Real lifespan of Inflatable implants

[LastHope]

Real lifespan of Inflatable implants ; 3 months if your lucky, the Mercedes-Benz of implants . haha , joke. But honestly it's the toss of the dice , why they can't make them with tubes and cylinders that dont spring leaks or pumps that crap out and reservoirs that leak is why ? Repeat business ?
Some go 5,6 years ,some don't last12 months the thing is ,its not like getting a new tooth filling ,that's all major surgery . One i don't want to do even one time .never mind 2 or 3 times .
im satisfied with my easy to conceal 24/7 hard-on that is promoted as hard to conceal but isn't , malleable .i just pull it upright and its party time .
Last night , the girl who used it said " your dick is hard like a teenager" she stopped before i was done , and i had to tell her ; hey I'm not finished yet ,let's go ! haha . well either way , best wishes to the brothers with the ipp's i hope they hold out and the durability improves.

HAHA... 'Your dick is hard like a teenager' - that's the best compliment. Awesome man!

I want to ram for 1 hour, but poor wifey gets tired and taps out after 30 minutes. Well, thanks to sex toys!

[Txagq8]

Some go 5,6 years ,some don't last12 months the thing is ,it’s not like getting a new tooth filling ,that's all major surgery . One i don't want to do even one time .never mind 2 or 3 times .
im satisfied with my easy to conceal 24/7 hard-on that is promoted as hard to conceal but isn't , malleable .i just pull it upright and its party time .

I’m not questioning your feelings on the subject. Feelings aren’t “wrong.” That being said, a big chunk of your post struck me as full of shit.

You’re right. Some don’t go 12 months. Some probably don’t go but 5 or 6 years. But a whole lot more guys….i don’t have percentages…..we go 12….25 years. In some cases even longer.

I had this conversation a week ago-the urologist who installed my LGX also does my TRT. I hadn’t seen him in a couple of years, ending up with his PA on those visits. He wanted to know how (after 5 years) I felt about the LGX and I wanted know, in no bullshit terms, how much longer it would go and what its demise would look like.

He has one of his patients who is at 22 years with one. If you look at the age of many guys when they get them…a good many are probably buried with working implants. But his best guess, and he admitted it was a guess, is that most of the ones he’d installed were fine until age 12–15. Some guys want new ones, some don’t. Age, other medical conditions, their wives….factor into the decision.

He said it was unlikely I’d see the end of my LGX coming. It would work just fine. Until one day it wouldn’t work at all.

At 69 I put myself under more physical stress than many my age. Gym every day. Rebuilding 120 yr old houses. Restoring 60 year old pickups. Raising a few cows. I’m not sitting around on my ass waiting for the Grim Reaper to stop in. My implant is in there and it catches some of that strain. It’s 5 years, 3 months old.

And it’s a matter of taste. You’re happy with a malleable. Good for you. I don’t think I would be. I want my dick to act like a dick. When I want it to be hard, it gets hard. I ended up with an angle many 20 yr old horny college guys would kill for.

By the same token with my T shot I tend to view myself as a horny 20 yr old guy in a nearly 70 yr old body. Oh well.

Major surgery? Please. Yeah, some guys have complications. But I’ve hurt a hell of a lot worse from a tooth extraction or a hernia repair than I ever did from my implant installation.

This all boils down to individual preference and freedom of choice. A malleable might work good for you, you might like it, and that’s perfectly fine. But to exaggerate horror stories, throw misleading data out about lifespan of inflatables, and try to steer guys away from inflatables because you don’t like ‘em…that’s just wrong.

Here’s how my conversation with Doc ended up. He’s 52. He plans to practice another 10-15 years. I told hem I for sure wanted him to do my revision, if and when the time comes. He said he’d be glad to…but with one that had been chugging away for 5 years it was not a sure bet that it would quit before his retirement party.

What I would tell a fellow ED guy is that if he wanted something hard to fuck with, and didn’t mind it never being soft and pliable like a flaccid cock-get a malleable. If you’re after a dick that’s going to closely mimic what you had before, you need to consider a 3 piece. To me, I’m still the same. Only difference is when I get an erection, it’s me making the decision not my cardiovascular and parasympathetic nervous system.

[ready2go]

Some go 5,6 years ,some don't last12 months the thing is ,it’s not like getting a new tooth filling ,that's all major surgery . One i don't want to do even one time .never mind 2 or 3 times .
im satisfied with my easy to conceal 24/7 hard-on that is promoted as hard to conceal but isn't , malleable .i just pull it upright and its party time .

I’m not questioning your feelings on the subject.-get a malleable. ]


no feelings involved, its a crap shoot getting an ipp . it might last 5 years or more .it might last a few months , that's fact . just type in revisions in the search bar and page after page will be the result . the member "the driver" had 4 ipp's in three years ? he gave up and got a malleable . and he and his wife are happy with it .

and to any brother here ,that decides to go the ipp route , I wish them God's speed and best wishes . AND hope that manufactures of the ipp's improve their product so there isn't as many or no defects . so a patient doesn't have go through another surgery
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its one thing to have the product replaced under warranty ,its another having to get cut open to have it replaced , is not like bringing a bad drill back to the hardware store to have it replaced . The hoses and cylinders and reservoirs need to be more durable .the pumps ,at least they seem to making an attempt to improve them .

