Pumping Question

[cutcliffe]

Hello,
I am starting week seven post surgery and have been pumping for a couple of weeks. I have an AMS CX 21 cm with 1 rte. Here is the issue. I seem to pump okay. Getting to about 6.5 inches which is about 1/2 less or so than before. But when I pump its like I can pump forever. It gets apparently full and hard but the pump will not give resistance as if I were pumping a basketball or tire. Does this makes sense? Is there backflow? Should I be concerned? Thanks for all the expertise. You guys have be so helpful during this process.

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[tomas1]

Mine has always got too hard to pump when it was finished.

[Lost Sheep]

Hello,
I am starting week seven post surgery and have been pumping for a couple of weeks. I have an AMS CX 21 cm with 1 rte. Here is the issue. I seem to pump okay. Getting to about 6.5 inches which is about 1/2 less or so than before. But when I pump its like I can pump forever. It gets apparently full and hard but the pump will not give resistance as if I were pumping a basketball or tire. Does this makes sense? Is there backflow? Should I be concerned? Thanks for all the expertise. You guys have be so helpful during this process.

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A call to the Patient Liaison (PL) from AMS should yield a definitive answer. Please get back to us with what you learn.

As I understand it, there is a pressure-relief valve that, when you pump up to a certain level, will not allow any more fluid into the implant, but directs that (excess) fluid back to the reservoir. The increasing resistance you feel as you pump up starts low, increases to a max and will not go any higher than the pressure relief valve allows.

So, you should not be concerned unless you find that backpressure (the resistance of the pump bulb) decreasing or the rigidity of your penis at full inflation decreasing.

[newbie443]

I 2nd calling AMS rep. I had problems with my pump and may still have some but I do get more resistance as I near 100% inflation. I can force partial pumps forever and think that most of that is not going into the cylinders. But no way can I do full pumps like when I start or even 1/2 pumps. The AMS rep will have a lot more information and fixes than are in your AMS DVD. And they will need a information and ask questions that will determine what the problem is and fix(es). It will also establish a record of the problem for them to help improve the pump and should the pump need to be replace help with any warranty claim if needed. But most of the time they are really good with fixes. They really helped me out. Takes a while for them to get back to you. At least it did for me. If you do not have a number to contact in your packet either do a search on this site or call AMS and they will get you where you need to call. All the times I called I left a message and waited to be called back. Hopefully the wait will be short as Covid has slowed down implant surgery down and they should have you straightened out quickly. Take care and let us know how things work out.

[Bluemoon3287]

I am 7 weeks into having an AMS 700 MS implanted. I followed my doctor’s orders precisely. I left the hospital fully erect and stayed that way 24/7 for exactly one month. Since that time, it has been at least pumped to full erection and fully released once a day.

The problem: Once it “deflates”, within a few hours, the cylinders refill without me touching the pump. Are we missing something ? I know it’s the cylinders, as opposed to a natural response. Equipment malfunction ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I feel like I’ve got a damn poltergeist in my pants. I don’t seem to be able to stop it. Gives slacks an entirely new look. I hate to complain, but it can be a problem -

[Waynetho]

I am 7 weeks into having an AMS 700 MS implanted. I followed my doctor’s orders precisely. I left the hospital fully erect and stayed that way 24/7 for exactly one month. Since that time, it has been at least pumped to full erection and fully released once a day.

The problem: Once it “deflates”, within a few hours, the cylinders refill without me touching the pump. Are we missing something ? I know it’s the cylinders, as opposed to a natural response. Equipment malfunction ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I feel like I’ve got a damn poltergeist in my pants. I don’t seem to be able to stop it. Gives slacks an entirely new look. I hate to complain, but it can be a problem -

Are you following the suggestions of some Titan implantees here to pop the bulb to lock it in after deflate? If so, that may be where you're going wrong. I've never seen any auto-inflation on my AMS 700 MS pump but I follow the instruction manual exactly which means I deflate and squeeze it out but *DO NOTHING MORE*. The valve should stay in "DEFLATE" mode which SHOULD prevent auto-inflation due to the check-valve. If you are "POPPING" the bulb to lock it in like some Titan users claim they do, you're moving the check-valve so that pressure on the reservoir will push saline back into the implant (you might even hear or feel the "BUZZZ" when that pressure moves saline to the implant cylinders).

[Bluemoon3287]

Popping ? Not even sure where or how one would begin to try such a thing. I’m/she is just squeezing the bulb until the bulb feels full and can no longer compress the bulb. When we start, we squeeze and hold the bulb until you feel a “click” - then just compress until it’s difficult and my penis is fully erect. Deflating, we simply locate the deflation button, compress the button and that is when you hear a buzzing and things begin to deflate. Once we release the button, we make a couple squeezes on my penis and we have deflation success.....for about three hours and it starts refilling. It would seem that once the fluid was released back to the reservoir there would be some sort of check valve to prevent what feels like back flow. I’ve checked and rechecked the instructions we were given and there is just nothing there. Plus, she and I obviously went through two separate training sessions (a month apart) and haven’t seen the doctor since and that was about a month ago. At that time, my penis had never been deflated since the day after the surgery. The doc had us deflate, reinflate and leave it inflated for a month, never once relieving the pressure and re-inflating. So, the problem didn’t develop or we didn’t know their was a problem until a couple days later and we wrote that off to our lack of experience. I can deflate it to damn near flat and within a couple of hours, it’s 80% erect. I am truly perplexed.

[Lost Sheep]

Welcome to the forum, Bluemoon3287.

Do you feel a click when depressing the deflate button? That is the valve clicking over to the deflate mode. If you don't, press deeper. It is best to do this from the fully or near fully inflated condition. Then deflation flow can occur without having to keep the button depressed.

Then, once you are fully deflated (squeeze your penis down to what you called "damn near flat". Then, leave it. Do not squeeze the bulb to set the valve (which is what the instruction say). See what happens. I think you may not experience the auto-inflation (self inflation).

This is what works for me. Let us know if it works for you, please.

[Waynetho]

Also, if it's auto-inflating you should be able to press the deflate button again and squeeze the cylinders and it will BUZZ again. If you don't get the buzz of saline going through the check-valve when you attempt to deflate again after the "auto-inflation" has taken place, it's not really auto-inflation but rather tissues filling out again. I will go from "ROAD-KILL" FLAT after deflation to very plump and round over 30-45 minutes but it's not inflated, it's simply the tissues decompressing back to their relaxed condition. If I try to deflate from the fuller profile, the deflate button will not click and I cannot push any saline back into the reservoir. If I squeeze the bulb once, then press deflate again, I get a very short "BUZZ" when squeezing the cylinder but not more than a fraction of a second.

If you are squeezing the bulb AFTER deflation on the AMS MS pump, that may be your problem because you're opening up the check-valve again to allow saline into the cylinders.

[Bluemoon3287]

Seriously, thank you for the replies. We do exactly like you suggest. Every day. The button is depressed until we hear or feel a click and the buzzing starts. The button is released and the buzzing continues until almost completely empty, probably about 20% of fully erect. We then squeeze the remaining fluid to the reservoir. I will say that it feels like the implants, both at the base and glans of my penis never seem to deflate. I have rationalized that it’s probably supposed to be that way where connections were (base) made. Beyond that, the only thing that we might be doing wrong is releasing the deflate button once it clicks? That seems counterintuitive to me.....if you click it one way to “open”, it would seem that you had to take some sort of action to “close” the valve again. I’m about 500 miles away from my urologist and really hoping it’s me as opposed to faulty equipment.