AMS 700 UltrexTM

[JerGeezer]

Length from my previous AMS Ultrex implants (two that were in there for a total of 18 years) decreased by about 1/4 inch with this AMS LGX, while girth is a little larger than before. The cylinders of this AMS LGX implant have several "S" shapes and deformities that would be obvious to even a stranger off the street, if I let them feel it. How my urologist can say this implant is satisfactory is beyond me. Nobody around here will give a second opinion, probably because they're all friends. Since I'm 71 and don't really want to go through this surgery for a forth time, I'm not going to run all over the place trying to find a urologist who will give a second opinion. After living with perfect implants for 18 years, I know how this is supposed to be. After AMS first furnishing the hospital with the wrong implant (and my being prepped and sedated and nobody telling me until forty-five minutes after surgery was scheduled), and a couple weeks later providing this one with deformed cylinders, I will never again have confidence in American Medical Systems. Although many men are completely satisfied with AMS, there are many of us who are not. Do what I should have done by searching online for AMS court cases, suits, or whatnot. Since I've never seen complaints about implants manufactured by Coloplast, I suggest you go with the Coloplast Titan.

[Bigtime071]

Thank you JerGeezer for responding so quickly. I have heard alot of good about the ams and the coloplast . I know the ams is supposed to lengthen and the coloplast doesnt. I dont know which one to get . I guess I will just have to trust the dr. He wants tto use the ams though. Maybe I can see if he can use the colplast. Thanks for the info.

[Olivero66]

Hello JerGeezer,

The well known S-shape deformity can normally only be result of too big(long) dimensioned cylinders. A production defect resulting in S-curves is something quite unlikely.
The crucial problem with LGX (as well as Ultrex in the past): The risk of implanting something too long is higher than on AMS 700 CX or Coloplast Titan. With the latter ones you implant what you've measured; with the former ones you've gotta substract 1-2 cm, and this calculus sometimes needs to be lucky. You might substract too much or too less, and what failure might have occurred intra-op reveals not before some weeks later.
In my humble opinion your surgeon committed some mistake at your last op.

[JerGeezer]

You might be right, Olinero66, but the specifications on the surgery report indicate he installed the same implant (formerly the Ultrex, now called the LGX) that is the same size as the two that had been in there for eighteen years. Were it too long, surely I'd feel pressure on the head when fully inflated, as was the case with my first two implants, but I don't feel that pressure with this one. The cylinders increase in length to a certain point at which time further inflation simply enlarges the diameter. It's my understanding that the LGX is designed to proportionately increase in length and diameter at the same time until fully inflated. I suspect it is the defective mechanics of the cylinders, as was the case a few years ago when AMS was sued for manufacturing defective cylinders. Were I desirous of having a fourth surgery to have this one replaced, believe me, I would follow through on getting to the bottom of this problem. The implant I have is adequate for it's intended purpose, which beats not being able to get it up at all, so other than complaining here I'll probably not pursue the matter. I'm also not really fond of again risking infection.

Mainly, I just want those thinking about getting implants to understand that this surgery does not always have the desired results. For eighteen years I was happy as could be with my AMS Ultrex, so I hope to not discourage anyone from getting one. I do want them to be aware of potential problems, though.

Other guys have had far worse experiences than I have. I feel real bad for them.

[Olivero66]

You might be right, Olinero66, but the specifications on the surgery report indicate he installed the same implant (formerly the Ultrex, now called the LGX) that is the same size as the two that had been in there for eighteen years. Were it too long, surely I'd feel pressure on the head when fully inflated, as was the case with my first two implants, but I don't feel that pressure with this one. The cylinders increase in length to a certain point at which time further inflation simply enlarges the diameter. It's my understanding that the LGX is designed to proportionately increase in length and diameter at the same time until fully inflated. I suspect it is the defective mechanics of the cylinders, as was the case a few years ago when AMS was sued for manufacturing defective cylinders. Were I desirous of having a fourth surgery to have this one replaced, believe me, I would follow through on getting to the bottom of this problem. The implant I have is adequate for it's intended purpose, which beats not being able to get it up at all, so other than complaining here I'll probably not pursue the matter. I'm also not really fond of again risking infection.

Well, I guess it's here about a general problem: The more complex a technique becomes, the higher the failure rate will climb. So in your case it's obviously (and unfortunately) a production defect. To Expand in girth and length steadily and proportionally is something not so easy to put into work. Furthermore, AMS has been bought by a pharmaceutical firm some time ago, and now they're no more developping and producing as effective and committed to severe quality criteria as before. Thus it might be qite risky to let one implant an AMS LGX model.

[inthezone]

After having my AMS LGX for a year, I've gained almost a 3/4 of an inch longer than I was prior to surgery. And the girth good. I have a healthy upward curve when pumped. I attribute the curve to my Suspensory Ligament, which I can watch pulling tight like a bowstring as the implant inflates. My girlfriend likes the curve because it hits her G-spot in the missionary position. I'm 40 years old. My surgeon admitted the AMS takes some guesswork to allow for the 20% expansion. I think the Titan is less risky, but I think the Titan would've left me with a shorter length. And, side by side with the AMS LGX, the Titan looks 'industrial strength', with a pump that is supposed to also be more robust.
DEFLATED: my AMS does seem to twist and kink and feels strange. This twisting of the AMS is probably what my surgeon meant when he said the Titan would be more firm deflated.

[Olivero66]

My surgeon admitted the AMS takes some guesswork to allow for the 20% expansion. I think the Titan is less risky, but I think the Titan would've left me with a shorter length. And, side by side with the AMS LGX, the Titan looks 'industrial strength', with a pump that is supposed to also be more robust.
DEFLATED: my AMS does seem to twist and kink and feels strange. This twisting of the AMS is probably what my surgeon meant when he said the Titan would be more firm deflated.

All that is absolutely true. There is some guesswork about length expansion, and if it fails, shit happens. The firmness of the deflated Titan is mor comfortable in everyday life than the formless flabbiness of the AMS.