I have been a little dismayed at the confusion around something that is not rocket science. No one should be confused about how their pump is designed to work and it should work as designed.
I talked to a Coloplast Rep. today that had to contact Research & Development and will call me back. I was friendly but firm that I expect clear answers, not 3rd party miscommunication. When I hear back in the next day or two I will post here.
In the meantime here are some Coloplast videos. The first one DOES say one pump after deflation will help prevent auto-inflation.
https://www.coloplastmd.com/resources/i ... tan-touch/
Most here have said they have to hold the deflate valve while squeezing the penis to deflate (a two-hand operation)
This training video shows the opposite. https://www.coloplastmd.com/resources/t ... animation/
How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
I will not state who but a famous implanter told me in a conversation one day that " the coloplast pump is just a cheap knockoff of the AMS pump, 1 is glitchy the other one works sort of well most of the time".
Thank you for reaching out and hopefully seeing that 1 coloplast rep is trained. Coloplast had the worst rep I ever talked too. I commented on it here on FT about 1 billion posts ago. Though I do not like some aspects of the AMS/Boston implant, their customer support was good if you could get through to the right people Cheers.
Thank you for reaching out and hopefully seeing that 1 coloplast rep is trained. Coloplast had the worst rep I ever talked too. I commented on it here on FT about 1 billion posts ago. Though I do not like some aspects of the AMS/Boston implant, their customer support was good if you could get through to the right people Cheers.
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
Hawkman wrote:I have been a little dismayed at the confusion around something that is not rocket science. No one should be confused about how their pump is designed to work and it should work as designed.
I talked to a Coloplast Rep. today that had to contact Research & Development and will call me back. I was friendly but firm that I expect clear answers, not 3rd party miscommunication. When I hear back in the next day or two I will post here.
In the meantime here are some Coloplast videos. The first one DOES say one pump after deflation will help prevent auto-inflation.
https://www.coloplastmd.com/resources/i ... tan-touch/
Most here have said they have to hold the deflate valve while squeezing the penis to deflate (a two-hand operation)
This training video shows the opposite. https://www.coloplastmd.com/resources/t ... animation/
Very interesting the training video shows the reservoir tubing going between the cylinders. I have never seen any surgery video where it was done that way. Certainly would take a lot of dissection if it was a preconnected kit.
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
This is an interesting subject.
I think my experience in the matter is interesting for our understanding of how it works/is supposed to work.
As I have said many times before here, in the beginning I had issues with this. I thought that either the "One Touch" was nothing but marketing bullshit which didn't work in reality, or that my pump had some malfunction.
I had to hold the deflation button pressed during the whole deflation. I also had to squeeze my dick really hard with the other hand. That was, as I felt then, the only way to get a decent deflation. And even then, my flaccid did not hang straight down.
However, this changed with time. Moving forward till today, 32 months after surgery, deflation is a breeze, and the one touch works exactly as it is supposed to, well even better maybe since in the animated video above the man squeezes his dick to deflate.
All I have to do is just give the valve one firm press for 2-3 seconds and that's it.
My dick goes down by itself. No squeezing needed. And it goes down to a complete flaccid which hangs as straight down as my natural dick ever did.
I often deflate while still inside after having sex (yes, with one hand). This mimics very much a natural dick in how fast it goes down.
So what is the conclusion of this?
Apparently not all Titan Touch guys here have the same experience as me.
So, assuming I am telling the truth, which I do, what are the options?
A. The Titan Touch pump is a piece of crap and I am one of the few lucky ones which actually got one that works the way it is designed to work.
B. People not experiencing that the One Touch technique works are not doing it right. I.e. they don't press the deflate valve hard enough to open and keep the valve open. They just press it halfway and in that position the valve needs maintained pressure on the button to stay open. And the valve needs a break-in time to make it easier to press the valve open.
C. The whole thing is an installation issue, and some docs get it right more often than others.
I would say C sounds unlikely. This is a valve inside the pump, and should not be affected by installation, should it?
A and B are both possibilities. But I think B is more likely than many others think. I actually think this is the explanation for myself. The reason I could not get the one touch to work in the beginning was simply because I didn't press it hard enough. And believe me, I pressed it hard. Of course, I also think the valve has had its break-in time, and nowadays I don't need nearly as much force as I did in the beginning. I was really thinking to myself in the beginning that if I press any harder than this, the whole pump will implode, I'll crush it. So I didn't dare to press any harder.
It would be interesting to know what men who had their Titans for let's say minimum two years say about this. Do most of them have the same experience as me, or do they still feel the one touch doesn't work?
If there is a substantial difference between new implants and old, then that would support B.
If no difference, well then probably A. Or that most people still after two years just don't press hard enough, but in some way, if the force needed is so much more than people normally feel comfortable applying, we would still have A.
Good Luck.
I think my experience in the matter is interesting for our understanding of how it works/is supposed to work.
As I have said many times before here, in the beginning I had issues with this. I thought that either the "One Touch" was nothing but marketing bullshit which didn't work in reality, or that my pump had some malfunction.
