For younger guys who will need multiple surgeries throughout their lives - what are the risks of choosing IPP over MPP?

[pumpless_mtfckr]

alright now pull up a lawn chair cause i got the alabama porch report in one long laugh ready wisdom and i will keep it plain as cornbread the ipp is the bass boat of romance quiet at the dock till you give that little pump two friendly squeezes then boom saturday night then you tap the release and it slides back to sunday school shape so your jeans mind their manners while the mpp is tough as grandma skillet and super reliable but it rides around all day like a folding chair that forgot how to fold so by lunchtime you are adjusting more than rabbit ears in a thunderstorm now here is your serious grin the ipp has more little parts than a walmart bicycle so across a lifetime you may see more shop visits and each trip can stack scar tissue like kudzu on a mailbox every cut can bother more nerves and sensitivity can ease down notch by notch like the volume knob at church you can also lose a little size and stretch with repeat work and if infection crashes the party you might be staring at the three step two step first an ipp then removal with a salvage mpp for healing then later another ipp that is three hospital gown, three surgery bills, too many for one love story and sometimes all that scar turns into red clay concrete and no more implants can fit meanwhile the mpp keeps on ticking cause simple is sturdy but stealth aint part of the package and he also bends in a friendly manner that can feel like a tuba solo in a quiet library toss in real life and with ipp revisions you got time off work burned pto missed shifts child care shuffles and a beach trip to gulf shores turned into you guarding the cooler while the cousins jump waves plus if you lose a job or switch plans the new insurance may not cover revisions or may make you wrangle approvals till christmas so a quick tune up turns into a wallet rodeo now for your single joke cameo from my genius buddy LetoMan so sharp he once whistled at a gps and the thing said thank you sir and recalculated he still says pick with your head not your pride cause comfort control and confidence are sweet but scars bills numerous revision downtime and vacation rain checks are real life is full of tradeoffs so weigh what matters most to you stealth and on demand with more maintenance or simple and sturdy with less stealth then sit with your seasoned surgeon ask about risks revisions infections sensitivity, cashpay if you need a revision after a layoff or new job with health insurance that denies implants and recovery time and pick the road that lets you sleep easy laugh loud and keep your jeans and your jokes in good standing down by the coosa river! stay proud but be humble.. you got only one life and one penis, you're not too old for medicare...take care..peace and love y'all

[LetoMan]

Haha, I mention Foghorn Leghorn and boom! He appears. Even though he hadn’t been active for months.

The funny thing about pumpless/Foghorn/tooyoung is that if you go back and look at his posts, last year (2024) he was a seemingly normal pre-implant guy, though he was genuinely curious about the malleable/IPP debate and was thinking about a malleable. But he asked questions in a normal voice.

BUT. For some reason he went back and edited all those former posts, replaced them with a period (“.”). But we can still read what he originally wrote, because he is quoted by other guys that captured his original posts.

He thus edited/deleted all his normal posts. But then in February of 2025 suddenly he adopted the Foghorn Leghorn persona, and started posting about how IPPs break down all the time and malleables are reliable. Those posts are unedited, and are all that remain in his profile. Foghorn Leghorn kept it up for February/March/April/May, last post (until today) was in June.

Curiously, tooyoung joined in February of 2025, too, but started posting in March. His first screed was - you guessed it - super anti-IPP... no intro, no nothing. Just straight into posting, and claiming extensive knowledge of implants and that he is a doctor (which is pretty laughable). Foghorn Leghorn and tooyoung were very active throughout the spring, joining the battle on IPPs.

They both seem to have extensive interest about malleable implantation doctors outside the US. They also both seem to have some interest/knowledge of Urofill. Both use the Cadillac vs. Toyota analogy for ipp vs. mpp. As far as I can tell neither actually has an implant. Foghorn was pre-malleable last year, it was only when he adopted the Foghorn persona that he started to -seemingly- claim being implanted, but there is no posts about what that was like or where he got it or whatever. It’s also curious that he has the handle he has, given that he does not appear to have any sort of implant. Tooyoung variously claims he has one or claims he does not, also claims he is a doctor.

