Inflatable or malleable, and why?

[Mark1974]

I'm getting a malleable. It is not ideal, but I have a fear of medical catastrophes. With an IPP I am almost guaranteed future surgeries on my penis and with every surgery there are is a possibility of a horrible tragedy

[ready2go]

malleable , its ready on demand , does not break ,not trying to hide pumping or the pump in your balls . the erosion risk is no more then the ipp risk . for me an easy surgery and recovery . no big large clump of hardware going onto your body ,that will need to be replaced again in who knows how much time .
and it is NOT hard to conceal .

[wasim1]

All great answers, I am not sure on my next one if I need another.. I walk a lot (t1 diabetic) and with my IPP s, I have to conceal, it hangs great and I don't mind a little show, with a malleable I don't know how much more noticeable it would be.

i was T1 Diabetic also 6month ago then i started taking Berberine and with in 3 months i m not T1 diabetic anymore,,,,have a look at that supplement

[pumpless_mtfckr]

lord im sweet on malleables like a hound on a ham bone but ill slap on my fair and square hat for ya. aint no way i could gamble on them inflatable doodads that might need fixin left and right. im tippin my hat to FrankTalk bros bless their heart for spillin the beans on the implant rodeo showin me the straight dope on how them high falutin inflatables and good ol malleables hold up. multiple revisions thatd leave my life flatter than a run over biscuit. so i went with the rock solid no fuss malleable zero movin parts built tough as a john deere machine.now lemme lay it out plain malleables bend smoother than a willow branch and with a sharp doc stitchin you up they tuck low and look natural as all get out whether youre sportin wranglers or kickin back in your skivvies. dont believe me i know a mess of fellas wholl swear by it. inflatables all that pumpin and squeezin aint for everbody. some folks got arthritis creepin in hands shakier than a leaf in a storm or spines that aint cooperatin. for them a quick twist of a malleable rod and bam youre ready to roll no fuss no cuss.and heres the kicker inflatables got more doodads than a tractor engine more parts to bust more headaches to fix. a malleable simple as a hammer sturdy as a oak and if somethin goes cockeyed the doc can usually patch it up quicker than you can say sweet tea. aint everbody livin high on the hog with a big city surgeon round the corner. some of us gotta drive half a day or save up til the cows come home just for one shot at this. for them a malleable aint the backup plan its the plan period. im a sucker for shiny new toys. but if that thing konks out soon i aint got the patience for it ill hightail it back to a malleable faster than a jackrabbit. i aint sayin yall who picked inflatables done wrong. if its workin for ya im happier than a pig in mud. but for me and mine malleables are the cat pajamas reliable easy and ready when you are. okay, writing this my girl now gives me a blowjob on my malleable, signing off before I cum on my laptop..

[wilsonmill]

lord im sweet on malleables like a hound on a ham bone but ill slap on my fair and square hat for ya. aint no way i could gamble on them inflatable doodads that might need fixin left and right. im tippin my hat to FrankTalk bros bless their heart for spillin the beans on the implant rodeo showin me the straight dope on how them high falutin inflatables and good ol malleables hold up. multiple revisions thatd leave my life flatter than a run over biscuit. so i went with the rock solid no fuss malleable zero movin parts built tough as a john deere machine.now lemme lay it out plain malleables bend smoother than a willow branch and with a sharp doc stitchin you up they tuck low and look natural as all get out whether youre sportin wranglers or kickin back in your skivvies. dont believe me i know a mess of fellas wholl swear by it. inflatables all that pumpin and squeezin aint for everbody. some folks got arthritis creepin in hands shakier than a leaf in a storm or spines that aint cooperatin. for them a quick twist of a malleable rod and bam youre ready to roll no fuss no cuss.and heres the kicker inflatables got more doodads than a tractor engine more parts to bust more headaches to fix. a malleable simple as a hammer sturdy as a oak and if somethin goes cockeyed the doc can usually patch it up quicker than you can say sweet tea. aint everbody livin high on the hog with a big city surgeon round the corner. some of us gotta drive half a day or save up til the cows come home just for one shot at this. for them a malleable aint the backup plan its the plan period. im a sucker for shiny new toys. but if that thing konks out soon i aint got the patience for it ill hightail it back to a malleable faster than a jackrabbit. i aint sayin yall who picked inflatables done wrong. if its workin for ya im happier than a pig in mud. but for me and mine malleables are the cat pajamas reliable easy and ready when you are. okay, writing this my girl now gives me a blowjob on my malleable, signing off before I cum on my laptop..

Great write up...

[Gatorman97]

I’d be interested in this: for those rare few who have had IPP and MPPs implanted, I’d like to know the differences in what it felt like to have them in terms of rigidity, sensation, etc.

I have had both though my IPP was only in briefly due to an infection and I never field tested. It was a former erection for sure and I think the sensation was the same as now.,MPP is not as rigid and “buckles” in certain positions. However it is ready all the time and is adequate for sex.

[ready2go]

I’d be interested in this: for those rare few who have had IPP and MPPs implanted, I’d like to know the differences in what it felt like to have them in terms of rigidity, sensation, etc.

