Have you gained size after cycling stopped hurting ?

[LetoMan]

Thanks, Headair. Shorter ChatGPT is exactly what I said: neither the Titan nor the CX expand in length.

Length gains come from the tunica accommodating the implant, not from a length expansion of the implant.

I really don’t understand why this Edjohn guy is trying to pick a fight with me on multiple threads, and with demonstrably wrong information.

[Headair123]

Thanks, Headair. Shorter ChatGPT is exactly what I said: neither the Titan nor the CX expand in length.

Length gains come from the tunica accommodating the implant, not from a length expansion of the implant.

I really don’t understand why this Edjohn guy is trying to pick a fight with me on multiple threads, and with demonstrably wrong information.

Don't know, my friend.

Sometimes, people can be a bit too dogmatic. I almost got into a fight with someone on this board. But, I stopped myself with the realization that neither of us is going to look good in front of the rest of the community.

So, patience.

[Kodixx]

Leto, thank you for the feedback, and especially your own experience. That would indicate that the change in pain may be more about healing rather than pressing the tunica to expand. Maybe the tunica is more pliable, and/or lacks nerves to register pain when the implant presses on the tissue to expand ?
From your last comment, I guess it would be fair to say that for CX's --
- gains in length come from the body, all tissue, expanding to accommodate the constant max length of the cylinders ?
- gains in girth come from the tunica (and surrounding tissue) expanding to accommodate the cylinders gradually expanding to their max possible girth ?

- Chuck

Chuck, I’m not a believer that gains are pain-dependent. I didn’t have much pain after first few months, but had most of my gains later.

As for the dependent/independent distinction, keep in mind that is only for girth. Both the titan and the CX are “dependent” when it comes to length. Neither expands lengthwise.

[Kodixx]

Headair123, thanks for passing that along. That's consistent with what I've read also.

- Chuck

Regarding the Titan lengthening, I did a quick ChatGPT search and this is what came back:

What “the medical establishment” says (Titan-only):
• Coloplast’s own Titan materials talk about strength and girth expansion, not length expansion. They explicitly market maximum girth expansion (up to 21 mm per cylinder) and the ability of the Bioflex cylinders to withstand high pressures (for things like manual modeling), but they don’t claim the device is designed to elongate under pressure. 
• Bench / ex-vivo commentary cited in the literature suggests “essentially no measurable cylinder lengthening” at max inflation. One review notes that at maximum inflation an 18 cm Titan remained 18 cm, i.e., no meaningful axial elongation of the cylinder itself even when filled to the top. 

Titan isn’t “length-expanding” in the mechanical sense (the cylinder doesn’t meaningfully elongate under high pressure), but max inflation over time can still translate into small real-world length gains because the body adapts (and because “length” is partly geometry and measurement technique, not just cylinder dimensions).

[Kodixx]

Leto & Headair123, I've recently had the same experience with another forum member who, when confronted with facts, responded by calling me "an old man with no girl".

LOL -- very stupid -- after all, I literally have the receipts

I have a conspiracy theory. I believe these accounts are reincarnations of the person, or persons, who used to operate the TooYoung account. I just don't think they want to go quietly into that good night.

- Chuck

I really don’t understand why this Edjohn guy is trying to pick a fight with me on multiple threads, and with demonstrably wrong information.

Sometimes, people can be a bit too dogmatic. I almost got into a fight with someone on this board. But, I stopped myself with the realization that neither of us is going to look good in front of the rest of the community.

[edjohn]

I am not interested in fighting with anybody, but I am not just going to say nothing when people use ChatGPT to gaslight new guys and others who literally experience growth. Here is a medical study that I referenced that “demonstrably” indicates Titans lengthen beyond spec.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5654325/

Because it is a conservative amount and requires higher pressure, Coloplast doesn’t advertise it as a selling point. Likely they are trying not to give false hope as well.

Sometimes, people can be a bit too dogmatic.

This, exactly. Most people are too dogmatic that implants never expand in length and you will never gain a mm you didn't have naturally when both of these are simply not true. Dr. Clavell said explicitly, that the AMS advantage is little more than marketing catch phrase, and every implant is an inflatable that expands lengthwise. The AMS shrinks more than the others when deflated, but they all increase in length. The studies literally show this, but because this Dr or that Dr told them otherwise, most guys dig in their heels as if it's connected to their identity.

All I want is to present the rest of the story, so guys aren't choosing an implant based on "well this is the only one that will get my length back" or what have you. Shutting down open discussion of information like the study above doesn't help anyone.

[cbinspok]

kodixx
my 2 cents is enjoy your bionic manness! pull on it, twist it, screw a lot, more gains will come with time and everything has relaxed.

[edjohn]

I was thinking about how bad it stings when left inflated too long and I have another theory. Since it doesn’t hurt at first and then after 20m or so begins to sting (like shooting pains) a friend suggested it could be acute hypoxia similar to cycle cell priapism i.e. a mini compartment syndromes around the implant.

So my theory is perhaps the cycling process involves killing off the soft tissue surrounding implant and once this is complete there is nothing sensitive left inside there which lets you fuck for hours at full mast without discomfort.

Somebody should pose this question to their doc next time they talk… like do they see healthy soft tissue remaining when they perform a revision or is it all atrophied/calcified/converted to fibrotic tissue etc.? I have no upcoming consultations and don’t need a revision but I am jotting this down!