I had to hold the deflation button pressed during the whole deflation. I also had to squeeze my dick really hard with the other hand. That was, as I felt then, the only way to get a decent deflation. And even then, my flaccid did not hang straight down.
However, this changed with time. Moving forward till today, 32 months after surgery, deflation is a breeze, and the one touch works exactly as it is supposed to, well even better maybe since in the animated video above the man squeezes his dick to deflate.
All I have to do is just give the valve one firm press for 2-3 seconds and that's it.
My dick goes down by itself. No squeezing needed. And it goes down to a complete flaccid which hangs as straight down as my natural dick ever did.
I often deflate while still inside after having sex (yes, with one hand). This mimics very much a natural dick in how fast it goes down.
So what is the conclusion of this?
Apparently not all Titan Touch guys here have the same experience as me.
So, assuming I am telling the truth, which I do, what are the options?
A. The Titan Touch pump is a piece of crap and I am one of the few lucky ones which actually got one that works the way it is designed to work.
B. People not experiencing that the One Touch technique works are not doing it right. I.e. they don't press the deflate valve hard enough to open and keep the valve open. They just press it halfway and in that position the valve needs maintained pressure on the button to stay open. And the valve needs a break-in time to make it easier to press the valve open.
C. The whole thing is an installation issue, and some docs get it right more often than others.
I would say C sounds unlikely. This is a valve inside the pump, and should not be affected by installation, should it?
A and B are both possibilities. But I think B is more likely than many others think. I actually think this is the explanation for myself. The reason I could not get the one touch to work in the beginning was simply because I didn't press it hard enough. And believe me, I pressed it hard. Of course, I also think the valve has had its break-in time, and nowadays I don't need nearly as much force as I did in the beginning. I was really thinking to myself in the beginning that if I press any harder than this, the whole pump will implode, I'll crush it. So I didn't dare to press any harder.
It would be interesting to know what men who had their Titans for let's say minimum two years say about this. Do most of them have the same experience as me, or do they still feel the one touch doesn't work?
If there is a substantial difference between new implants and old, then that would support B.
If no difference, well then probably A. Or that most people still after two years just don't press hard enough, but in some way, if the force needed is so much more than people normally feel comfortable applying, we would still have A.
Good Luck.
43 yo, ED forever from VL
Fit and active
Implanted December 2015
Titan XL 24 cm, no RTEs
Dr. Eid
Activated day 13
Sex after 3 weeks
Gained length and girth
So far It works perfectly
Only one advice: Find a world class surgeon
Fit and active
Implanted December 2015
Titan XL 24 cm, no RTEs
Dr. Eid
Activated day 13
Sex after 3 weeks
Gained length and girth
So far It works perfectly
Only one advice: Find a world class surgeon
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
Makes a lot of sense.....I haven’t had any issues with deflation and the progress to one solid squeeze seems attainable now I think about it
Cheers Merrix
Cheers Merrix
68,Titan Touch 22cm+1.5cm rte's op done in Melbourne Aust by Dr Chris Love-Feb 2017 Venous leakage over a 2 year period, did pills and Caverject. Length@ 3 1/2years is: 7+” erect, 6.5” flaccid and almost 6” girth. REZUM Feb 21 ejaculation now normal.
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
My experience is the same.
At the beginning the "one touch" feature was not working and I had to deflate with two hands
Nowadays, one very firm press for 3 or 4 seconds and my dick will go limp without me having to use my other hand or squeeze. The process of deflation on its own takes a minute or so and mimics perfectly how a natural dick goes down.
In my case after pressing the deflate button for 3-4 seconds, I feel a "pop" and I know my dick will go down without me having to do anything else.
Cheers
At the beginning the "one touch" feature was not working and I had to deflate with two hands
Nowadays, one very firm press for 3 or 4 seconds and my dick will go limp without me having to use my other hand or squeeze. The process of deflation on its own takes a minute or so and mimics perfectly how a natural dick goes down.
In my case after pressing the deflate button for 3-4 seconds, I feel a "pop" and I know my dick will go down without me having to do anything else.
Cheers
James. 38 yo. Lifetime ED. Tried pills, injections, and therapy.
Implanted 03/29/18 Titan 22cm with Dr. Eid
Implanted 03/29/18 Titan 22cm with Dr. Eid
Re: How the Titan Touch Is Really Supposed to Work
merrix wrote:I had to hold the deflation button pressed during the whole deflation. I also had to squeeze my dick really hard with the other hand. That was, as I felt then, the only way to get a decent deflation. And even then, my flaccid did not hang straight down.
However, this changed with time. Moving forward till today, 32 months after surgery, deflation is a breeze, and the one touch works exactly as it is supposed to, well even better
So, assuming I am telling the truth, which I do, what are the options?
A. The Titan Touch pump is a piece of crap and I am one of the few lucky ones which actually got one that works the way it is designed to work.