I have had both though my IPP was only in briefly due to an infection and I never field tested. It was a former erection for sure and I think the sensation was the same as now.,MPP is not as rigid and “buckles” in certain positions. However, it is ready all the time and is adequate for sex.

Interesting , the benefit of the ipp is to be able to possibly gain back some lost girth or length . but the means of how that is done is the draw back for me,and they cant bring themselfs to make secure tube connections or pumps that dont malfunction . it is what it is though .there isn't any other method available .
but my tactra shaft doesn't bend , and girls have rode it hard cowgirl , . it also has a natural looking erection . no surfboard dick thing .
i my opinion ,a malleable with the ability to be inflated to a certain size and sealed at a later date would be my best pick . only in my imagination though

[ragingbull]

I’d be interested in this: for those rare few who have had IPP and MPPs implanted, I’d like to know the differences in what it felt like to have them in terms of rigidity, sensation, etc.

I have had both though my IPP was only in briefly due to an infection and I never field tested. It was a former erection for sure and I think the sensation was the same as now.,MPP is not as rigid and “buckles” in certain positions. However it is ready all the time and is adequate for sex.

From user:
principles
A short comparison of Malleables and Inflatables

Post: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:21 pm
Hello everyone!

To summarize the background story, I had a Titan implant, the tubing failed within 2 years of the initial surgery. I underwent a revision surgery that got infected on week 4, and then I had a salvage to a Malleable implant (Tactra). I have documented some of this in another thread for those who are curious.

There is a lack of information on malleable implants, so I wanted to share my experiences with it so far and make a quick comparison to the Titan, which I had before. I hope this information can help someone.

Main points below.

Concealment:
The Titan (IPP) wins in terms of concealment. It remained hidden perfectly, just a long flaccid penis without any issues. With the malleable implant, I position it downward, pointing towards the ground, and it naturally bends slightly to the left (around 5 o'clock). I have to wear tighter underwear, and sometimes, for added comfort, I wear two regular underwear to avoid any potential markings on my pants or shorts. This can be problematic, and I'm not able to conceal it just as well as was able to conceal the IPP, but I can conceal it enough to live with it thus far. Positioning it comfortably and using tighter underwear is key with the malleable.

Sexual Performance:
The Titan (IPP) wins in terms of rigidity. It is simply more rigid and has no issues with maintaining axial rigidity. Even with my looser than normal suspensory ligament, the erection quality was fantastic, and I had no issues with any sexual positions. However, with the malleable implant, I am unable to perform satisfactorily in all positions. There is some slight bending during anal sex or with a partner who is tighter than usual. Sex with the Titan was definitely superior. The downside of the Titan is that if you are concerned about concealing it from a partner, you can't let them touch your scrotum, as they might notice something is different. With the Tactra (malleable), this is not a concern as it feels completely natural. However, the trade-off is that it is not as hard, and in my experience, it did affect some positions that I previously enjoyed. Unfortunately, there are trade-offs here. While one implant is more performant, it is also more unnatural.

Post-operative Recovery:
The Tactra (malleable) wins in terms of post-operative recovery. Just one week after surgery, I felt basically normal with no scrotum pain at all. I could function almost normally. This was not the case with the IPP. My recovery from the initial surgery with the Titan was close to traumatic. I experienced intense pain for three weeks straight and couldn't walk without feeling pain >= 8/10. For the first year, I also felt discomfort and pain around the reservoir during intense workouts, such as running.

Comfort:
The Titan (IPP) wins in terms of comfort. After the initial recovery phase, the IPP felt as normal as my regular non-implanted penis. I could sleep normally and wear any clothes I previously wore. As mentioned earlier, the only discomfort I had with the IPP was around the reservoir area during heavy workout sessions in the first year post-surgery. With the malleable implant, I currently feel no discomfort unless I wear tighter underwear. After a long day wearing tight underwear and formal work clothing, it can be annoying and induce some pain. Basically, when I have to force concealment for a long time, I have to tighten up my underwear, which generates some discomfort (pain ranging from 1 to 2 out of 10). Also, I have to be mindful of certain movements, the current positioning of the implant, and how clothing or my body will interact with it. Essentially, I don't want to accidentally hit or hurt my erect penis. Being mindful of its position has become second nature, but there are situations where I need to be more cautious, which can be slightly annoying and decrease overall comfort.

Post-operative Lifestyle Adjustments:
The Titan (IPP) wins. Except for heavy exercising (which is a big deal for some, and it definitely was for me), there were no major adjustments with the IPP. Sleep, work, and daily life remained unchanged. Sex was phenomenal after the initial recovery. However, receiving oral sex or handjobs from unaware partners can be problematic if you don't redirect their attention from your scrotum. You can use underwear to keep your balls inside and always redirect their hands if you want to completely conceal your implant. If you are married or have a fixed partner, this is not a concern. On the other hand, with the malleable implant, sleep, work, exercise, and sex require adjustments. I can sleep in any position, but I have to be mindful of transitions. I need to position my penis first and then transition into a new sleeping position. I cannot simply throw my body weight over my penis as I used to do before the implant (or did with the IPP), as it can cause injury. This is a minor annoyance that requires some adjusting. As for work and daily life, clothing needs to be assessed to ensure proper concealment of the semi-hard penis. Sex also requires adjustments depending on body anatomy and erection angle, as the malleable implant doesn't have the same axial rigidity as the inflatable one. Some positions that require acute angles have been problematic for me with the malleable implant, such as regular missionary sex. However, any positions that require an erection angle of 90 degrees or greater (like reverse cowgirl) are normal and great.