Anyway. It’s pretty insane to spend time going back and looking at these two profiles posts, but it’s even more insane that someone is bothering to go back and delete old posts that don’t fit their current persona, and that that persona is clearly an AI- generated “make this post sound like a southerner” but otherwise the same anti-IPP nonsense.

Why? Who knows. Maybe anger at how expensive IPPs are for those paying cash outside the US? Tooyoung’s first post refers to some class warfare issues.

All I know is that neither of these profiles are reliable for much of anything. It would all be just silly if it weren’t for the fact that they are likely influencing guys with very bad advice.

Anyway. Brothers… please don’t amplify or take these profiles seriously.

Be well, Leto

[fucked0ne]

There is a really good post by niceguy1 who went from IPP to MPP and back to IPP. While acknowledging the limitations of the IPP, he still preferred it over the malleable (which kept buckling on him and decreased his girth).

Rodsmen has a CX which he has literally put through THOUSANDS of cycles without problem. He might be someone to talk to about IPP durability.

I’m in the “younger” bracket of implant patients as well and am also looking at some future revisions. What needs to be remembered is that there will probably be improvements in that time, like Coloplast FINALLY fixing their fucking tubing for instance.

[tooyoung]

Haha, I mention Foghorn Leghorn and boom! He appears. Even though he hadn’t been active for months.

The funny thing about pumpless/Foghorn/tooyoung is that if you go back and look at his posts, last year (2024) he was a seemingly normal pre-implant guy, though he was genuinely curious about the malleable/IPP debate and was thinking about a malleable. But he asked questions in a normal voice.

BUT. For some reason he went back and edited all those former posts, replaced them with a period (“.”). But we can still read what he originally wrote, because he is quoted by other guys that captured his original posts.

He thus edited/deleted all his normal posts. But then in February of 2025 suddenly he adopted the Foghorn Leghorn persona, and started posting about how IPPs break down all the time and malleables are reliable. Those posts are unedited, and are all that remain in his profile. Foghorn Leghorn kept it up for February/March/April/May, last post (until today) was in June.

Curiously, tooyoung joined in February of 2025, too, but started posting in March. His first screed was - you guessed it - super anti-IPP... no intro, no nothing. Just straight into posting, and claiming extensive knowledge of implants and that he is a doctor (which is pretty laughable). Foghorn Leghorn and tooyoung were very active throughout the spring, joining the battle on IPPs.

They both seem to have extensive interest about malleable implantation doctors outside the US. They also both seem to have some interest/knowledge of Urofill. Both use the Cadillac vs. Toyota analogy for ipp vs. mpp. As far as I can tell neither actually has an implant. Foghorn was pre-malleable last year, it was only when he adopted the Foghorn persona that he started to -seemingly- claim being implanted, but there is no posts about what that was like or where he got it or whatever. It’s also curious that he has the handle he has, given that he does not appear to have any sort of implant. Tooyoung variously claims he has one or claims he does not, also claims he is a doctor.

Anyway. It’s pretty insane to spend time going back and looking at these two profiles posts, but it’s even more insane that someone is bothering to go back and delete old posts that don’t fit their current persona, and that that persona is clearly an AI- generated “make this post sound like a southerner” but otherwise the same anti-IPP nonsense.

Why? Who knows. Maybe anger at how expensive IPPs are for those paying cash outside the US? Tooyoung’s first post refers to some class warfare issues.

All I know is that neither of these profiles are reliable for much of anything. It would all be just silly if it weren’t for the fact that they are likely influencing guys with very bad advice.

Anyway. Brothers… please don’t amplify or take these profiles seriously.

Be well, Leto

Hahahahaha you’ve awakened the legend—good job, Leto!

Jeez, all that just to prove what?

Extensive paragraphs, yet nothing but speculation. That’s why you always say, “Who knows?… he might be blah blah blah”—like middle school girls gossiping in toilet stalls.

But hey, thanks again for awakening the legend.

