Implant Journal

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.



equusAz
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby equusAz » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:27 am

So i dont know all my proper measurements as its not something thats been shared with me i likely need to request it, but i know im 18+3. Before surgery i was about 5.3 to 5.5 inches in length, in a vacuumed device i could pull 6 inches, Right now (im only 18 days into recovery) I'm 4" flaccid also and i too have the ams 700 cx.

Doing some quick napkin maths i should have ended up at about 4.8 inches erect (based on the 18cm inflatable part) or 5.5 inches if the length also includes the +3 I'm really not sure how it works im sure there are others on here that know it better problem is everyones anatomy is different. I haven't got my actual erect length yet but from what i see people do seem to get about 3/4 to half an inch added when fully inflated.

Honestly personally if i can pull out 5" i'll take the half an inch loss for a working dick but only time will tell, hopfully some is regained through cycling.


Sounds pretty close to me. I got 18cm + 1cm / 2cm RTE, Before surgery I'd say I was closer to 6.5." Pre Cancer I was 7.5. I'll be happy to get "back" to 6. Everyone's internals are different and of course how much weight you are carrying (fat in the middle) does impact visibility and depth to a degree. Surgeon was telling me of some of his horror stories and to not sweat the size too much. The guy sees 1,000+ dicks a year so if he's pleased how I look - then I should be as well.

My back of the math napkin does indicate (if we take the 1/2 to 30% of implant is hidden in your body) I should be anywhere between 3.5-5.5. Looks like I'm falling right inside there. If I DO gain .75-.5 inch upon inflation that'll take me to 5-5.25. Cycling may get me another .5-1 inch. If I gain 1 inch on my thickness I could (theoretically) after cycling be around 6x6. Average but THICK.

I'm young enough that a revision will be in my future - and at that time I'll have them size me a bit more agressively. I am thinking I may need revision before then as I may end up with a partial floppy glans here thanks to the tips not seating correctly on the right side. If he DOES have to go back in I'll ask him to be a tad more agressive and try to take some of the slack out (as it were).

I am quite pleased on the thickness and overall flaccid look. Like I said 2-3" soft and maybe 4" thick flaccid before - now with a 4.5" soft with 5" flaccid? I'll take that. Been trying on jocks this morning to see what I'll look like and I am enjoying that quite a bit.

Again - while I may bitch that I'm not as hung as I once was, I will be absolutely thrilled with a working dick again.
48yo gay married male - Size before cancer / ED = 7.5" x 6.25" (current 5.5x5.2). AMS 700 CX implanted 12/9/24. 18cm + 1cm RTE and 18cm + 2cm RTE.
Implant Journal: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25158

RMJ9224
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby RMJ9224 » Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:55 am

equusAz wrote:
So i dont know all my proper measurements as its not something thats been shared with me i likely need to request it, but i know im 18+3. Before surgery i was about 5.3 to 5.5 inches in length, in a vacuumed device i could pull 6 inches, Right now (im only 18 days into recovery) I'm 4" flaccid also and i too have the ams 700 cx.

Doing some quick napkin maths i should have ended up at about 4.8 inches erect (based on the 18cm inflatable part) or 5.5 inches if the length also includes the +3 I'm really not sure how it works im sure there are others on here that know it better problem is everyones anatomy is different. I haven't got my actual erect length yet but from what i see people do seem to get about 3/4 to half an inch added when fully inflated.

Honestly personally if i can pull out 5" i'll take the half an inch loss for a working dick but only time will tell, hopfully some is regained through cycling.


Sounds pretty close to me. I got 18cm + 1cm / 2cm RTE, Before surgery I'd say I was closer to 6.5." Pre Cancer I was 7.5. I'll be happy to get "back" to 6. Everyone's internals are different and of course how much weight you are carrying (fat in the middle) does impact visibility and depth to a degree. Surgeon was telling me of some of his horror stories and to not sweat the size too much. The guy sees 1,000+ dicks a year so if he's pleased how I look - then I should be as well.

