AMS Ms pump recall

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Lost Sheep
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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:57 am

tomas1 wrote:It would help to actually know the percentage of failures with the pumps. Mine works well so far. I would still go with the LGX but it's your decision.

The letter from AMS which is attached to the original post states the percentage.
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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby alfa88 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:41 pm

Phew! I'm good. One month out and I'm just starting to have good times. ;)
53 years old, married 32 years. Decades of ED & PE. BPH. Tried Viagra W & W/O T-Shots, Levitra and Cialis, Edex, Trimix starter, medium, strong with poor results, VED. Implanted w/AMS700CX 21cm X 12mm w/1.5cm RTE by Dr. Leroy Jones 9/1/20

Gt1956
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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby Gt1956 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:49 pm

Indusvalley, I would suggest to not worry. Once the problem is identified (now). The affected inventory will be purged & destroyed. I don't see a prominent medical company selling known defective parts. I'm quite sure that they carry some kind of mal practice liability insurance. The insurance company will insist that this is to happen. By the time that you are ready for surgery this will be all over.
Now there is a very small chance that in some remote parts of the world there might be some affected inventory that gets missed. But I highly doubt that because it sounds like most of the implants are kept by the companies until needed. Thus the frequent comments about the AMS/Colopast representative was at the surgery.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby tomas1 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:03 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
tomas1 wrote:It would help to actually know the percentage of failures with the pumps. Mine works well so far. I would still go with the LGX but it's your decision.

The letter from AMS which is attached to the original post states the percentage.


Got it, 2%.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.

indusvalley
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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby indusvalley » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:46 pm

Gt1956 wrote:Indusvalley, I would suggest to not worry. Once the problem is identified (now). The affected inventory will be purged & destroyed. I don't see a prominent medical company selling known defective parts. I'm quite sure that they carry some kind of mal practice liability insurance. The insurance company will insist that this is to happen. By the time that you are ready for surgery this will be all over.
Now there is a very small chance that in some remote parts of the world there might be some affected inventory that gets missed. But I highly doubt that because it sounds like most of the implants are kept by the companies until needed. Thus the frequent comments about the AMS/Colopast representative was at the surgery.


Thanks! That puts me at ease. However, I am more likely to go with Coloplast Titan now based on the suggestion of the Dr. The only thing I worry about is the deflated state of Coloplast Titan, is the flaccid state a few inches less than the erect state? I know with LGX it expands and shrinks a bit, but does the same thing happen with CX and Titan also?
A young guy in his early 30s from South Asia. Implanted Titan 22cm by Dr. Tariq Hakky in Atlanta (Dec 2020). Amazing doctor! No pain during recovery. My size is 5.75” x 4.6” which is better than pre-OP size of 5.6” x 4.5”. Hoping to gain more in future.

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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby Gt1956 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:01 pm

No experience here, only what I've read. It seems that for Titans & I'm guessing the CX also. Basically they do not grow very much on inflation. I guess you could say it differently. They don't shrink a lot on deflation. However you want to say it, it's the same thing.
Having said that. I have also read that there are some men with Titans that do grow upon inflation. So I don't think it is a rule. Only general guidance. Might depend on how strong your tunica is.
Have you checked out the implant picture thread? I think that we have one.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby Lost Sheep » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:34 pm

indusvalley wrote:Thanks! That puts me at ease. However, I am more likely to go with Coloplast Titan now based on the suggestion of the Dr. The only thing I worry about is the deflated state of Coloplast Titan, is the flaccid state a few inches less than the erect state? I know with LGX it expands and shrinks a bit, but does the same thing happen with CX and Titan also?

A while back (couple years) there was a pair of pictures of a guy with a CX which showed a flaccid a LOT shorter than the erect. I found it hard to believe, but there was the evidence. So, yes, the CX (and according to many, the Coloplast devices) do retract in length between inflated (erect) and deflated (flaccid) by means of folds in the inflatable tubes (not unlike an accordion).
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AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

pholmes6060
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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby pholmes6060 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:05 pm

my surgeon informed me of the recall before my surgery on Oct 14, 2020. He gave me the choice of going ahead with a non recall pump or delaying the surgery. I went ahead with the surgery and so far so good at 2+ weeks.

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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby Gt1956 » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:39 pm

pholmes6060 wrote:my surgeon informed me of the recall before my surgery on Oct 14, 2020. He gave me the choice of going ahead with a non recall pump or delaying the surgery. I went ahead with the surgery and so far so good at 2+ weeks.

Mighty nice of him. Take the AMS or walk away.
Honestly I think that you made the right choice. As long as the batch of pumps that he had available to him had been sorted.
I haven't tracked the pumps. Does AMS only have 1 pump model? Just curious.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: AMS Ms pump recall

Postby wewokarents » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:08 pm

I'm not a lawyer nor have I ever played a lawyer on TV programs......however everyday there are lawsuits against defective products. I do NOT believe that the manufacturer of the defective implants or the parts thereof can refuse to pay for the surgery & hospital costs nor your time having a revision. I suggest that anyone affected contact a medical lawsuit attorney post haste.
Implant 1/28/2021. Dr Stephen A Johnson. Done at Baylor, Scott and White in Sherman, Texas. TRT since 2005, serious ED from 2004. Used nearly all PDE5 drugs. Injections failed. Started cycling at 1 week. Cycle most days. AMS 700 CX 23cm, 100ml reservoir.


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