Hi everybody.
I haven't posted in awhile because things were going fine following my implant in March. That is, until last week. As my wife and I were enjoying ourselves after 3 years of non-activity, without warning I emitted urine all over the place, including all over her. She was kind (not surprising), but I was horrified. A couple nights later, as things were getting hot and heavy, the same thing happened.
Is this likely a Kegel issue, is it common, or could something else be going on?
Thanks for your input. Folks on the forum have been most helpful in my journey.
TheProfessor
Ummm...A Problem
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Ummm...A Problem
The Professor
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Re: Ummm...A Problem
I sympathize. You are blessed to have a wife who understands when things are out of your control.
Some questions:
Were you able to stop the flow by any means? (Squeezing your muscles or pressing with your hands/fingers beneath or above your penis or scrotum or anywhere?)
Does this only occur when having sex, aroused, when masturbating, under non-sexual circumstances?
Do you think your posture (horizontal, prone, supine standing) could have anything do to with this?
Were any drugs in your system (prescription, alcohol etc.)?
Were you tired, sleepy, exhausted? Any unusual physical activities beforehand (exercise, etc)?
When was the most recent time you voided your bladder before this happened?
Does your bladder void completely when you do go to the bathroom?
Could the degree of fullness of your colon have an effect (stool may press on your bladder)? That is, how soon after the "events" did you move your bowels and how full were they?
Some questions:
Were you able to stop the flow by any means? (Squeezing your muscles or pressing with your hands/fingers beneath or above your penis or scrotum or anywhere?)
Does this only occur when having sex, aroused, when masturbating, under non-sexual circumstances?
Do you think your posture (horizontal, prone, supine standing) could have anything do to with this?
Were any drugs in your system (prescription, alcohol etc.)?
Were you tired, sleepy, exhausted? Any unusual physical activities beforehand (exercise, etc)?
When was the most recent time you voided your bladder before this happened?
Does your bladder void completely when you do go to the bathroom?
Could the degree of fullness of your colon have an effect (stool may press on your bladder)? That is, how soon after the "events" did you move your bowels and how full were they?
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
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AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter
Re: Ummm...A Problem
In my very non-professional opinion:
If this is a new problem I'd see your Uro right away. This is a doctor question given your history and possibly unrelated to your implant, you never know. But I wouldn't panic. It likely something minor but to delay seeking professional advice would be foolish.
If this is a new problem I'd see your Uro right away. This is a doctor question given your history and possibly unrelated to your implant, you never know. But I wouldn't panic. It likely something minor but to delay seeking professional advice would be foolish.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: Ummm...A Problem
It is called climacturia a common thing with guys that have had an RP. Probably just a big squirt. Happens to me at times when I am really hot and Horney during sex. Try to get all urine out before sex. It is a bitch isn't it. Some guys even use a hospital bed pad when having sex. I want to keep it spontaneous as possible though. Don't think/worry about it and just enjoy the humping.
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82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20
Re: Ummm...A Problem
bldoink wrote:In my very non-professional opinion:
If this is a new problem I'd see your Uro right away. This is a doctor question given your history and possibly unrelated to your implant, you never know. But I wouldn't panic. It likely something minor but to delay seeking professional advice would be foolish.
Agreed 100%
Larry
Re: Ummm...A Problem
Google CLIMACTURIA. You will get a full description and treatments. Basically it is orgasim related urination.
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Re: Ummm...A Problem
I emailed my doc. In her reply she encouraged me to urinate both before and after inflation, as the angle of the urethra might change. She said it could be climacturia. We’ll discuss at my next appointment.
Thanks for the counsel and input!
TheProfessor
Thanks for the counsel and input!
TheProfessor
The Professor
RP July 2016
Gleason 3+4=7
Peyronies
AMS Implant March 2019
University Professor of History
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Re: Ummm...A Problem
Yup, good advice all around. Did you ever watch a porn video of or have sex with a squirter? Same thing for a woman. Intense muscle contractions force the urine past the sphincter.
I have have both surgery (LRP) and 35 radiation treatments after a return of my cancer. I have learned to always empty my bladder before sex. When I am well rested and on my back I have no issues. If I am tired and standing or face down I will be a squirter. A few drinks will cause the same thing. Fortunately the women in my life have no issue with it. I usually have a towel underneath us during sex just in case.
I have had several instances where my partner thought it was all her because she was so turned on and wet.
Enjoy what you have
I have have both surgery (LRP) and 35 radiation treatments after a return of my cancer. I have learned to always empty my bladder before sex. When I am well rested and on my back I have no issues. If I am tired and standing or face down I will be a squirter. A few drinks will cause the same thing. Fortunately the women in my life have no issue with it. I usually have a towel underneath us during sex just in case.