My back of the math napkin does indicate (if we take the 1/2 to 30% of implant is hidden in your body) I should be anywhere between 3.5-5.5. Looks like I'm falling right inside there. If I DO gain .75-.5 inch upon inflation that'll take me to 5-5.25. Cycling may get me another .5-1 inch. If I gain 1 inch on my thickness I could (theoretically) after cycling be around 6x6. Average but THICK.

I'm young enough that a revision will be in my future - and at that time I'll have them size me a bit more agressively. I am thinking I may need revision before then as I may end up with a partial floppy glans here thanks to the tips not seating correctly on the right side. If he DOES have to go back in I'll ask him to be a tad more agressive and try to take some of the slack out (as it were).

I am quite pleased on the thickness and overall flaccid look. Like I said 2-3" soft and maybe 4" thick flaccid before - now with a 4.5" soft with 5" flaccid? I'll take that. Been trying on jocks this morning to see what I'll look like and I am enjoying that quite a bit.

Again - while I may bitch that I'm not as hung as I once was, I will be absolutely thrilled with a working dick again.


Honestly my thickness is bad, but i knew it would be i was told they actually have complications during the surgery because of the girth. i have just measured it was 10cm girth currently so roughly 4 inches. actually an improvement i've had pretty bad venus leak from what im guessing is since birth and i've never had a stiff erection in my life i get the length through but it never supported its self and any kind of knocking on it would cause what i did get to collapse. i guess i really shouldn't "complain" about my length coming from that but its a nice to have lol. I'm 32 so i am most definitely going to have revisions in my life time much like your self i am hoping i get gains during them.

And for refence on my height and stuff i'm 6 foot 5 and was at the time 238 lbs. i am currently 250lbs because i've been eating like an absolute beast since surgery to speed up my recovery which as worked wonders, i'll sort the weight out later haha

equusAz
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby equusAz » Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:15 am

4" thickness is NOT bad. I've always been a thick boy (dick wise). One of my first long term bf's was 5x4. Did the job just fine!

Weight wise I'm 5'9" and 165 or so. I do need to lose a little bit of weight around my middle but hey - I'm not 30 anymore. I'm 48 - pushing 50. You have PLENTY of time left. 6' 5"!? Monster sized lol.

I imagine you may see SOME gain - remember these devices are not intended to get you bigger - just functional. Size is determined by biology of the penis and the trick is getting the devices to match the biology to ensure you're close to original size.

For me - I wont see my original size of 7.5x6.25 - at least not the length as I lost some of that during my prostatectomy and then gradually over the last year thanks to Peyrones and attrophy. I could write a long story about WHY - but the short version is VED exaserbated the Peyrones and the doc was concerned that doing too much of that would cause more damage than not - and it did so I let off on it and just did injections - which still caused damage thanks to Peyrones.

So - if I get:
Less deformity
Working dick

I'll consider myself lucky.

If I include:
Close to original thickness

I'll consider myself very fortunate

If I also get:
Close to my original size in length

Well...I don't know what you'd call that - but I think its unlikely. :D
48yo gay married male - Size before cancer / ED = 7.5" x 6.25" (current 5.5x5.2). AMS 700 CX implanted 12/9/24. 18cm + 1cm RTE and 18cm + 2cm RTE.
Implant Journal: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25158

equusAz
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby equusAz » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:04 am

Update 1 Week (7 Days)

So far healing has been good. Only mild discomfort in general since coming off the dilauded on Weds last week. I've been keeping up with Ibupropherin (800mg) and Tylenol (1000mg) alternating every 6 hours each (pills at 6am, 9am, Noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, Midnight). Most of my discomfort has been in my testies with minimal discomfort at the head of my dick. Most of THAT has been because I have some numbness going on which should return later.

Well...last night I couldn't get back to sleep after taking my Ibupropherin at 3am and was feeling and exploring my pump. I was curious as to how hard of a bulb it was and got a bit scared because it felt SUPER stiff and was worried it might be stuck so I gave it a bit more of a squeese and PRESTO.

I felt the valve activate and I had inadvertantly given myself a pump.

