I’m 5 inches after surgery :|

[Wooody]

I would recommend you not listen to a single word from men on FrankTalk who believe they have the authority to predict your exact size. They don't have a clue. And just like you, some dude told me back in Dec. 2021 that I was totally undersized and was gonna lose inches. I think I upset him somehow. Men talking about the size of other men's dicks is a conversation topic that will absolutely never end up well, ever.

I hear you. I won’t engage in size predictions of others. All I know is I was sized on the aggressive side by Dr Karpman and the tips are halfway into my glans.

I’ll go by his advice and start cycling next week 2-3x per day 45-60mins adding a few pumps midway through each session and see what it gets me after 3-4 months.

[Copilot77]

You have same size implant as I do and same RTEs I’m close to 7 in length and over 6” in girth which is definitely up from any time pre implant. I was over an inch short at first pump after implant as most are. It will come back if properly sized which sounds like you probably are. Time will heal most things that have to do with issues with your implant. Hang in there…. Best is yet to cum…

That’s good to hear Rider!

Def makes me very excited for the future.

Q: Oh wow, I wonder if this is a big dick size compared to the implant size we have .

Q: What was your size pre op ?

For me I was a little over 6 inches erect

And the doc measure me flaccid at 5.7 for some reason.

On another note, I haven’t seen my 6.5 to 7 inch penis in 5 plus years after I got the injury that caused my ED, so it would be cool to get all that back with this .

Hey it’s good to see someone else we are the same age.

Size pre Op : 8.5
Size Post Op: 7.5

Damn bro I’m happy for you . You’re like a pornstar damn S

[Implant2025]

Three things:
- you're at 6" with a flaccid glans
- you're only 24+ hours post-op
- you have a 23 cm implant (22+1)

Unless you have a lot of belly fat, allowing for 6 cm of the implant being inside your body means your eventual length should easily get back to at least 6.5" with diligent cycling. If you do have a lot of belly fat, then your cock will thank you if you lose some weight.

Hope you’re right. I am very lean and muscular, former bodybuilding competitor and still in shape, so I can’t gain there. But will see what cycling gets me!

I would recommend you not listen to a single word from men on FrankTalk who believe they have the authority to predict your exact size. They don't have a clue. And just like you, some dude told me back in Dec. 2021 that I was totally undersized and was gonna lose inches. I think I upset him somehow. Men talking about the size of other men's dicks is a conversation topic that will absolutely never end up well, ever.

We can argue about this all night, except I could care less. I wasn't making a prediction nor did I claim to be an authority, rather I just made an observation. Wooody you don't need to take my opinion about your probable size, you can decide for yourself. It's just my opinion.

But you can read here on FrankTalk for yourself about the size implants that surgeons placed in FT posters bodies, and the size they are reporting after surgery and recovery. I based my observation simply on the following: most of the guys implanted stories I read with an 18cm implant had in excess of 5" after cycling. Most of the implant stories I read by guys who got 21cm implants ended up at 6+ inches after cycling. And you got 23 cm.

[2435tjklAS]

Implant2025
We can argue about this all night, except I could care less. I wasn't making a prediction nor did I claim to be an authority, rather I just made an observation. Wooody you don't need to take my opinion about your probable size, you can decide for yourself. It's just my opinion.

But you can read here on FrankTalk for yourself about the size implants that surgeons placed in FT posters bodies, and the size they are reporting after surgery and recovery. I based my observation simply on the following: most of the guys implanted stories I read with an 18cm implant had in excess of 5" after cycling. Most of the implant stories I read by guys who got 21cm implants ended up at 6+ inches after cycling. And you got 23 cm.

We don't need to argue about anything. Your supposition that based on the size of a man's implant that you can accurately and reliably predict his final size is wrong. I posted the same question long time ago and got good answers about why:

Not really a lot can be determined from implant size alone. Some men with the same measurements as me are much bigger. The thing is we are different and so are doctors skill and experience levels. Some of us have size loss greater than others. Some of the size loss can be recovered with cycling or VED use and I did have some gains past 1 year. Some have a deeper Crus (the space where the implant goes into your body. So no not much can be told strictly with the numbers. Give it a year if you have size loss and are going to cycle or use VED for this to mostly max out. This is really slow and to the point of just measuring every month or 2 after 3 months or so. Measurement when first inflating will be short and there will be in many cases good gains over the first 3 months then that will slow. At least it did with me.

There is a rule of thumb that 1/3 is inside your body and 2/3 in your penis but that is not accurate much of the time. Many are either shorter or longer.

Also,

Oh good, the question has not been totally answered. I get to pretend I’m the science guy tonight.

Here’s your answer:

Yes, implant size is related to penis size.

No, it isn’t a perfect correlation. You can’t look at a guy’s implant numbers and know exactly what he’s packing. Lol I’m not sure why anyone would want to. Then again we are male and size is an issue for many of us even when it shouldn’t be.