I have had several instances where my partner thought it was all her because she was so turned on and wet.
Enjoy what you have
Age 75 Implanted by Dr. Andrew Kramer 03/22/2017. AMS 700 LGX 18 CM with 2 Cm RTE for a total of 20 CM. Previously used injections over 1000 no scarring
Re: Ummm...A Problem
I don't have an implant but I have had a RP that left me with no erection, as in none.
I do use injections successfully and I'm pretty pleased with them. However, all sexual activity is now planned. Unfortunate but what it is. Fortunately, I'm happily married (usually) with an understanding wife. Playing the single scene would be a whole other ball game for several reasons. Some would be hard to work around, especially those related to the effects of the RP, well those other than the ED itself.
After the RP I did have serious leakage issues for a good while. I've plateaued at a point where I use no protection but do have occasional small leaks, not daily but one or more per week. Most often they are related to types of sudden exertion that cause mussel contractions that force a very small dribble. If I remember or anticipate I can consciously clamp down and prevent that issue. Also, if I'm out on my property doing hard manual work and get fatigued I'm more apt to have a small leak while exerting. Of course no one would notice anyhow as my clothes are sweat soaked by then. Overall it's not a big deal and causes no social issues but it (1. is a bit of a pisser) (2. does piss me off) at times (Your choice of bad puns).
All that just to put this next thought in context. As our play time is now always planned, I avoid fluid for an hour or so beforehand. I also always shower immediately beforehand for a couple of reasons. The relevant reason for this discussion is: At the end of my shower I will use some slippery shave gel (Avon Skin So Soft) to jack off my limp noodle for a couple of minutes. While it unfortunately remains limp, I do get the arousal feelings in my pelvic area with the associated mussel contractions (No, not orgasm contractions). Sometimes I actually feel like I'm getting erect until I look. Oh well! Anyhow, this prompts me to void my bladder (sometimes involuntarily) of whatever remains that I wasn't able to void normally. This leaves me ready for play time without the added undesired (for us) water sports. This method works well for me/us.
That's my sorry ass way of working around the effects of the RP but it does work. I can't think of any reason the relevant parts wouldn't work for any RP cancer survivor, implanted or not. I suppose there are those RP cancer survivors without such issues. Lucky guys!
I know that was TMI but all that verbiage seemed necessary to provide context. I hope it is of some use to somebody.
I do use injections successfully and I'm pretty pleased with them. However, all sexual activity is now planned. Unfortunate but what it is. Fortunately, I'm happily married (usually) with an understanding wife. Playing the single scene would be a whole other ball game for several reasons. Some would be hard to work around, especially those related to the effects of the RP, well those other than the ED itself.
After the RP I did have serious leakage issues for a good while. I've plateaued at a point where I use no protection but do have occasional small leaks, not daily but one or more per week. Most often they are related to types of sudden exertion that cause mussel contractions that force a very small dribble. If I remember or anticipate I can consciously clamp down and prevent that issue. Also, if I'm out on my property doing hard manual work and get fatigued I'm more apt to have a small leak while exerting. Of course no one would notice anyhow as my clothes are sweat soaked by then. Overall it's not a big deal and causes no social issues but it (1. is a bit of a pisser) (2. does piss me off) at times (Your choice of bad puns).
All that just to put this next thought in context. As our play time is now always planned, I avoid fluid for an hour or so beforehand. I also always shower immediately beforehand for a couple of reasons. The relevant reason for this discussion is: At the end of my shower I will use some slippery shave gel (Avon Skin So Soft) to jack off my limp noodle for a couple of minutes. While it unfortunately remains limp, I do get the arousal feelings in my pelvic area with the associated mussel contractions (No, not orgasm contractions). Sometimes I actually feel like I'm getting erect until I look. Oh well! Anyhow, this prompts me to void my bladder (sometimes involuntarily) of whatever remains that I wasn't able to void normally. This leaves me ready for play time without the added undesired (for us) water sports. This method works well for me/us.
That's my sorry ass way of working around the effects of the RP but it does work. I can't think of any reason the relevant parts wouldn't work for any RP cancer survivor, implanted or not. I suppose there are those RP cancer survivors without such issues. Lucky guys!
I know that was TMI but all that verbiage seemed necessary to provide context. I hope it is of some use to somebody.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: Ummm...A Problem
Why does jacking off with shower gel cause you to urinate that small amount left after you have just peed it all out? I don't know but Bldoink's post jogged my brain. It happens the same way on me, every time. Urine just flows out.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20
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