[daddel]

Haha, I mention Foghorn Leghorn and boom! He appears. Even though he hadn’t been active for months.

The funny thing about pumpless/Foghorn/tooyoung is that if you go back and look at his posts, last year (2024) he was a seemingly normal pre-implant guy, though he was genuinely curious about the malleable/IPP debate and was thinking about a malleable. But he asked questions in a normal voice.

BUT. For some reason he went back and edited all those former posts, replaced them with a period (“.”). But we can still read what he originally wrote, because he is quoted by other guys that captured his original posts.

He thus edited/deleted all his normal posts. But then in February of 2025 suddenly he adopted the Foghorn Leghorn persona, and started posting about how IPPs break down all the time and malleables are reliable. Those posts are unedited, and are all that remain in his profile. Foghorn Leghorn kept it up for February/March/April/May, last post (until today) was in June.

Curiously, tooyoung joined in February of 2025, too, but started posting in March. His first screed was - you guessed it - super anti-IPP... no intro, no nothing. Just straight into posting, and claiming extensive knowledge of implants and that he is a doctor (which is pretty laughable). Foghorn Leghorn and tooyoung were very active throughout the spring, joining the battle on IPPs.

They both seem to have extensive interest about malleable implantation doctors outside the US. They also both seem to have some interest/knowledge of Urofill. Both use the Cadillac vs. Toyota analogy for ipp vs. mpp. As far as I can tell neither actually has an implant. Foghorn was pre-malleable last year, it was only when he adopted the Foghorn persona that he started to -seemingly- claim being implanted, but there is no posts about what that was like or where he got it or whatever. It’s also curious that he has the handle he has, given that he does not appear to have any sort of implant. Tooyoung variously claims he has one or claims he does not, also claims he is a doctor.

Anyway. It’s pretty insane to spend time going back and looking at these two profiles posts, but it’s even more insane that someone is bothering to go back and delete old posts that don’t fit their current persona, and that that persona is clearly an AI- generated “make this post sound like a southerner” but otherwise the same anti-IPP nonsense.

Why? Who knows. Maybe anger at how expensive IPPs are for those paying cash outside the US? Tooyoung’s first post refers to some class warfare issues.

All I know is that neither of these profiles are reliable for much of anything. It would all be just silly if it weren’t for the fact that they are likely influencing guys with very bad advice.

Anyway. Brothers… please don’t amplify or take these profiles seriously.

Be well, Leto

Haha, very good observation. I saw some pieces of this puzzle but this makes sense now. Thanks.

FOGhorn? Well, this guy likes to use the word „fog“. See in my journal where he’s (in this case using the „tooyoung“ profile) stating I’d spread „fog“. What a coincidence, right?

This tooyoung guy is just busted now and no one believes this a credible and genuine profile anymore.

I hope he still stays a while just for the laughs. I like how he makes a fool of himself. Really entertaining!

[LetoMan]

Haha, very good observation. I saw some pieces of this puzzle but this makes sense now. Thanks.

I have to admit, another brother turned me on to the idea. But like you say many of us have had our suspicions. I’m sure a little more legwork can confirm more.

I’m sure more leg work would turn up some more wierd stuff. For example, I just noted this. Pumpless alleges that he has had Urofill done by Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250519&hilit=Perito#p250519

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250578&hilit=Perito#p250578

Tooyoung generally hates Perito. His posts are filled with accusations of his bias. But! Early on in his posting life he advises two different brothers that they can discuss Urofill with Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26413&p=252240&hilit=Perito#p252240

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20691&p=252635&hilit=Perito#p252635

Super weird dude with some serious psychological issues, haha. Likes to joke about how Perito owns a strip club. No idea if that’s true. But if I were Perito I might wonder if I had a stalker.

[tooyoung]

There is a really good post by niceguy1 who went from IPP to MPP and back to IPP. While acknowledging the limitations of the IPP, he still preferred it over the malleable (which kept buckling on him and decreased his girth).

Rodsmen has a CX which he has literally put through THOUSANDS of cycles without problem. He might be someone to talk to about IPP durability.