Uhoh. :shock:

Quickly hopped on to the FT forums and read up on early activation. I had no idea some docs suggest activating as early as 3 days and some as late as 8 weeks. Most of the consensus on early activations are 'if you feel comfortable about deflating, then go ahead.' Since I could feel my deflate button - I gave myself a few more squeezes and hit the deflate and felt the odd buzzing sensation of the AMS deflate.

Success.

Ok - and zero discomfort. So I tried again - and felt the valve activate. I went to five sqeezes and felt pressure and bit more discomfort deep in my crus. So I stopped and paused. Then deflated. I did this a few more times getting up to 12 squeezes or so before there was too much discomfort.

I was relieved in a lot of ways by this for various reasons.

1. I had proof this thing worked and wasn't some huge mistake.

2. I also knew HOW it worked now. Seeing videos and hearing stories is one thing - having done it is another.

3. I also saw I DID gain length upon inflation AND girth. It wasn't HUGE - but I would estimate I got to 5.25 or so in girth and 5" in length total - might have been more - but I'm being conservative.

4. I felt the tips 'seat' properly in my glans meaning I am sized properly. It sucks having lost so much length thanks to cancer, prostatectomy and Peyrones but hey - I now know for sure where I am at the uncertainty is gone.

I DO NOT RECOMEND DOING THIS for everyone however. I've been a firm believer in listening to my body and I have always been a fast healer. I would HATE for someone reading this to do this WAY too early and injuring themselves. For the record - yeah - I did this - but I think I'm gonna be waiting a bit before doing much more than I have. No stretching or anything like that for a while.

However - having the ability to get an erection at this point WHEN I want without an injection or pills?

Heaven.

I also have confidence I will definitely get some size back. ;)
48yo gay married male - Size before cancer / ED = 7.5" x 6.25" (current 5.5x5.2). AMS 700 CX implanted 12/9/24. 18cm + 1cm RTE and 18cm + 2cm RTE.
Implant Journal: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25158

RMJ9224
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby RMJ9224 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:28 am

equusAz wrote:Update 1 Week (7 Days)

So far healing has been good. Only mild discomfort in general since coming off the dilauded on Weds last week. I've been keeping up with Ibupropherin (800mg) and Tylenol (1000mg) alternating every 6 hours each (pills at 6am, 9am, Noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, Midnight). Most of my discomfort has been in my testies with minimal discomfort at the head of my dick. Most of THAT has been because I have some numbness going on which should return later.

Well...last night I couldn't get back to sleep after taking my Ibupropherin at 3am and was feeling and exploring my pump. I was curious as to how hard of a bulb it was and got a bit scared because it felt SUPER stiff and was worried it might be stuck so I gave it a bit more of a squeese and PRESTO.

I felt the valve activate and I had inadvertantly given myself a pump.

Uhoh. :shock:

Quickly hopped on to the FT forums and read up on early activation. I had no idea some docs suggest activating as early as 3 days and some as late as 8 weeks. Most of the consensus on early activations are 'if you feel comfortable about deflating, then go ahead.' Since I could feel my deflate button - I gave myself a few more squeezes and hit the deflate and felt the odd buzzing sensation of the AMS deflate.

Success.

Ok - and zero discomfort. So I tried again - and felt the valve activate. I went to five sqeezes and felt pressure and bit more discomfort deep in my crus. So I stopped and paused. Then deflated. I did this a few more times getting up to 12 squeezes or so before there was too much discomfort.

I was relieved in a lot of ways by this for various reasons.

1. I had proof this thing worked and wasn't some huge mistake.

2. I also knew HOW it worked now. Seeing videos and hearing stories is one thing - having done it is another.

3. I also saw I DID gain length upon inflation AND girth. It wasn't HUGE - but I would estimate I got to 5.25 or so in girth and 5" in length total - might have been more - but I'm being conservative.

4. I felt the tips 'seat' properly in my glans meaning I am sized properly. It sucks having lost so much length thanks to cancer, prostatectomy and Peyrones but hey - I now know for sure where I am at the uncertainty is gone.

I DO NOT RECOMEND DOING THIS for everyone however. I've been a firm believer in listening to my body and I have always been a fast healer. I would HATE for someone reading this to do this WAY too early and injuring themselves. For the record - yeah - I did this - but I think I'm gonna be waiting a bit before doing much more than I have. No stretching or anything like that for a while.