If you are old enough to have an implant, I guess by now you’ve figured out that not all of your penis is visible. There is a healthy amount concealed behind the pubic bone.

Just like penises come in a variety of sizes, shapes, and colors…..the amount of hidden penis varies widely between men. A general of thumb is that between 1/4 and 1/3 of the penis is hidden back there. For a guy with 6 visible inches, that means he has 1.5 to 2 inches tucked away unseen. So our 6” guy really has 7 1/2, maybe 8 inches.

And those numbers are just a rule of thumb. It’s not unheard of for a guy to have less or more hidden away. A guy with very little hidden penis is said to have a shallow crus. Someone with a lot more penis tucked away back there is referred to as someone with a deep crus.

During surgery, I believe it’s typical (I was asleep) for the surgeon to tie a suture in the vicinity of the pubic bone and take measurements. From the suture to the furthermost point he can get in the glans is the distal measurement. From the suture back up into the body where the corporeal bodies started is the proximal measurement. Using these two measurements allows the doc to size a guy’s implant properly.

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I need to point out also that this data you gained from reading what men say about their dick size is not reliable information. They don't even need to be lying (though many are) but they can use measuring techniques that are different and/or read the results selectively.

[equusAz]

To the OP:

Goodness - bet you didn't think posting about size would lead to THIS argument on here!!

In all seriousness there are reasons Doctors and the companies that make these implants state HOW gains are made in their implants. I can only speak for the AMS brand as thats what I have. The CX only expands in girth, and the LGX in both girth and length. Note - thats what THEY say. In reality? The CX will expand on both, just not to the extent of the LGX which is designed to do both. There are scientific predictors they are sticking to for one reason. Liability. They will NOT make a statement that could land them in court. Sure, some people in here MAY get the CX to expand a LOT in length AND girth, but...thats not what it was designed to do. Good for them in doing it, but - the maker isn't going to state that due to - you guessed it - liability!

Now - I can't predict or estimate what you will get or not get for the same reasons above - also add in that all bodies are different and will respond differently under these circumstances. That being said - as others have said - do the exercises. The Perito exercises have shown that you can gain some size back through doing them, but its going to be a L O N G process. Up to a year. So - buckle up and prepare for the long haul. I'm pretty certain you WILL gain size back as the implant stretches and your body responds and stretches a bit. It WILL be a little painful to do the stretches - so be prepared for that. After a while they become just uncomfortable - and that discomfort only last a few minutes after stopping the stretch (with maybe an odd twinge here and there).

I'm just about three months in from my surgery and I've gotten some size back. I'm doing a photo diary - one set of pics a week (or there abouts) in my journal. Pg 9 has my first comparison pic (week 7 vs 11). I have the CX - so mostly I'll gain girth back, but I have gained length at this point as well. We shall see where I end up. I'll take measurement pics at the 3 month mark (next week).

The most important thing to remember in your journey is that your dick will work again. THATS what this surgery is for - not for size gains - or the super power of lasting for hours on end - but to get it working again. All of the other things - IF they work for you (i.e. you CAN last for hours and you DO get gains) then thats gravy on the top. I can tell you quite honestly it was great to be able to have sex again after almost a year and a half of nothing. And....if I'd had to do it again? Have the surgery, even considering that I COULD lose size? Then absolutely. But thats me.

Best of luck on YOUR journey - and keep us posted here so we can follow your progress!

[easymoney]

I have stated this before ... if you had ED no erections at all. And a Dr. told you he could do an implant but you would lose a 1/2 inch in the process. How many men on here would have the surgery done anyways just to regain their sex life. I'd bet without a doubt it would be at least 97% .. our most important goal is to get back into the sexual game. I'm seeing younger and younger guys on here with ED issues getting and wanting implants. Us older guys 65+ why in the hell are we obsessed with size so much, who are we impressing? Just my 2 cents once again ..

[Copilot77]

To the OP:

Goodness - bet you didn't think posting about size would lead to THIS argument on here!!

In all seriousness there are reasons Doctors and the companies that make these implants state HOW gains are made in their implants. I can only speak for the AMS brand as thats what I have. The CX only expands in girth, and the LGX in both girth and length. Note - thats what THEY say. In reality? The CX will expand on both, just not to the extent of the LGX which is designed to do both. There are scientific predictors they are sticking to for one reason. Liability. They will NOT make a statement that could land them in court. Sure, some people in here MAY get the CX to expand a LOT in length AND girth, but...thats not what it was designed to do. Good for them in doing it, but - the maker isn't going to state that due to - you guessed it - liability!

Now - I can't predict or estimate what you will get or not get for the same reasons above - also add in that all bodies are different and will respond differently under these circumstances. That being said - as others have said - do the exercises. The Perito exercises have shown that you can gain some size back through doing them, but its going to be a L O N G process. Up to a year. So - buckle up and prepare for the long haul. I'm pretty certain you WILL gain size back as the implant stretches and your body responds and stretches a bit. It WILL be a little painful to do the stretches - so be prepared for that. After a while they become just uncomfortable - and that discomfort only last a few minutes after stopping the stretch (with maybe an odd twinge here and there).

