Fuck....broke another one....

[Thisworld]

It's funny; I'm noticing more and more people on this board, mostly younger guys, getting implanted with malleables--it's almost like a malleable revolution. I said it in an earlier post, but I don't think the tech for the IPP is quite there yet, and the future of penile implants will simply be what originally was: the malleable.

The other interesting thing is that this uptick began really only last year. Beyond that, it was almost impossible to find anyone with a malleable, barring a few exceptions. LMCatman's experience now only makes me want to swap more than ever. I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

Are you considering the risk of erosion, urethra injury, less axial rigidity, loss of girth or the fact the it needs to be slightly undersized?
Those wuold be some things to consider imo with a malleable

[nick40]

how often the implant is used? go to gym?

[Mike1987a]

should play a role and how often weight lifting works i think what you say?

[fucked0ne]

It's funny; I'm noticing more and more people on this board, mostly younger guys, getting implanted with malleables--it's almost like a malleable revolution. I said it in an earlier post, but I don't think the tech for the IPP is quite there yet, and the future of penile implants will simply be what originally was: the malleable.

The other interesting thing is that this uptick began really only last year. Beyond that, it was almost impossible to find anyone with a malleable, barring a few exceptions. LMCatman's experience now only makes me want to swap more than ever. I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

Are you considering the risk of erosion, urethra injury, less axial rigidity, loss of girth or the fact the it needs to be slightly undersized?
Those wuold be some things to consider imo with a malleable

I've considered and continue to consider all of those things. "Risk of erosion, urethra injury": chances mitigated by choosing a competent surgeon; "less axial rigidity": average force of the Rigi10 is 30N, which is enough even for anal sex; "loss of girth or the fact that it needs to be slightly undersized": there are cosmetic options to restore girth. I'm hoping I can attenuate length loss by stretching my penis using my current IPP (I'll add VED two months prior to surgical date). I'm thinking that with this increase in length, the downsizing of 1cm (2cm if you have diabetes) will simply bring me to my pre-op size or somewhere around that. At least that's what I'm hoping. Another thing is, after reading about all the breaks and miscellaneous issues the IPP can and often does encounter, is it worth sacrificing a centimeter? I can tell you, now having an IPP, that it may be--at least for me. We'll see.

Some people love the IPP, and I think that's great. For me, I have a buggy pump and don't really care for the way the IPP feels when inflated (kind of like your dick is being stretched from the inside by something). This is my first IPP, so the impression has already been made. Imagine it's the first time you muster up the strength to talk to a chick and she throws a drink in your face. Everyone around you laughs. It would likely establish a distaste to ever want to relive that experience again. First impressions are important.

One of the things I find appealing about the MPP, and this is something everyone who has one says, is the "natural feeling"; it feels like a natural penis, like a natural erection. I miss that feeling.

[frank66665]

The longest one you had lasted four years. Hey man, God bless you for having that many revisions, but I personally would've gotten a malleable LONG ago. These things just DO NOT LAST as long as advertised. Period.

That's my impression. And I think the shape and spaces of certain anatomies may be more problematic than others.

I'm scared to death of revisions. I was scheduled for an AMS CX for a long time and pulled out. The Genesis malleable is far from perfect, but it seems to be the most conservative option of all implants

It's funny; I'm noticing more and more people on this board, mostly younger guys, getting implanted with malleables--it's almost like a malleable revolution. I said it in an earlier post, but I don't think the tech for the IPP is quite there yet, and the future of penile implants will simply be what originally was: the malleable.

The other interesting thing is that this uptick began really only last year. Beyond that, it was almost impossible to find anyone with a malleable, barring a few exceptions. LMCatman's experience now only makes me want to swap more than ever. I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

everything is being overturned because an infinite number of breakages are coming to light, now we are seeing the imperfections of the inflatable which far surpasses the malleable, the truth is that the inflatable has been pushed above all by implantologists, precisely because the patient in his life will return to their implantologist 2/3/4/5 times, now we are seeing that they return to their implantologist 3/5 times in just a few years, to the point of giving up and switching to a malleable one, they have now entered a vortex of money, they no longer do what is good for the patient but for their own pockets and that of their cronies (the producers) I take it out more on the doctors because they have taken the Hippocratic oath, they are the ones who should treat people and advise the better, one day a urologist who was NOT an implantologist told me, if you put the prosthesis, put the malleable one, instead I trusted the implantologist, without understanding that it's all a drawing made on the table

[fucked0ne]

That's my impression. And I think the shape and spaces of certain anatomies may be more problematic than others.

I'm scared to death of revisions. I was scheduled for an AMS CX for a long time and pulled out. The Genesis malleable is far from perfect, but it seems to be the most conservative option of all implants

It's funny; I'm noticing more and more people on this board, mostly younger guys, getting implanted with malleables--it's almost like a malleable revolution. I said it in an earlier post, but I don't think the tech for the IPP is quite there yet, and the future of penile implants will simply be what originally was: the malleable.

The other interesting thing is that this uptick began really only last year. Beyond that, it was almost impossible to find anyone with a malleable, barring a few exceptions. LMCatman's experience now only makes me want to swap more than ever. I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

everything is being overturned because an infinite number of breakages are coming to light, now we are seeing the imperfections of the inflatable which far surpasses the malleable, the truth is that the inflatable has been pushed above all by implantologists, precisely because the patient in his life will return to their implantologist 2/3/4/5 times, now we are seeing that they return to their implantologist 3/5 times in just a few years, to the point of giving up and switching to a malleable one, they have now entered a vortex of money, they no longer do what is good for the patient but for their own pockets and that of their cronies (the producers) I take it out more on the doctors because they have taken the Hippocratic oath, they are the ones who should treat people and advise the better, one day a urologist who was NOT an implantologist told me, if you put the prosthesis, put the malleable one, instead I trusted the implantologist, without understanding that it's all a drawing made on the table

I mean, I DO think that the concerns regarding the malleable are valid, but perhaps maybe OVERSTATED when compared to the inflatable. I believe the inflatable is legitimately pushed over the issue of concealment. However, the bottom line is always to make money--I don't think we should be so naive as to believe anything otherwise.

