Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby Kodixx » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:41 pm

Guys, every now and then someone says something, whether intended or not, that tells you a lot about their personality and motivations.
tooyoung wrote:I tried to attract everyone even the medicared...believe me but idealists {followed by insults}

Ask yourself -- why would any forum member's primary concern be attracting other people to them ? How many of you sign into FrankTalk and your primary motivation is "attracting" other people to you ? So ask yourself, why would someone behave that way ?

And to what lengths would he be willing to go if that's his primary motivation ?

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LetoMan wrote:Voila. That’s tooyoung, pumpless and dj_soros. Took me about 1 minute to do all that. I don’t know what he does with the Nessee-whatever alt, probably just says make him sounds like a retard.

I ask you: do you think a person going to these lengths is going to actually give a shit what you think of him? This is a game. He is playing a game to see how long he can annoy us and cause us discomfort. When he sees you annoyed and discomforted, he feels like he is winning.

But doesn’t feel like he is winning if everyone pretty much ignores him, except to point out that he is a troll and no one is engaging with what he wants to argue about. Then he is putting in all that effort and not getting the response he craves.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby Kodixx » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:49 pm

duke_cicero, I agree with you. And what has changed so much since a year ago ? Could it be the involvement of forum member(s) who focus on middle-school name calling and hurling insults at other forum members ?

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duke_cicero wrote:There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved. I admit I got dragged down out of frustration. A year ago, this place was much more positive and resourceful and uplifting. I still want to hang around here and help where I can, but it's growing increasingly less attractive as an option as the toxicity around here continues to grow.
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AMS CX, Tenacio, Dr Broghammer (excellent) pre-op L:7", post-op @ 9 mo L: 6.5=>7.0" G: 5.5=>5.75"
2wks pain, cycling-sex @ 7wks, minor discomfort @ 10wks, felt like 'new normal' @ 16wks

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby duke_cicero » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:29 pm

tooyoung wrote:
Kodixx wrote:duke_cicero, I agree with you. And what has changed so much since a year ago ? Could it be the involvement of forum member(s) who focus on middle-school name calling and hurling insults at other forum members ?

- Chuck
duke_cicero wrote:There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved. I admit I got dragged down out of frustration. A year ago, this place was much more positive and resourceful and uplifting. I still want to hang around here and help where I can, but it's growing increasingly less attractive as an option as the toxicity around here continues to grow.


Bro you are refering to me... why are you saying members with a plural S...best part about conversing with me is that you don't have to be politicaly correct and get straight to the facts and core of the arguments....you don't have to ask questions that you know the answer to...this is not a tv infomercial as you describe it.


I'm referring to members, yes—more than one! But don't worry, you're in that group. I would never leave you out. I know you love the attention.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby JohnnyBorg » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:08 pm

duke_cicero wrote: There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved. I admit I got dragged down out of frustration. A year ago, this place was much more positive and resourceful and uplifting. I still want to hang around here and help where I can, but it's growing increasingly less attractive as an option as the toxicity around here continues to grow.


Hey Duke thanks for dropping in, agree with you in hoping the community here can find some of the energy of a year ago. I wasn’t a member until recently but have been reading FT threads since early Summer 2024 and it definitely feels like the culture was better.

I do hope you stick around. Your malleable journal is top-notch. I think if my insurance won’t cover the procedure then I’ll absolutely be going with the MPP - and even with insurance there might still be a handful of factors that make me want to go the MPP route. I’ve mentioned them all ad nauseum at this point in my other posts and they’re pretty much in line with the same reasons you went forward with your MPP.

Given how off the rails this thread has spun out, this next question’s a bit comical :lol: but in an effort to get things back on track I’ll ask it. Are you finding wearing jeans more and more comfortable with your malleable? I remember in your update post saying that as you’ve healed, you’ve been able to get back to wearing them slowly.
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.

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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby duke_cicero » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:22 pm

JohnnyBorg wrote:
duke_cicero wrote: There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved. I admit I got dragged down out of frustration. A year ago, this place was much more positive and resourceful and uplifting. I still want to hang around here and help where I can, but it's growing increasingly less attractive as an option as the toxicity around here continues to grow.


Hey Duke thanks for dropping in, agree with you in hoping the community here can find some of the energy of a year ago. I wasn’t a member until recently but have been reading FT threads since early Summer 2024 and it definitely feels like the culture was better.

