Length loss with Eid

[stephen54]

Apparently length is important beyond risk management.
I am no doctor and cannot say neither that your dick will/won't grow from hanging a book in it, nor that it will damage your dick.
But - and this is big fuckin but - I would not risk it.
The trade-off: Potentially being 6.5" instead of 6" (which is meaningless, no woman will notice the difference) at the risk of damaging your dick for life. Seriously?
You say damage doesn't matter since you're getting implanted. Hmmm.
What if you damage the blood flow to your glans?
The implant won't fix that.
Having blood flow to the glans is something that in my opinion is the difference between the implant being the best solution available, but nowhere near the same feeling as fucking with a natural dick for you or your partner - or having what basically feels just the same for both you and your partner as a natural dick.
So be careful and don't do something you will regret.

I'm no doctor, either, just a guy doing his best to reconcile the whole spectrum of what guys share here anecdotally vs what my surgeon tells me vs shit tons of medical literature vs what just makes sense to me or doesn't.

Fully acknowledge - everyone is different (I'm referring to partners, the people we are planting our dicks into). But no part of me believes that, on the whole, a woman, a guy, a vagina, or an ass knows the difference between 6" and 6.5". It's just not credible. That's some story we're telling ourselves which just makes no sense. A difference of 2+ inches or something? Sure. You're banging up against her cervix at some point and that'll get her attention. Not in a positive way, typically.

Girth? Different fucking story altogether, I'll grant you that and I say that as a guy who's lost a full inch of girth post-implant and as a guy whose partner is a girth-loving penetration animal.

Whatever penile calisthenics and gymnastics work for you...awesome. I'm certainly not diminishing or judging any of that at all. But none of it is a risk-free endeavor. In terms of going into the implant path with the best healthiest dick possible...maybe just do that. There's risk inherent in every angle of implantation, why add more to the risk equation than is truly necessary? I just couldn't bring myself to stretch and put my dick in traction and all of that. That's just me.

To merrix's point on blood flow to the glans - this was a key part of the discussion I had with my surgeon two days ago at my one year follow up. I had an extremely competent surgeon and a great easy recovery and my new dick works like a charm. Very happy overall. But. And of course there's a "but"...

Via measurements before and after, and via photos, it's clear to he and I both (and certainly to my wife) that the fat thick glans of my pre-implant life is gone. Why? We're working on that. Who the fuck knows, though? Arterial inflow and venous outflow are as much mystery as medical science it seems. My glans is remarkably smaller. It's failure to engorge as before is also a prime contributor to my loss of length, he says the major contributor. So I would just think - protect your blood flow like your future enjoyment depends on it. Because it might.

Interestingly...my glans is still very sensitive. It feels very much like it always had. It's just smaller. Damned if I understand it all.

[Lost Sheep]

The stretching I did was not in addition to but in place of. Say you don't have the 1/2 hour or so to get out and do VED that day. But you can have 5-10 minutes to just gently pull those 5 directions then repeat. No need to hold for more than a few seconds.

Before implant, I used to apply vacuum after I was in bed and ready for sleep. Normally it takes a bit of time for my mind to unwind and prepare for sleep, and the VED therapy did not interfere with that mental relaxing, so the 20-30 minutes of VED therapy did not rob me of any sleep. Mornings were a little different workdays, but weekends were easy, as I laze in bed listening to the radio when I don't have a scheduled start-of-day time.

Thing is the damage that can be done by aggressive VED use and the penis enlargement stuff can cause scar tissue and size loss. As well as reduced sensitivity. So if you are back to your natural size then you are good. No need to push it. Time to coast into implant.
Take care.

YES! Big time!. "First, do no harm." is equally a command to physicians as much as it is to ourselves.

[darkflame]

Going into surgery in January with Dr. Eid.

Question for those who got implanted by him and 6 months has passed.

Did you lose any length?

I am exactly 6 inches and am thinking about taking 6 months to do enlargement exercises to gain an extra half inch incase I lose some.

Really not looking to be below the 6 inch mark.

Anyone who got implanted by Dr. Eid lose any length?

Apparently length is important beyond risk management.
I am no doctor and cannot say neither that your dick will/won't grow from hanging a book in it, nor that it will damage your dick.
But - and this is big fuckin but - I would not risk it.
The trade-off: Potentially being 6.5" instead of 6" (which is meaningless, no woman will notice the difference) at the risk of damaging your dick for life. Seriously?
You say damage doesn't matter since you're getting implanted. Hmmm.
What if you damage the blood flow to your glans?
The implant won't fix that.
Having blood flow to the glans is something that in my opinion is the difference between the implant being the best solution available, but nowhere near the same feeling as fucking with a natural dick for you or your partner - or having what basically feels just the same for both you and your partner as a natural dick.
So be careful and don't do something you will regret.

And to answer the direct question, I was 6.5 inch before surgery with Eid (Titan) and I was about 7.2 last time I measured. Without ever hanging a hammer from my dick.

Good luck.

Well assuming i am going to lose some length from the surgery if i get it to 6.5 then i will just return to my original length. Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff.

[LookingUp]

"Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff."

I get laid with a 5" dick. Bust a nut everytime.

Reorder your priorities. The effort of an Implant is to return to having sex. If you keep what you brought, Awesome. If you lose X length/girth? Can I fuck without Pills/Injections/VED BS? Bonus!

Lots of Posts on here retained or increased Length. Why not fix your real problem and leave the what ifs when/if they appear?

You're digging a huge hole to climb out of, Why?

Life is good, if you let it.

LUp

[darkflame]

"Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff."

I get laid with a 5" dick. Bust a nut everytime.

