Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

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ss1080
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Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:15 pm

I am extremely dissatisfied with Dr. Montague. He performed a penile
implant procedure on me in Nov 2014. He did not utilize a 3 piece
implant (LGX, Titan etc..) because he was afraid of possible complications
arising from the placement of the reservoir in my abdomen, as I have
abdominal mesh on the right side of my abdomen (But none on the left
side where the reservoir could have easily been placed). I should mention,
in 2012 I had a cancerous tumor removed from my sacrum
along with S2 and below, hence the need for an implant.

Instead, Dr. Montague opted to use a 2 piece implant (Ambicor) which
has no reservoir. As it tuns out, his decision was a very poor one and
perhaps motivated by fear more than anything else. Briefly, the end
result was that I received an implant which decreased my penis length
tremendously (About 1.5 inches less) and also reduced my girth substantially.
Furthermore, the Ambicor is incapable of becoming substantially flaccid,
this resulted in a very embarrassing and unsightly bulge in my crotch area
which always needed to be covered with a shirt. The implant is also a
pain to inflate, as it requires a bit of strength and maneuvering to fully
deploy.

(To make things worse, Dr. Montague has a brusque bedside manner.
Bluntly speaking, the man has the warmth of an ice cube coupled with a
hefty dose of arrogance. He is excessively economical with his words
which makes him appear terse & condescending.)

Highly displeased I subsequently sought the help of a well known
urologist on the East coast. He told me that he could easily implant a 3
piece prosthesis and that placement of the reservoir would be no
problem. In fact, he told me that he has placed a reservoir in over a
hundred patients that actually have bilateral mesh, not just on one side
as is my case, with absolutely NO complications.

Long story short, the revision surgery went perfectly. FYI: My new
surgeon told me that Dr. Montague incorrectly sized the Ambicor
which as mentioned, resulted in a loss of about 1.5 inches ! Luckily I recovered (most)
this loss of length due to my doctors ability to properly size the new implant (LGX).
The girth came back as well, in a cosmetic sense my penis looks "normal" now.
Further, my new surgeon told me that Dr. Montague made an unnecessarily large incision
on my scrotum (Both utilized a scrotal approach).

Lastly and most interestingly, he told me that it took him under 30 seconds to place
the reservoir in the left side of my abdomen! 30 SECONDS! He was rather amazed and puzzled
that Dr. Montague was unwilling to use the newer and far more well received 3
piece implant, especially in light of the fact that I have mesh placed only on my
right abdominal wall, not the left!

I consulted over 3 urologists before/after my penile
implant procedure with Dr. Montague. These surgeons are from top
tier institutions such as Johns Hopkins and Columbia. All of them
emphatically stated that they had no issues utilizing the 3 piece
implant despite the mesh on my right abdominal wall. Though I ended
up choosing Dr. Montague due to Cleveland Clinic's reputation and
the hospital's somewhat close proximity to my new place of
residence. (Had I not moved out of state recently I would not have
chosen Dr. Montague. )

Dr. Montague wasted a lot of my time and money. He caused me
unnecessary pain and mental anguish. Needless to say, I absolutely do
not recommend him. He is immeasurably conservative and has a rather
poor bedside manner.

Folks, it is not the institution which is paramount, rather it is the
surgeon or doctor. Do your homework, visit as many doctors as
reasonably possible, get references and do not be afraid to speak up.

All the best.

(Please note I have NO affiliation with any medical doctors, medical institutions or medical companies. I'm just a regular person who needed a penile prosthesis. )
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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:50 pm

MarloStanfield1940 wrote:I have to ask.... and I know you don't want to get the 2nd surgeon (the clearly more skilled/well known guy) in trouble, though he's the guy who "saved" you and put in the correct device. But this sounds like Kramer or Eid, maybe Cornell or Perito was the 2nd guy who fixed Montague's Ambicor disaster. I think only Kramer would pull that off or do that type of revision, but I'll let you tell us if you feel comfortable.



Sent you a PM.

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:51 am

MarloStanfield1940 wrote:I have to ask.... and I know you don't want to get the 2nd surgeon (the clearly more skilled/well known guy) in trouble, though he's the guy who "saved" you and put in the correct device. But this sounds like Kramer or Eid, maybe Cornell or Perito was the 2nd guy who fixed Montague's Ambicor disaster. I think only Kramer would pull that off or do that type of revision, but I'll let you tell us if you feel comfortable.



Yep, feel a bit uncomfortable after posting my new doc's very candid comments about Dr. Montague. Anyone who wants to know can PM me.

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby KMeister » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:02 pm

I'm very sorry to hear about your past experience with Dr. Montague in Ohio. Thank you for posting about him. This website exists in part for us to share information with each other, information that will help others make an informed decision.

You mentioned that this doctor costs you time and money. Did you pay out of pocket or did your health insurance company kick in some do-re-mi? I encourage you to at least talk to a couple of lawyers to see if you can get some of your money back.

KMeister

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:31 pm

I'm on disability and am forced to go with Medicare despite the fact that my wife has excellent private insurance. So we will see what happens. Did spend money on airfare, hotel etc...



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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby dg_moore » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:02 am

ss1080 wrote:I'm on disability and am forced to go with Medicare despite the fact that my wife has excellent private insurance. So we will see what happens. Did spend money on airfare, hotel etc...



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I received your PM; presumably the others did as well.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:24 pm

dg_moore wrote:
ss1080 wrote:I'm on disability and am forced to go with Medicare despite the fact that my wife has excellent private insurance. So we will see what happens. Did spend money on airfare, hotel etc...



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I received your PM; presumably the others did as well.



Thanks DG.

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby soulforged » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:35 pm

Is that video about your case?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1FHQAyDu8Y8
Cause it sounds exactly the same

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby ss1080 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:37 pm

lol, you guys are persistent. Yep, cats out of the bag!

The Ambicor is awful, very narrow, gives an unnatural appearance.
So Glad that damn thing is out.

Kramer is a great guy and a great surgeon. My
whole experience with him and staff was incredibly smooth.

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Re: Very Poor Outcome - Dr.Drogo Montague Cleveland Clinic

Postby stringerbell » Sat Apr 11, 2015 8:22 pm

I think that video is pretty impressive. That surgeon matter of factly answers why the original surgery wasn't good and how he fixes it point by point. I like it


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