[frank66665]

It's funny; I'm noticing more and more people on this board, mostly younger guys, getting implanted with malleables--it's almost like a malleable revolution. I said it in an earlier post, but I don't think the tech for the IPP is quite there yet, and the future of penile implants will simply be what originally was: the malleable.

The other interesting thing is that this uptick began really only last year. Beyond that, it was almost impossible to find anyone with a malleable, barring a few exceptions. LMCatman's experience now only makes me want to swap more than ever. I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

everything is being overturned because an infinite number of breakages are coming to light, now we are seeing the imperfections of the inflatable which far surpasses the malleable, the truth is that the inflatable has been pushed above all by implantologists, precisely because the patient in his life will return to their implantologist 2/3/4/5 times, now we are seeing that they return to their implantologist 3/5 times in just a few years, to the point of giving up and switching to a malleable one, they have now entered a vortex of money, they no longer do what is good for the patient but for their own pockets and that of their cronies (the producers) I take it out more on the doctors because they have taken the Hippocratic oath, they are the ones who should treat people and advise the better, one day a urologist who was NOT an implantologist told me, if you put the prosthesis, put the malleable one, instead I trusted the implantologist, without understanding that it's all a drawing made on the table

I mean, I DO think that the concerns regarding the malleable are valid, but perhaps maybe OVERSTATED when compared to the inflatable. I believe the inflatable is legitimately pushed over the issue of concealment. However, the bottom line is always to make money--I don't think we should be so naive as to believe anything otherwise.

on the part of implantologists the defects of the malleables are amplified and they minimize and hide the defects of the inflatables, they have smelled an ATM in us by treating us like cannon fodder, I understand that many are happy, but it cannot be ignored that these inflatables are scandalous in terms of quality

[fucked0ne]

everything is being overturned because an infinite number of breakages are coming to light, now we are seeing the imperfections of the inflatable which far surpasses the malleable, the truth is that the inflatable has been pushed above all by implantologists, precisely because the patient in his life will return to their implantologist 2/3/4/5 times, now we are seeing that they return to their implantologist 3/5 times in just a few years, to the point of giving up and switching to a malleable one, they have now entered a vortex of money, they no longer do what is good for the patient but for their own pockets and that of their cronies (the producers) I take it out more on the doctors because they have taken the Hippocratic oath, they are the ones who should treat people and advise the better, one day a urologist who was NOT an implantologist told me, if you put the prosthesis, put the malleable one, instead I trusted the implantologist, without understanding that it's all a drawing made on the table

I mean, I DO think that the concerns regarding the malleable are valid, but perhaps maybe OVERSTATED when compared to the inflatable. I believe the inflatable is legitimately pushed over the issue of concealment. However, the bottom line is always to make money--I don't think we should be so naive as to believe anything otherwise.

on the part of implantologists the defects of the malleables are amplified and they minimize and hide the defects of the inflatables, they have smelled an ATM in us by treating us like cannon fodder, I understand that many are happy, but it cannot be ignored that these inflatables are scandalous in terms of quality

Yeah, I agree with that. When a product is supposed to last 10-15 years and a guy has four breaks in a decade, I'm sorry, that's not a coincidence. thedriver had four breaks in four years before switching to a Genesis. That's not a coincidence, or even bad luck. That seems to be the norm. If you have one that does last the stated 10-15 years, that's the exception.

[Mark1974]

I don't want to have to deal with riding out a break or any other complication--not to mention the increase in traumatic infection rates with every subsequent revision. No thanks. I'd rather deal with a 24 hour hard on.

This is where my thinking is

[Stewy78]

Fuck....broke another one.... This one lasted four years. Hope to get another soon!

I'm very sorry to hear that. I'm pretty sure the reasons for these failures are due to tubing breakages. Manufacturers are joking us—they should focus on improving the tubing, especially for Titan implants. These prostheses are deliberately not designed to last, and manufacturers are complete pieces of shit.

Top surgeons should refuse to implant these prostheses until the manufacturers improve the tubing. If they did, the manufacturers would fix the issue in a matter of days, no doubt.

I'm currently on my fourth IPP, and I'm only 36 years old. I've had my current Titan for just over a year. If it doesn't last at least 8–10 years, I'll definitely switch to a malleable implant.

it's like the dog chasing its tail, it is especially better for implantologists to keep quiet, if the operation as well as the device were also under warranty, then they would make things that are wrong improve in the blink of an eye, it's a tacit agreement, the implantologists say that it lasts 10/15 years, and the producers at most lose a piece of silicone with a pump, and the implantologists pocket the biggest chunk due to revisions, things must continue to go forward thus, it is convenient for everyone, in fact they have reduced the guarantees in many countries from 10 to 5 years, if a manufacturer drops the guarantee from 10 to 5 it means that it has established over the years that 5/6/7 years can be achieved, beyond i 10 they are a very small part

Serious surgeons like Eid, hakky and also my current surgeon are clear about the three pieces issues: they told me that tubing is a big issue and coloplast don't want to hear that. The "prothesis merchants" like Antonini that are unscrupulous surgeons just tell you that last 15/20 years and don't mention any of the possibile problems.