Reorder your priorities. The effort of an Implant is to return to having sex. If you keep what you brought, Awesome. If you lose X length/girth? Can I fuck without Pills/Injections/VED BS? Bonus!

Lots of Posts on here retained or increased Length. Why not fix your real problem and leave the what ifs when/if they appear?

You're digging a huge hole to climb out of, Why?

Life is good, if you let it.

LUp

Idk its extremely stressful.

Implant road carries risk.

Lengthening road carries risk.

Both with their potential regrets.

I was a late bloomer with dick size, used to be 5 inches during my teens and still got laid.

Now what I am in my mid 20's I have a lot of female friends and have done some swinging, so I get to hear behind the door conversations about how women view dicks.

Literally was never insecure until I heard what they said. They regularly cut off partners who are 5 inches, tell them its for other reasons of course. It's insane, there is really no male to female equivalent.

Im not a defeatist. If my dick comes out short then it's just more time to focus on my business and dominating my space, but I am definitely not going to subject myself to having sex with girls.

[Gt1956]

Part of the length problem is that some guys remember more dick than they actually ever had. If you read FT for very long. You'll notice that very few men say that they have the statistically average length dick.
Based upon those length claims. A person could argue that ED only happens to long dicks. Which I don't believe it happens that way.
I'm sure that my length is likely within the range of normal. Yes, I used to hit my wifes cervix. I could feel the string to her coil. Monthly I'd check it by finger. I know where her cervix was for certain. Funny thing. Her gynecologist commented one time that he was surprised that she didn't have trouble getting pregnant cause her cervix was so deep in her.
Anyway, this was my experiences.

[Waynetho]

Well assuming i am going to lose some length from the surgery if i get it to 6.5 then i will just return to my original length. Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff.

Check with Agfa13 here on Frank Talk. Even though he lost about 50% to infection after his first IPP and subsequent temporary malleable before getting his Titan, going from I believe a full 8" to about 4" (Ag, correct me if I'm wrong!) - he's still finding that despite still having challenges with pain on cycling (again, probably due to previous infection), he's able to have receptive penetrative anal sex (FUCK ASSES) with what he currently has available.

No need to just "jerk off" if you lose a little length. Unless your partner(s) are size-queens and like things deep, only the penetration point is going to matter.

[darkflame]

Well assuming i am going to lose some length from the surgery if i get it to 6.5 then i will just return to my original length. Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff.

Check with Agfa13 here on Frank Talk. Even though he lost about 50% to infection after his first IPP and subsequent temporary malleable before getting his Titan, going from I believe a full 8" to about 4" (Ag, correct me if I'm wrong!) - he's still finding that despite still having challenges with pain on cycling (again, probably due to previous infection), he's able to have receptive penetrative anal sex (FUCK ASSES) with what he currently has available.

No need to just "jerk off" if you lose a little length. Unless your partner(s) are size-queens and like things deep, only the penetration point is going to matter.

So infection can lead to immense length loss?

What about on revisions?

I am likely going to have at least 6 revisions over my life. My chances of getting an infection that leads to length loss seem very high.

This seems like an insane risk.

[Waynetho]

Well assuming i am going to lose some length from the surgery if i get it to 6.5 then i will just return to my original length. Another user on here lost 25% of his length with dr eid. He is way above average so it is fine i guess, but if that happens at my length i will legitimately stop having sex and just jerkoff.

Check with Agfa13 here on Frank Talk. Even though he lost about 50% to infection after his first IPP and subsequent temporary malleable before getting his Titan, going from I believe a full 8" to about 4" (Ag, correct me if I'm wrong!) - he's still finding that despite still having challenges with pain on cycling (again, probably due to previous infection), he's able to have receptive penetrative anal sex (FUCK ASSES) with what he currently has available.

No need to just "jerk off" if you lose a little length. Unless your partner(s) are size-queens and like things deep, only the penetration point is going to matter.

So infection can lead to immense length loss?

What about on revisions?

I am likely going to have at least 6 revisions over my life. My chances of getting an infection that leads to length loss seem very high.

This seems like an insane risk.

Dr. Eid if I'm not mistaken uses the "No Touch" procedure where they do all the prep, then they cover the skin with a dermal barrier, exposing only the penis and scrotum, make the incisions, corporotomies, etc. **THEN** they discard all garments and drapes and such, considering them contaminated. They put on clean sterile garments, gloves, drapes, etc. and resume the procedure with no contact with the patient's external skin surface until closure.

The "No Touch" procedure while not totally necessary for a good outcome without infection, greatly reduces the chance of infection due to bacteria dwelling on the surface of the patient's skin, getting into the surgical site.

My surgeon does not use the No-Touch procedure and I did not have any infection. Agfa13's first implant I believe also did not use No-Touch if I recall but the odds are less than 3% of post-surgical infection or complications. I'm quoting this from memory though so do yor research to verify accuracy.

Also, Agfa's situation is due to the doctor's inaction while taking a "Wait and See" approach, and Agfa's inability to endure any cycling or inflation of any kind for about 3 months due to the pain from the infection.

[Gt1956]

Darkflame. You are over reacting without the full story in my opinion. As I remember Agfa13 story. He most likely had a poor surgeon. He complained about some symptoms but his doctor dismissed his concerns. By the time he was able to find a different doctor he was quite well infected. As I recall he was hoping for a revision because he felt undersized. His new surgeon cleaned out the infection but because of the infection. The standard course of care is to not install another inflatable so soon to an infection. If the patient wants an inflatable at a later date? A mallable implant is installed to help keep size. He was about ready to keep the mallable but decided it didn't suit his needs. He did get an inflatable months later. Btw, I think his bone pressed measurement is well over 4". His after pictures in several of his posts. I don't believe that he ever posted before pictures. Look up his profile & read his history. Make your own decision.