[ready2go]

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HAHA... 'Your dick is hard like a teenager' - that's the best compliment. Awesome man!

I want to ram for 1 hour, but poor wifey gets tired and taps out after 30 minutes. Well, thanks to sex toys![/quote]


haha, your wearing her out ! im sure she is satisfied and happy ;}

[tooyoung]

I completely agree with Ready2Go....

I want to add that we—whether we're IPPs, malleables, or soon-to-be implanted—are in dire need to take a more critical stance on the current state of the penile implants industry because it's doing us shit and ass kissing beneficiaries (yes, including the so-called "high-volume implanters") won't help us. As long as they continue to receive ass kissing they have no incentive to make meaningful changes.

Now, regarding the main topic, I have something to add for those who claim there’s a "selection bias" on FrankTalk, suggesting that only people with negative experiences gather here to complain, while the majority are too busy fucking. That argument is bullshit for two clear reasons:

1. Most FrankTalk members with implant malfunctions initially join the forum and post about their positive experiences. However, within a few months or years (typically 2–5 years), many of them return to share updates about malfunctions. A significant portion even reports multiple revisions during this time. This creates a solid, anterospective sample that isn’t prone to selection bias. These members join and post as satisfied implantees, making their experiences a legitimate basis for drawing conclusions—far more credible than studies sponsored by Coloplast, Boston Scientific, or their affiliated surgeons.

2. From the same logic behind " the majority is busy fucking" why can't we just say the majority are busy enduring multiple revisions and catastrophies ?


For God's sake the reality is screaming towards our faces...coloplast guarantees its' product for 5 years..Dr.Oliver kayes even said a young man should expect 5 years out of it..what else do we need to know that ipps are very shortliving and too dangerous ? And it isn't about money-warranty-insurance concern as ready2go said it's you are playing fire with your dick.


And please the statement of "what else are you losing? you have already a nonfunctioning dick" is dumb because simply there are malleables...and even if there are no malleables..why all that praising to the presence of a time bomb in our pants that could tick today or 5 years from now ?

[PowerliftingDad]

IPPs when working properly are absolutely amazing.
You can't live your life in fear worrying about it breaking.
Don't be reckless with it and hope you are fortunate enough to get many years out of it.
Life is short and there is no point of borrowing trouble that isn't yours yet.
If you can't deal with the high likelihood of revisions....get a malleable. Many guys are super happy with those also.

[adkd124]

2. From the same logic behind " the majority is busy fucking" why can't we just say the majority are busy enduring multiple revisions and catastrophies ?

Really good remark. Also statment that on the forum came people only when they have problems and that are reason why on the forum so many people with breaks total bullshit. A lot of people just don't share their negative experience. Or don't know about forum.

[navy6587]

adkd & lasthope...interesting data. Thanks!! More interesting is that when I got out of my Matrch 4th bladder cancer TURBT w/chemo procedure and follow-on 4 day stint in the hospital due to complications with catheter clogging because of blood clots, my Titan pump was non-functional. Since I have been losing weight too, my reservoir tubing that runs over my pubic bone seems kinked or at least sharply bent. So, I'm currently stuck with whatever fluid was/ is in my cylinders and the inability to get hard. My pump stopped working a year or two ago but I was able to bring it back to life until now. Guess my bionic run is over...

[Thisworld]

Navy6587, your point is spot on. Without stratifying by frequency of usage or age, the data isn't very useful. It would be nice to have some kind of cycle count on the device.

There is another paper that analyzes failed implants and provides much better data. Again, it's not about surviving implants; the study focuses solely on failed implants. This also doesn't provide clues about lifespan, as tempting as it may be to derive a number.

Median time/range for revision (of failed devices):
Coloplast: 4.8 yrs (3.4 - 6)
Boston Scientific: 3.6 yrs (1.7 - 8.3)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37189017/

Smelser AM, VanDyke ME, Nealon SW, Badkhshan S, Langford BT, Peedikayil J, El-Eishy AF, Monaghan TF, Sanders SC, Franzen BP, Morey AF.

Mechanical indications for inflatable penile prosthesis revision: analysis and implications for revision surgery.

J Sex Med. 2023 Jun 28;20(7):1044-1051. doi: 10.1093/jsxmed/qdad064. PMID: 37189017.

Last hope cuold you share the full study if you have access to it?

[Kodixx]

How long does an implant last?
It’s impossible to predict how long an implant will function in a particular person. Implants subject to wear and mechanical failure over time. A recent study of more than 37,000 patients showed that the 7-year mechanical survival of the Boston Scientific AMS 700™ Penile Implant is greater than 94%.4 To prolong the life of your implant, follow the advice of your urologist. - Boston Scientific website

Does anyone know if that data is problematic or has been challenged ? Assuming the data, 37,000 patients, was not cherry-picked in some way -- and the calculations are correct -- I can see where they might get to an average life of around 10 years. I thought I read somewhere the survival rate was >50% at 10 years, but not sure if that's right or how that stat was derived.

In any case data like that might be so much more useful if it were qualified by general patient info and patient behavior.

- Chuck