However - having the ability to get an erection at this point WHEN I want without an injection or pills?

Heaven.

I also have confidence I will definitely get some size back. ;)


Funny that you should of done that, when i was messing with my pump the other day i put a squeeze in it by accident also did me a little "oh shit" moment but then deflated it, tomorrow is my 3 week post op, i've spoken to the nurse who has said i wont be able to see them for the activation appointment as shes got time off around xmas but if i felt confident to inflate by my self to give it a shot, She told me the worse thing that can happen is i cant deflate it and im stuck with a boner for a few weeks.

I've chosen tonight to attempt to cycle mine i hope mine goes as well as yours, feel everything get seated exactly where it needs to and make sure everything works. My pump is still in a less than ideal location so i think im gonna have more pain from squeezing the pump than caused by the actual implant, but i have saved some codeine for this exact reason so i'll have some reasonable pain meds to get me through.

RMJ9224
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby RMJ9224 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:10 pm

Well I inflated... ouch, my pump location made it harder than it should of been. Slipped on the first pump but got a good 3/4 in 2nd pump was much harder to press got maybe half the bulb in then all pumps after that were micro pumps because the bulb turned into a literal rock.

Got it standing on its end with a decent firmness did overall 10 or so micro pumps and 2 decent pumps. I have not been so lucky on the sizing as you though my right tube seems to just about make it into the glans we are talking millimeters and the left tube is short of entering which is pretty sad.

Could be a potential sizing issue but I won't know what kind of impact it's going to have until I start having sex. Managed to hold the pump for 30 mins before it got uncomfortable. Not sure in going to be able to do it tomorrow as the fat pad I'm squeezing feels pretty sore.

equusAz
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby equusAz » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:49 am

14 Days / 2 Weeks since surgery

Its official - I am 2 weeks out. So far - so good. No infection - never really had major bruising and only minor swelling after surgery for a couple of days which subsided.

For the record - I do NOT recomend pumping as early as I did. Didn't intend on it - and I'm NOT doing it every day. I've only done it a few times. Decided to take some pics for progress of healing. Most of you will probably say there is no way this is 2 weeks out but hey - I heal fast. First pic is of it 'flaccid' or unpumped. About 4.5 long and still about 4.7" thick. Next two pics are at about 5 pumps - just a little bit. Takes me to a good 5.25" and 5". I'd say thats about 1/2 pumped or do. I know I can get a bit longer and thicker (to about 5.25-5.5) with more pumps but I don't want to push my healing quite yet.


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Not jacking off is driving me nuts though.

Has a slight curve to the left - which is strange as my natural state had a slight curve to the left. Go figure. Managing pain with just Tylenol (1,000 mg every 6 hours) and Ibupropherin (800 mg every 6 hours) alternating. I have gone longer than that without pain meds but it starts to get uncomfortable.
48yo gay married male - Size before cancer / ED = 7.5" x 6.25" (current 5.5x5.2). AMS 700 CX implanted 12/9/24. 18cm + 1cm RTE and 18cm + 2cm RTE.
Implant Journal: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25158

nuance
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby nuance » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:53 am

Thanks for the update. Do you have the tenacio pump?

equusAz
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby equusAz » Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:25 am

Thanks for the update. Do you have the tenacio pump?


No - I have the older MS series pump. I asked my surgeon about that and his opinion was "its new, there isn't enough data on reliability, and I've never had a patient have an issue with the MS series."
48yo gay married male - Size before cancer / ED = 7.5" x 6.25" (current 5.5x5.2). AMS 700 CX implanted 12/9/24. 18cm + 1cm RTE and 18cm + 2cm RTE.
Implant Journal: https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25158

RMJ9224
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Re: Implant Journal

Postby RMJ9224 » Tue Dec 24, 2024 5:00 pm

so thought i'd update you as we were sized very similarly and both walked out with about 4" i've been cycling for a week now, inflated i've remeasured mines now at about 4.9" i guess there was more swelling than i realised it didnt look like it but i cant attribute that growth to 1 week of cycling either.


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