I’m in the “younger” bracket of implant patients as well and am also looking at some future revisions. What needs to be remembered is that there will probably be improvements in that time, like Coloplast FINALLY fixing their fucking tubing for instance.

Niceguy1’s journal is very valuable and definitely worth considering. But there are other successful malleable implant stories too—like mbambo, duke_cicero, and Edindia. Also, JH006 and cautiouslyoptimistic switched from an IPP to a malleable because they didn’t like the tubing and pump. There are plenty of success stories shared in the WhatsApp group as well.

I don’t think the malleable is suitable for everyone, especially for those with large dicks. MPPs have a limited maximum diameter—around 13–14 mm per rod. If undersizing occurs (which is almost inevitable in larger cases), it can lead to girth loss, wobbling, and buckling. I also doubt that the Coloplast Genesis offers optimal axial rigidity, particularly at smaller sizes. That’s why I recommend the Rigi10.

As for the “someone has an implant, you should talk to him about reliability” argument— I’ve attached 3 ipp implantees (maximum allowed is 3) and can speak directly about reliability. Hopefully, that tired argument can finally be put to rest .

[pumpless_mtfckr]

alright now here my lord and urofill master perito is the dang best if yall lookin fer a implant im tellin ya straight up if ya want somethin that aint gon let ya down get ya a malleable cuz that joker is tough as a john deere tractor on a sunday mornin now if ya talkin bout keepin them dollars in line and dealin with all them fancy insurance folks well then ya grab ya a ipp from them coloplast and ams fellers cuz that’s where the financial reliability comes in shoot it’s like choosin between a hound dog that always comes home and a fancy show horse that costs more to feed than my whole pickup truck y'all! Long live my master perito

[tooyoung]

Haha, very good observation. I saw some pieces of this puzzle but this makes sense now. Thanks.

I have to admit, another brother turned me on to the idea. But like you say many of us have had our suspicions. I’m sure a little more legwork can confirm more.

I’m sure more leg work would turn up some more wierd stuff. For example, I just noted this. Pumpless alleges that he has had Urofill done by Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250519&hilit=Perito#p250519

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250578&hilit=Perito#p250578

Tooyoung generally hates Perito. His posts are filled with accusations of his bias. But! Early on in his posting life he advises two different brothers that they can discuss Urofill with Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26413&p=252240&hilit=Perito#p252240

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20691&p=252635&hilit=Perito#p252635

Super weird dude with some serious psychological issues, haha. Likes to joke about how Perito owns a strip club. No idea if that’s true. But if I were Perito I might wonder if I had a stalker.

Does it make me weird that my views change over time?
Man, if I were convicted of murder and you were the last lawyer on Earth, I still wouldn't want you to represent me.

[daddel]

Haha, very good observation. I saw some pieces of this puzzle but this makes sense now. Thanks.

I have to admit, another brother turned me on to the idea. But like you say many of us have had our suspicions. I’m sure a little more legwork can confirm more.

I’m sure more leg work would turn up some more wierd stuff. For example, I just noted this. Pumpless alleges that he has had Urofill done by Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250519&hilit=Perito#p250519

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22235&p=250578&hilit=Perito#p250578

Tooyoung generally hates Perito. His posts are filled with accusations of his bias. But! Early on in his posting life he advises two different brothers that they can discuss Urofill with Perito:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=26413&p=252240&hilit=Perito#p252240

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=20691&p=252635&hilit=Perito#p252635

Super weird dude with some serious psychological issues, haha. Likes to joke about how Perito owns a strip club. No idea if that’s true. But if I were Perito I might wonder if I had a stalker.

Does it make me weird that my views change over time?
Man, if I were convicted of murder and you were the last lawyer on Earth, I still wouldn't want you to represent me.

Hey Mr. Fake-Profile Foghorn eerrrrrmmm I mean tooyoung.

What nice conspiracy fairytale against IPP manufacturers or doctors are you presenting to us today? Of course based on all kind of „evidence“ which you of course always have well prepared and ready in 2 seconds

Popcorn and beer is ready. Thanks for your entertainment!