better opportunity to restore longer penile length that replicates an appearance more consistent with the patient’s natural erection. Ease of corporal dilation allows for an appropriate size cylinder to be inserted, and thus helps to maximize patient satisfaction post-operatively. There were no negative intraoperative complications associated with the use of pre-operative VED, and therefore, if patients have access to it, VEDs can safely be recommended. Future studies among larger samples will help assess the long-term outcomes and outline the role of VED as a valuable intervention prior to PP implantation.

Canguven, O., Talib, R. A., Campbell, J., De Young, L., El Ansari, W., & Al-Ansari, A. (2017). Is the daily use of vacuum erection device for a month before penile prosthesis implantation beneficial? A randomized controlled trial. Andrology, 5(1), 103–106. https://doi.org/10.1111/andr.12258

Use a VED after surgery too. Here's why:
Penile shortening after inflatable penile prosthesis placement for erectile dysfunction is a common postoperative patient complaint and can reduce overall satisfaction with the procedure. In this prospective study we report our results regarding penile dimensions and patient satisfaction outcomes after 1 year of follow-up from AMSTMLGX700® penile prosthesis implant with 6 months of vacuum erectile device therapy. Seventy-four selected patients with medically refractory erectile dysfunction underwent AMSTM LGX 700® IPP placement. Postoperatively, patients were assigned vacuum device therapy for 5 min twice daily. Follow-up continued for 1 year after surgery. Dimensional and functional results were assessed. Baseline median preoperative stretched penile length and girth were 14 cm (range 10-17) and 9 cm (range 7-12), respectively. At the end of the study penile median dimensional outcomes were 17 cm (range 13-23) for length and 11 cm (range 10-13) for girth while a median number of 24 pumps (range 18–29) to fully inflate the device was seen. Baseline median International Index of Erectile Function (IIEF-5) score was 9 (range 5-11), at 6 months 20 (range 18-26) and at 1 year was 25 (range 20-27) (p<0.0001). Median Erectile Dysfunction Inventory of Treatment Satisfaction (EDITS) score at the end of the follow-up was 74 (range 66–78). Our postoperative rehabilitation program is feasible and should be recommended after prothesis surgery in order to increase overall satisfaction with the procedure. Penile postoperative dimensional outcomes were statistically significant improved and complications were negligible.

Antonini, G., De Berardinis, E., Busetto, G. M., Del Giudice, F., Chung, B. I., Conti, S. L., Ferro, M., Musi, G., Fragas, R., De Cobelli, O., Sperduti, I., Gross, M. S., & Perito, P. E. (2020). Postoperative vacuum therapy following AMSTM LGX 700® inflatable penile prosthesis placement: Penile dimension outcomes and overall satisfaction. International Journal of Impotence Research, 32(1), 133–139. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41443-019-0125-z

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40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Replaced Titan Classic Jan. 14, 2025.

Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.

Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: Smaller

Goal: 10+" x 6+"

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby Copilot77 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:20 am

sonnyjim wrote:You will definitely gain size with cycling. I remember just after my surgery I felt like crying.

Okay thanks

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby Rider1400 » Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:59 am

Copilot77 wrote:
Rider1400 wrote:You have same size implant as I do and same RTEs I’m close to 7 in length and over 6” in girth which is definitely up from any time pre implant. I was over an inch short at first pump after implant as most are. It will come back if properly sized which sounds like you probably are. Time will heal most things that have to do with issues with your implant. Hang in there…. Best is yet to cum…



That’s good to hear Rider!

Def makes me very excited for the future.

Q: Oh wow, I wonder if this is a big dick size compared to the implant size we have .

Q: What was your size pre op ?

For me I was a little over 6 inches erect

And the doc measure me semi erect at 5.7 for some reason.

On another note, I haven’t seen my 6.5 to 7 inch penis in 5 plus years after I got the injury that caused my ED, so it would be cool to get all that back with this .

I was 6-3/4” prior to implant and about 5-3/4” girth at base tapering to 5-1/4 at glands. Post implant a year later I’m back to 6-3/4” length and 6-1/4” girth at base and tapering to 5-3/4” at glands. So same length and a noticeable improvement on girth.
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast with Classic pump 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby Copilot77 » Sun Mar 09, 2025 1:35 pm

Alright boys now I'm 5.5 pumped.

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby MarkJack » Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:52 pm

Copilot77 wrote:Alright boys now I'm 5.5 pumped.


Awesome stuff bro.

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Re: I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

Postby Copilot77 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:38 pm

Rider1400 wrote:
Copilot77 wrote:
Rider1400 wrote:You have same size implant as I do and same RTEs I’m close to 7 in length and over 6” in girth which is definitely up from any time pre implant. I was over an inch short at first pump after implant as most are. It will come back if properly sized which sounds like you probably are. Time will heal most things that have to do with issues with your implant. Hang in there…. Best is yet to cum…



That’s good to hear Rider!

Def makes me very excited for the future.

Q: Oh wow, I wonder if this is a big dick size compared to the implant size we have .

Q: What was your size pre op ?

For me I was a little over 6 inches erect

And the doc measure me semi erect at 5.7 for some reason.

On another note, I haven’t seen my 6.5 to 7 inch penis in 5 plus years after I got the injury that caused my ED, so it would be cool to get all that back with this .

I was 6-3/4” prior to implant and about 5-3/4” girth at base tapering to 5-1/4 at glands. Post implant a year later I’m back to 6-3/4” length and 6-1/4” girth at base and tapering to 5-3/4” at glands. So same length and a noticeable improvement on girth.


Wow man that's some serious girth improvement damn. That's basically penile enlargement.


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