B. People not experiencing that the One Touch technique works are not doing it right. I.e. they don't press the deflate valve hard enough to open and keep the valve open. They just press it halfway and in that position the valve needs maintained pressure on the button to stay open. And the valve needs a break-in time to make it easier to press the valve open.
C. The whole thing is an installation issue, and some docs get it right more often than others.
Merrix, I have suspected "B" and now suspect "B" even more but rather than not doing it correctly I wonder if it is just a matter of breaking in the pump/button? It seems crazy they put a pump in an inexperienced guy that does not work as advertised until it has a two year break-in period.
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html
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merrix wrote:...t most people still after two years just don't press hard enough, but in some way, if the force needed is so much more than people normally feel comfortable applying, we would still have A..
The Coloplast representative called back with the information they got directly from the Coloplast Research and Development Department.
They said the Titan Touch IS a one hand deflating operation and that all you have to do is press down on th3e release valve - wait for 1 - 2 seconds, release the valve and squeeze the penis.
I couple this with the wisdom from Merrix's observation that he stumbled upon the fact that he had to press VERY hard, in fact, harder than he could ever imagine.
To make sure I cover all bases, this evening when I cycle I will:
Press the deflate valve Very hard for 2 seconds then let go
Wait 2 seconds
Squeeze my penis.
I will report back
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html
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OK, this evening I squeezed the deflate button with just about all my strength and I am not weak. I have good dexterity. I held it for 2 seconds.
A N D
It kinda worked. I let go of the button and squeezed my penis down although it did not seem the valve was open as far as it is if I squeeze a little more gently and hold. That is confusing since I would assume that having to squeeze and hold assumes you are only part way opening the valve.
My only remaining question is it the force of the squeeze that locks the valve open or is it the duration of the squeeze (2 seconds)? It must be the force as Merrix states because we all squeeze and hold for a good duration. I wonder if other men think the valve is not locked open when it is because the rate of flow seems slow in the locked position as opposed to holding it. Now, since my pump is new and this was my first attempt at this technique maybe it will get easier or become more clear in the days ahead.
A N D
It kinda worked. I let go of the button and squeezed my penis down although it did not seem the valve was open as far as it is if I squeeze a little more gently and hold. That is confusing since I would assume that having to squeeze and hold assumes you are only part way opening the valve.
My only remaining question is it the force of the squeeze that locks the valve open or is it the duration of the squeeze (2 seconds)? It must be the force as Merrix states because we all squeeze and hold for a good duration. I wonder if other men think the valve is not locked open when it is because the rate of flow seems slow in the locked position as opposed to holding it. Now, since my pump is new and this was my first attempt at this technique maybe it will get easier or become more clear in the days ahead.
Prostatectomy 2004-Bimix caused Peyronies-Viagra had little effect. Active sex life with wife of 50 yrs- been dependent on a VED for 10 yrs. 22cm Titan w/Dr. Eid Aug 7th See my Implant Journal -> http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/board,56.0.html
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I've been following this with great interest and did not want to post the theory I had until Hawkman had an answer.
His relayed answer is pop valve, and squeeze penis. So the penis still needs a squeeze.
Merrix's "B" more coincides with my theory which varies slightly. I think due to the "give" on the thumb tissue, scrotal tissue, and capsule around the pump valve, combined with 1) small size of the button and 2) very very slight difference in height of the button v.s. the surrounding valve, that the issue is that when you push the button in, some of us get to a point we are pushing on the valve body itself and can no-longer push the tiny center button in any further. If we stabbed it in with a small diameter blunt object dead center on the button or used the corner of a thumb nail, it might work as advertised but I see both as painful and injurious. I have tried various positions to try to be exact center to try this theory over the last few months with little success. At least thumb only trials. What I can say for certain, is that the HARDER I try to squeeze, the faster I can deflate. The push to deflate button definitely takes more pressure than the AMS/Boston and the buzz on that does give a clear signal. I've only had about 5 hours sleep in the last 48 hours so hoping this makes sense and I don't read tomorrow that I typed a wreck today. Cheers.
His relayed answer is pop valve, and squeeze penis. So the penis still needs a squeeze.
Merrix's "B" more coincides with my theory which varies slightly. I think due to the "give" on the thumb tissue, scrotal tissue, and capsule around the pump valve, combined with 1) small size of the button and 2) very very slight difference in height of the button v.s. the surrounding valve, that the issue is that when you push the button in, some of us get to a point we are pushing on the valve body itself and can no-longer push the tiny center button in any further. If we stabbed it in with a small diameter blunt object dead center on the button or used the corner of a thumb nail, it might work as advertised but I see both as painful and injurious. I have tried various positions to try to be exact center to try this theory over the last few months with little success. At least thumb only trials. What I can say for certain, is that the HARDER I try to squeeze, the faster I can deflate. The push to deflate button definitely takes more pressure than the AMS/Boston and the buzz on that does give a clear signal. I've only had about 5 hours sleep in the last 48 hours so hoping this makes sense and I don't read tomorrow that I typed a wreck today. Cheers.
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