I do hope you stick around. Your malleable journal is top-notch. I think if my insurance won’t cover the procedure then I’ll absolutely be going with the MPP - and even with insurance there might still be a handful of factors that make me want to go the MPP route. I’ve mentioned them all ad nauseum at this point in my other posts and they’re pretty much in line with the same reasons you went forward with your MPP.

Given how off the rails this thread has spun out, this next question’s a bit comical :lol: but in an effort to get things back on track I’ll ask it. Are you finding wearing jeans more and more comfortable with your malleable? I remember in your update post saying that as you’ve healed, you’ve been able to get back to wearing them slowly.


I'm definitely going to stick around, despite the bastards and the "carcasses" and the fake doctors and others who lack quantitative reasoning abilities, not to mention the high-falutin' Foghorn Leghorn sons-a-guns tootin' and hootin' around these parts, lol. Pumpless or otherwise!

As far as jeans go, I'm home free these days. First few months were quite a bit sensitive around the subcoronal incision. I don't like to wear jeans around the house and opt for joggers when I'm lounging, but whenever I'm out I wear jeans, and I'm quite happy with them. I've moved to Separatec underwear and like it a lot.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby JohnnyBorg » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:28 pm

duke_cicero wrote:
JohnnyBorg wrote:
duke_cicero wrote: There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved. I admit I got dragged down out of frustration. A year ago, this place was much more positive and resourceful and uplifting. I still want to hang around here and help where I can, but it's growing increasingly less attractive as an option as the toxicity around here continues to grow.


Hey Duke thanks for dropping in, agree with you in hoping the community here can find some of the energy of a year ago. I wasn’t a member until recently but have been reading FT threads since early Summer 2024 and it definitely feels like the culture was better.

I do hope you stick around. Your malleable journal is top-notch. I think if my insurance won’t cover the procedure then I’ll absolutely be going with the MPP - and even with insurance there might still be a handful of factors that make me want to go the MPP route. I’ve mentioned them all ad nauseum at this point in my other posts and they’re pretty much in line with the same reasons you went forward with your MPP.

Given how off the rails this thread has spun out, this next question’s a bit comical :lol: but in an effort to get things back on track I’ll ask it. Are you finding wearing jeans more and more comfortable with your malleable? I remember in your update post saying that as you’ve healed, you’ve been able to get back to wearing them slowly.


I'm definitely going to stick around, despite the bastards and the "carcasses" and the fake doctors and others who lack quantitative reasoning abilities, not to mention the high-falutin' Foghorn Leghorn sons-a-guns tootin' and hootin' around these parts, lol. Pumpless or otherwise!

As far as jeans go, I'm home free these days. First few months were quite a bit sensitive around the subcoronal incision. I don't like to wear jeans around the house and opt for joggers when I'm lounging, but whenever I'm out I wear jeans, and I'm quite happy with them. I've moved to Separatec underwear and like it a lot.


Awesome, that’s very encouraging. I’m a big fan of jeans and five pocket pants, and I already try to stick to straighter fits with a bit more room in the groin when possible. I imagine this helps a bit. I also think it’s very patient to patient. I feel like in mbambo’s old thread of his Rigicon malleable, he made the switch to jeans pretty quick because it actually helped a bit with stowing the Rigi10. All interesting stuff.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby dj_soros » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:58 pm

duke_cicero wrote:Hey folks. I realize this may not really diffuse the situation, but I made a mistake and falsely accused dj_soros of being a troll. I happen to know from my communications from him on another website that he is who he says he is...

There's so much negativity on this website now, and the culture here needs to be improved.



Thanks for clearing my name, Duke.

This is unfortunately the price of an anonymous public forum. We should also limit the paranoia. Better to let a guilty person go free than to risk punishing an innocent one. Why risk alienating a genuine member of the small group of men (~3%) who have or are considering an implant, just because of an opinion or experience? What real harm is done if we accidentally indulge an alt/troll?

Tooyoung, you've got people on EDGE... I don’t know if what you said was unintentional or not, but I’m still impressed by the elaborate conspiracy theories that spun out of it. Call it reverse trolling. It’s caused me a lot of trouble, and it could do the same for new users. I’d hate to see mass hysteria chip away at this community from within.

I would still like an explanation on Neisseriaceae's penis pictures. Are they fake? I'm debating to include pictures if they don't mean anything...