I'm just about three months in from my surgery and I've gotten some size back. I'm doing a photo diary - one set of pics a week (or there abouts) in my journal. Pg 9 has my first comparison pic (week 7 vs 11). I have the CX - so mostly I'll gain girth back, but I have gained length at this point as well. We shall see where I end up. I'll take measurement pics at the 3 month mark (next week).

The most important thing to remember in your journey is that your dick will work again. THATS what this surgery is for - not for size gains - or the super power of lasting for hours on end - but to get it working again. All of the other things - IF they work for you (i.e. you CAN last for hours and you DO get gains) then thats gravy on the top. I can tell you quite honestly it was great to be able to have sex again after almost a year and a half of nothing. And....if I'd had to do it again? Have the surgery, even considering that I COULD lose size? Then absolutely. But thats me.

Best of luck on YOUR journey - and keep us posted here so we can follow your progress!

I’m gaining 2 inches back nobody can stop me !!!!

[equusAz]

I’m gaining 2 inches back nobody can stop me !!!!

Best quote ever and best attitude ever!!!:D

[Discovernew]

You have same size implant as I do and same RTEs I’m close to 7 in length and over 6” in girth which is definitely up from any time pre implant. I was over an inch short at first pump after implant as most are. It will come back if properly sized which sounds like you probably are. Time will heal most things that have to do with issues with your implant. Hang in there…. Best is yet to cum…

how long did it take you to see your size increasing after surgery? was regular cycling enough or you needed VED?

[2435tjklAS]

:evil:

I am actually a horny 23 year old. lol

So I can use a VED with my Titan implant ?

I have PTSD from my old vacuum device because my balls got stuck in it.

Meant to reply to this earlier. Yes there's proof VEDs are effective in gaining size with Titans. I was going to reply with the study I attached because I
remember it as being great confirmation of possible length and girth size increases with the Titan. But before replying to you I wanted to make sure it mentioned VEDs and it doesn't. I think that's actually a good thing. With only aggressive cycling alone you can do this:

This study suggests that the use of the Coloplast Titan cylinder, combined with optimization of cylinder length, and daily inflation for 1 year postoperation result in patient satisfaction with penile length and girth of the implanted erect penis. Penile measurements before, at time of surgery, and 1 year later suggest this regimen can maintain or even increase girth and length when compared with the patient’s immediate postoperative measurements.

Henry, G. D., Carrion, R., Jennermann, C., & Wang, R. u. n. (2015). Prospective evaluation of postoperative penile rehabilitation: Penile length/girth maintenance 1 year following Coloplast Titan inflatable penile prosthesis. The Journal of Sexual Medicine, 12(5), Article 5. https://doi.org/10.1111/jsm.12833

But should you also use VEDs? Well, it might not be necessary, but I thought I found something really good here only until I thought about it a little more:

Patients using the vacuum protocol seem satisfied with their postoperative penile length regardless of the type of cylinder implanted. We have used all the inflatable cylinders available from both manufacturers (AMS CX, AMS LGX, Mentor Alpha 1, Coloplast Titan) with vacuum preparation and no cylinder had better outcomes than the others. Early in our experience, we used a preponderance of lengthening cylinders (AMS LGX) believing it to theoretically be the ideal cylinder for this protocol. In recent years, however, we have no preference since the LGX failed to show superiority in patient satisfaction and can become a liability (“s” shape deformity) if the patient was not compliant with the post operative daily inflation (Figure 4).

Sellers, T., Dineen, M., Salem, E. A., & Wilson, S. K. (2013). Vacuum preparation, optimization of cylinder length, and postoperative daily inflation reduces complaints of shortened penile length following implantation of inflatable penile prosthesis. Advances in Sexual Medicine, 3(1), 14–18. https://doi.org/10.4236/asm.2013.31003

Technically that is only saying that using a VED before surgery was equally helpful in giving men good sizes of those different implant types, but it doesn't mention using them post-op.

I can't seem to find any information on using VEDs after specifically a Titan implant. Doesn't mean it's not out there, I just can't find it. But there's tons of proof it's best to use VEDs months before, and there's tons of proof modern implants are no longer causing size losses, and there's large amounts of proof that VEDs have a positive result in increasing size and aren't having a negative effect on any types of implant post-op.

Can my final answer cite Dr. Hakky telling me in a video that after giving me my Titan that "If we're not happy in 6-12 months of vacuum stretching, which you can't do for 4 weeks or 6 weeks after surgery..." If the best known implant specialists are giving men Titans and AMSs and other brands are telling their patients to use VEDs after surgery for 6-12 months, that means you can too.

About your PTSD from the pump grabbing your balls, I do understand that and want to share how I bet none of us knew we could do this shit to our dicks. First time using a VED I asked OregonStrong here if it was gonna break my dick. But it didn't, because they don't. To pass on what others taught me, you'll eventually get used to it.