Loss of girth, too hard

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Gacleader1
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Loss of girth, too hard

Postby Gacleader1 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:32 am

It has been 8 months since my surgery, and I wish I could say that I am happy, but the reality is I am not. I had the AMS700 LGX, and although the loss of length is minimal, the loss of girth is extreme, having lost over an inch. If I inflate hard enough for penetration, it approaches the original length, but it is like two pencils side by side. Hard as a rock with no cushion at all as if the cylinders are right against the skin. The oval shape is not that big of an issue, I just wish there was some kind of cushion between the cylinders and the skin.

My wife has pointed out how much smaller is is, and how it is not comfortable for her. I don't even ask anymore to have sex as I am so self conscious about it.

Has anyone else had s similar result. I keep reading about how normal it feels, but I just do get anywhere close to that.

For those who have had a similar result, has anyone had anything done to improve it? Fat injections? Silicone sleeves implanted? Anything else?

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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby Tybeeman » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:07 am

Gacleader1 wrote:It has been 8 months since my surgery, and I wish I could say that I am happy, but the reality is I am not. I had the AMS700 LGX, and although the loss of length is minimal, the loss of girth is extreme, having lost over an inch. If I inflate hard enough for penetration, it approaches the original length, but it is like two pencils side by side. Hard as a rock with no cushion at all as if the cylinders are right against the skin. The oval shape is not that big of an issue, I just wish there was some kind of cushion between the cylinders and the skin.

My wife has pointed out how much smaller is is, and how it is not comfortable for her. I don't even ask anymore to have sex as I am so self conscious about it.

Has anyone else had s similar result. I keep reading about how normal it feels, but I just do get anywhere close to that.

For those who have had a similar result, has anyone had anything done to improve it? Fat injections? Silicone sleeves implanted? Anything else?


You may want to put in a signature with your stats, dates and doctor
PC at age 56
RALP on 2/16
Implant on 6/26/2017 Doctor Tariq Hakky
Coloplast Titan OTR, 22cm with 1 cm RTE

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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby Larry10625 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:23 am

Gacleader1 wrote:It has been 8 months since my surgery, and I wish I could say that I am happy, but the reality is I am not. I had the AMS700 LGX, and although the loss of length is minimal, the loss of girth is extreme, having lost over an inch. If I inflate hard enough for penetration, it approaches the original length, but it is like two pencils side by side. Hard as a rock with no cushion at all as if the cylinders are right against the skin. The oval shape is not that big of an issue, I just wish there was some kind of cushion between the cylinders and the skin.

My wife has pointed out how much smaller is is, and how it is not comfortable for her. I don't even ask anymore to have sex as I am so self conscious about it.

Has anyone else had s similar result. I keep reading about how normal it feels, but I just do get anywhere close to that.

For those who have had a similar result, has anyone had anything done to improve it? Fat injections? Silicone sleeves implanted? Anything else?



You should consider adding a signature. It's difficult to offer you advice without the info. I would contact your doctor and tell him/her your problem and let him/her know that you are not pleased.

Larry

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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby JayGould » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:47 am

I am sorry to hear that, it must truly suck (I know because I have lost an inch of girth as well, not with an implant however).

Have you talked to Eid or Kramer? Perhaps you should do a replacement surgery. Maybe go for a Titan instead. That's probably what I would've done.

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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby sliphill » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:32 am

Gacleader1 wrote:It has been 8 months since my surgery, and I wish I could say that I am happy, but the reality is I am not. I had the AMS700 LGX, and although the loss of length is minimal, the loss of girth is extreme, having lost over an inch. If I inflate hard enough for penetration, it approaches the original length, but it is like two pencils side by side. Hard as a rock with no cushion at all as if the cylinders are right against the skin. The oval shape is not that big of an issue, I just wish there was some kind of cushion between the cylinders and the skin.

My wife has pointed out how much smaller is is, and how it is not comfortable for her. I don't even ask anymore to have sex as I am so self conscious about it.

Has anyone else had s similar result. I keep reading about how normal it feels, but I just do get anywhere close to that.

For those who have had a similar result, has anyone had anything done to improve it? Fat injections? Silicone sleeves implanted? Anything else?


From what I have read, usually guys with good girth to begin with are better off with the Titan. I have the LGX and am about 10 weeks post op. My girth is about where I was prior to implant, although I haven't actually measured it. But I have also read one guy in particular say that it takes more than a year for the LGX to expand all the way. I'd say give it more time. As far as the hardness, yes mine gets quite hard, but the little lady hasn't complained about it. Hey the implant might not be perfect, but for someone who wasn't getting a hard on for almost a year, it's damn close.
Ed (sliphill) 68

Implanted by Dr. Michael O'Neill in Charlotte, NC on 6/9/2017 with AMS 700LGX. 18 cm cylinders 3 cm RTE's.