Anyway, JohnnyBorg, I apologize for how things turned out, I probably should of got Duke involved much sooner. At least someone will have a fun time reading through this thread in the future.

I still think you got insightful answers from both sides in the beginning. Whichever option you choose, it's still better than ED. The sky is the limit and the bar is in hell.
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby ready2go » Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:02 pm

[quote="JohnnyBorg"]Hey everyone!

hey johnny . i have read that some members with ipp's have lost size , but i wonder if that is due to extended length of ED with no erections ? the several nocturnal erections is the bodies method to keep our penis in good health and maintain size .
if a guy goes for months or years without them ,they lose size .
with my malleable , i don't think i lost much length but girth loss is to be expected with a malleable . i still had erections with pills and suppliments before my mpp implant
regarding the comfort of jeans with a malleable or other clothes . For me the first 4 to 6 weeks ,was when my glans were very sensitive , after a few months that's gone .
That was the only issue i had healing wise . it was basically painless. Maybe due to the infrapubic method . members who has subcoronal method reported a longer heal time .
i think due the rods not being bent during the implant . they are in virgin condition .
Anyway ,an ipp is appealing due to its ability to possibly regain lost size or maintain it . And if you go that route ,hopefully yours will last years . Even 6 years isn't bad , if you are in your 40s , more than that would be optimal .
Good luck with what ever type you chose .
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby thedriver » Wed Sep 24, 2025 6:15 am

Coming up on 20 months and still standing tall, cumming hard, and making her scream like a banshee everyday. :D
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood

Postby dj_soros » Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:54 am

tooyoung wrote:
dj_soros wrote: Tooyoung, you've got people on EDGE

I don't care...I don't change my arguments for fake political correctness and social conformity...red pills is what I do.

“I went to one who had the reputation of wisdom... and when I began to talk with him, I could not help thinking that he was not really wise... I tried to explain to him that he thought himself wise, but was not really wise... and the consequence was that he hated me, and his enmity was shared by several who were present and heard me.”
(Plato, Apology, 21c–d, trans. Jowett)

dj_soros wrote:I don’t know if what you said was unintentional or not


Everything was intentional...I'm straight forward...what's on my mind I say it.

"My art of midwifery is in general like theirs [the midwives']; the only difference is that my patients are men, not women, and my concern is not with the body but with the soul that is in travail of birth. And the highest point of my art is the power to prove by every test whether the offspring of a young man's thought is a false phantom or instinct with life and truth."
(Plato, Theaetetus, 150b–d, trans. Jowett)

dj_soros wrote:but I’m still impressed by the elaborate conspiracy theories that spun out of it. Call it reverse trolling. It’s caused me a lot of trouble, and it could do the same for new users. I’d hate to see mass hysteria chip away at this community from within.

now I'm the one to blame for your accusation?
What conspiracy theories do you think I made ? You already felt what it tastes like to be falsely accused.

Anyway again I don't care...I will keep pushing what I believe and others keep pushing for social conformity or whatever makes them sleep at night.

dj_soros wrote: I would still like an explanation on Neisseriaceae's penis pictures. Are they fake? I'm debating to include pictures if they don't mean anything...


you once defended him fiercely but now you have a group of friends :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Are you really asking whether they are fake? Or still condemning letoman for throwing empty accusations?

It's very nice that once you have become in the team you didn't mention letoman once....crazy.

Social conformity is a nasty disease :lol:

Letoman you are a godamn good lawyer :lol: :lol:



Dude. You misunderstood me. I didn't say you were the one who made the conspiracies... Let me be less subtle.

It seems your line "felt like you were pulling words straight out of my mind" set imaginations running wild. I labeled it as reverse trolling because I don't know if what you said was bait or not, but it was a chef's kiss of mind games, if so. I still chuckle when re-reading it.

Bro believes you created d_soros as a cover account all the way back in 2023, made extra inactive cover accounts over time, lain in wait for over a year before launching your "trolling campaign" in 2025, and dug up an old inactive FrankTalk account to impersonate. Plus, you supposedly collect fake or real MPP penis pictures as extra cover. My question about that remains unanswered.

I found it so ironic that Leto became a troll-detection expert yet ended up unintentionally becoming a master troll strategist, inventing an elaborate plan from thin air that I (and likely you) wouldn't have dreamed of.

You're right. It was unfair to pin other people's paranoia on you, so I apologize for that. I still appreciate you backing me up as well.
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