Partner's Perception:
Split.
You will have better performance with the IPP, but you need to conceal or have your fixed partner get used to the tubing and pump paraphernalia contained in your scrotum. As for the sensation during handjobs or when touched, both types of implants can be felt by your partner's hand without any natural engorgement. However, with some engorgement, both the IPP (if not pumped to the max) and the malleable implant can feel relatively natural. Overall, I think the malleable implant feels more natural. It provides no clues as to whether you have an implant or not. Thus, it won't affect your partner's perception of your erection. In my experience, using the malleable implant with a cockring has been a very good combination. With this combination, you cannot tell that I have an implant at all.

Revisions, risks, and costs:
Malleale wins ahnd I have zero concerns about my malleable implant breaking at the moment. Even if it were to break tomorrow, I know that within a week of surgery, I would be living as close to normal as possible, with a very low chance of infection compared to an IPP revision. I also know that I'm not dependent on a few specialists who have experience with installing an IPP (outside of USA). It is easier to find surgeons to perform a malleable implant revision than to find a highly experienced IPP specialist. In short, there is a much smaller chance of needing a revision with a malleable implant. Even if it breaks or extrudes, the recovery is faster, it costs less (if you are not insured), and it is easier to find a surgeon to perform the revision.

Girth/Length:
I initially omitted this part of the comparison, given that today, there are options to increase girth if you opt for the malleable device, which indeed provides less girth than the IPP device. The other caveat is that this difference will be mostly noticeable if you are at a point with your erectile dysfunction (ED) that your natural engorgement is basically null. Otherwise, pairing the malleable implant with a proper cockring (I like simple/thick rubber shaft-only rings) will keep your natural engorgement 'trapped,' and you'll basically have the same girth as you naturally had before the implant. This combination has been great for me personally, and it doesn't make me feel like I lost a lot of girth going from natural to the IPP to the malleable with a cockring. That is my biased reason for omitting this part of the comparison in the first place. However, without any other aids (such as pills, rings, Peruvian maca, etc.), the girth provided by a Titan is definitely greatly superior to the unenhanced malleable girth. Length is surgeon dependent and not really implant dependent, but yes, an inflatable device can be slightly oversized and provide an additional 0.5-1cm of length. However, I wouldn't count on it, and I cannot say that is an advantage of the IPP device.
Lastly, currently, there are safe fillers that can be used to enhance girth beyond even what you could achieve with a Titan device. I think it's easier to apply those fillers if you have a malleable device as you don't risk perforating the inflatable cylinders. In short, unenhanced girth is greater with the IPP. A malleable device with some additional aids will likely provide you with the girth you naturally had, and with the current fillers, you can have a very thick penis even with the thinner malleable rods. This is something I'll consider if I decide against the IPP in the future.


Summary:

IPP:
+ More comfortable
+ More performant
+ More girth
- More unnatural
- More expensive
- More revisions (infections and failures)


Malleable:
+ Simple device and surgery
+ Cheap
+ Fewer revisions due to infections, failures, and improper installations
+ With some engorgement, it feels as normal as a regular penis (use a cockring)
+- Girth can be enhanced up to your natural potential and more with fillers, rings, pills.
- Performance is inferior to IPP in some positions
- Less comfort during regular activities
- Need to be mindful of concealment
- Sleep takes some adjusting
- Greater risk of accidental extrusion over a lifetime

Lastly, remember that both will help you have a fullfilling sex life.

As for myself, I'm still unsure If I want to deal with all the issues and risks associated with the inflatable device in exchange for the added comfort and performance.

Healthy 31y
08/2020 Titan 22+3. Post op was rough. Best sex of my life. Tubing failed after 26 months.
11/2022 Titan 24+2. Infected from Revision.
01/2023 Tactra 23 13mm. Salvage.
08/2023 Titan 20+3. Infected (3 weeks in)
08/2023 Scheduled Tactra Salvage.

[Mark1974]

Ain’t no way I was gonna gamble on them inflatable doodads that might need fixin’ left and right. Much obliged to the FrankTalk brothers for spillin’ the beans on this implant rodeo. Gave me the straight dope on both options and let me tell you, all them stories about revisions and busted pumps had me clutchin’ my wallet and crossin’ my legs

Good lord it seems to be contagious

[thedriver]

LOL,,,,, And the debate go's on...
IPP's,, been there and done that too many times,,, I'll go with the one and done MPP in a heartbeat.
After being on here a few years, I can tell who really reads thru every piece of the threads here on this old debate and who just skims over things,, just sort of interesting.