Revision done by Dr. Maxim McKibbon in Charlotte, NC on 4/12/2023 with AMD 700 LGX 22 cm cylinders gm

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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby shooter1000 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:01 pm

I am back to pre-op length. I lost aboout 1/2 inch in girth (5 1/2 to 5), but i seem to be slowly getting a little of that back. Girth definitely increases with stimulation. My partners overall love that hardness. In fairness they are very young and very fit (personal trainer etc.)
Age 75 Implanted by Dr. Andrew Kramer 03/22/2017. AMS 700 LGX 18 CM with 2 Cm RTE for a total of 20 CM. Previously used injections over 1000 no scarring

TANGERINE
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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby TANGERINE » Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:58 am

I am so sorry to hear about this. Hopefully the LGX will become better with time (I think the LGX requires a more prolonged stretching routine ?). This girth complaint has come up before on Franktalk. The complaint does seem to be with AMS models (?? especially the LGX ???).

With the titan, I am happy with the girth, but the flacid, in my case at 6 months, is not very good (my dick sticks out when I am nude, so I woud be embarassed at a nudist colony since I look like I have a "half chub stiffie" when walking aorund nude and deflated. Please note, with pants on, there is no issue and I do not "show particularly" with flat dress pants -- with clothing, I am totally normal.

I think some surgeons like the AMS CX better than LGX ????. There was a paper comparing CX versus titan which I have quoted before, and it stated the CX and Titan are equally liked by the sexual partner:




TANGERINE

Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions



Postby TANGERINE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:55 am
There is an article which used questionnaires for patient satisfaction. The good news, patients and their partners were happy with both implants !! So you are OK with either !!!!

Comparison of the patient and partner satisfaction with 700CX and Titan penile prostheses
Javier Romero Otero, et al

Most widespread three‐component penile prosthesis models are 700CXTM and Titan®. Our purpose is to assess patient and partner satisfaction after the first implant. This is a multicenter, retrospective, nonrandomized study in which all patients who met the inclusion criteria between 2009 and 2013 were included. In total, 248 patients agreed to participate. To evaluate patient satisfaction, a validated but modified 11‐question questionnaire was completed (EDITS); and a nonvalidated two‐item questionnaire was given to the partner. Statistical analysis used an ordinal logistic regression model. Two hundred and forty‐eight patients (194 with 700CXTM vs 54 with Titan®) and 207 couples completed the questionnaire (165 with 700CXTM vs 42 with Titan®). Overall satisfaction was high. Both showed great reliability for sexual intercourse and high compliance with prior expectations. Most patients were able to manage the penile prosthesis correctly within 6 months. Postoperative penile shortening led to some dissatisfaction in 42% and 46% of cases (700CXTM/Titan®). Significant differences were found in three questions of patients’ questionnaire. There were more patients satisfied with the 700CXTM (P = 0.0001). No patient with Titan® implant took longer than 6 months to optimal management. Only 4% of patients with 700CXTM implant were dissatisfied with the deflation, in contrast to 24% with the Titan® (P = 0.0031). Of the two partners’ questions, one showed a statistically significant difference (P = 0.0026). It seems that group 700CXTM would recommend to re‐implant the prosthesis with a greater tendency. The overall satisfaction was very high for both prostheses. The final aspect of the erected and flaccid penis was satisfactory, but both groups showed significant discontent with its final size. Partners’ overall satisfaction was high.



REFERENCE: Asian Journal of Andrology (2017) 19, 321–325; doi: 10.4103/1008-682X.172822; published online: 22 January 2016

CONCLUSIONS
Given the data in this study, it can be said that in the best possible scenario for a PP implant, the overall satisfaction is very high for both types of prosthesis. And while both groups found the final appearance of the penis, when erects and especially when flaccids, to be satisfactory, both showed significant discontent with its final size. The vast majority of the patients could manage the prosthesis within 6 months or less, and the degree of satisfaction of the partners is high. However, the optimal management of the 700CXTM took longer than with the Titan®, and the dissatisfaction with the deflation was higher with the Titan®.




REFEERENCE:
http://www.ajandrology.com/temp/AsianJAndrol193321-5287427_144114.pdf
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nudist
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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby nudist » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:50 am

tangerine:

" I woud be embarassed at a nudist colony since I look like I have a "half chub stiffie" when walking aorund nude and deflated."

walking around with a full erection might be disapproved, but a chubbie wouldn't be an issue. it is customary to carry a towel around to sit on so when walking or standing simply hold it in front of you around children would be advisable.

BTW, nudist "colony" is a very out dated term (conjures up the idea of leper colony). nudist resort is more accurate and accepted.

I am scheduled for a titan in late sept. and I certainly won't avoid resorts and nude beaches.

best wishes!
updated: 70 y.o., implanted with titan nov. 3 by Dr. Brady in orlando to correct peyronies. 20 cm with 3 cm RTEs. due to the severity of the peyronies, some internal excisions were made scrotally, recovery will probably take a little longer.

JayGould
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Re: Loss of girth, too hard

Postby JayGould » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:33 am

Tangerine / nudist - One thing I am looking forward to is to go on a public beach in Spain during high season with all the families etc and walk around with a pumped up dick. All beaches are nude beaches in Spain.


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