After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

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After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby 2435tjklAS » Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:26 pm

Can anyone give a rough average? I think the first 4 to 6 weeks are mostly doing nothing but recovering from the surgery, I assume. But then, 3 months after implant? 6 months? 1 year? Years later?

This cycling and VED stuff, how much time does it take? And mostly, when is it important to start doing this stuff?
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.

Goal to prove implants increase dick size

Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"

Goal: 10+" x 6+"

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby gjmjoe017 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:29 pm

When your doctor tells you to,and that varies!I had a lot of swelling and was held back Untill week six!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby 2435tjklAS » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:04 pm

That's definitely a good answer for me now, I'm probably just being stupidly anxious.

But would you or anyone else mind briefly explaining the process of the cycling and VEDs stuff? I came into this not knowing this stuff existed. Now when I'm flooded with the idea that my size might change without some exercise stuff, it's a little scary and I'm hoping it could be roughly explained. Would be very much appreciated.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.

Goal to prove implants increase dick size

Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"

Goal: 10+" x 6+"

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby Tmansdorfer » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:48 pm

My dr told me to start doing the ved at my 5 week appointment.
39 01/24/19 USC Dr Doumanian LGX 15cm 3, lGX 18 +2, revision 6-20 18+3 pump failure, revision 8-20 left cylinder in scrotum, 1-21 removed infection switched to dr Doyle, Boyd 10.05.21 a 15+3 cx,revision 01,23,24 with switch to LGX 15+6 fat pad removal.

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby gjmjoe017 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:52 pm

I do both but I would recommend just cycling to start.That’s pumping up as much as you can and leaving it 30 min.to an hour, it Untill it’s too uncomfortable.I did that twice a day and started using my VED about 4 months out twice a day for about 15-20 minutes and Inpump my implant up first then use the VED.
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby bjb0606 » Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:48 pm

Here's some reading Dr Hakky gives out
https://assets.atlantacosmeticurology.c ... 368516.pdf
57. ED after anterior approach back surgery
PIlls, Injections
AMS 700 CX 2012-2021
Revision 1 AMS 700 LGX 6/2021
Revision 2 AMS 700 LGX 08/2021
Revision 3 Titan 12/2021 Dr Hakky
Revision 4 Titan 10/23 Dr Hakky

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby newbie443 » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:31 am

I will agree with gjmjoe17. As I have said before we are all different and doctors can vary a great deal in skill and experience. No need to find out what others have done or what other doctors do. Right now you have had the surgery done by your doctor and should follow that doctors advice unless you have reason to change doctors. Cycling will vary from doctor to doctor but many follow something that is like what is in your AMS 700 DVD. This is where when you start with a full inflation and then immediately deflate. Then increase over time the number of times a day and the length of time inflated. What matters here is not someone else but you and your doctor and what that doctor saw when you were opened up on the OR table.

So follow your doctors instructions for you. Not someone else's doctor's for them. What you can do is read and educate yourself and ask questions. Ask your doctor about cycling protocol and VED use. And follow those instructions. After you are fully healed (3-6 months) and released from your doctors care you can then decide if you want to do things like long stretching pump adding inflations or VED therapy if your doctors instructs you not to. There may be reasons only your doctor knows and not following your doctors instructions is taking a risk.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby 2435tjklAS » Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:48 am

Thanks so much you all. Only one question left: I'm familiar with the fact that years in the future it's best for the device if you inflate it about once a week (I assume masturbation achieves this for most people).

However, the VED stuff and the stretching - do you hit a point when you don't ever have to do that anymore? If so, can you roughly estimate how long until you're done? 1 year, or more?

I'm wondering if this thing requires maintenance like that to retain length, which would annoy me, so I just wanna hear what it's like.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.

Goal to prove implants increase dick size

Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"

Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"

Goal: 10+" x 6+"

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby gjmjoe017 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:01 am

In my opinion you will need to always stretch and exercise your dick to keep good blood flow going and tissues expanded.I don’t plan on stopping as Lind as I’m sexually active!
71 yrs.old married,ED for 7 yrs.Pills for 3 yrs,TriMix for 21/2 yrs.6 1/2 inches flacid,71/4 inches erect,6 inches girth.Coloplast Titan put in 11/13/20,Dr.Bozeman,Arkansas Urology,Little Rock.22cm + 2 RTE.

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Re: After the implant has been done, at what point do is best for most people to start cycling, using VEDs, etc.

Postby newbie443 » Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:34 pm

If you do some reading in this forum and in the general section in thread of documents worth reading or even a general web search you will find a lot of information on penis health. In short males have nocturnal erections even before they are born and as babies up until we die that are part of penis health. ED and other things cause these to diminish or stop. And this effects penis health and causes size loss. You will find documents about VED therapy for men after prostate surgery when all erections stop but I think this should include men with ED. A few men who are proactive with ED treatment and have the care of very good doctors even have size increase over what they had up to implant. This is due to never having a properly working penis. But most of us will have size loss from ED. VED does what natural erections do. It pulls blood into the tissue and stretch's the tunica and other tissue. VED use can also cause damage and you should also read and follow proper VED use. But you are a long way off on that and need to ask your doctor about this and follow his advice until you are released and fully healed. Some doctors use this but the study I have read that was done was with health men with not problems and a simple implant surgery with very early activation. All of these things and more are part of what some of us use to search for a doctor for this. Infection rate, aggressive sizing, activation time, experience level, surgery techniques, etc. So many of us have this info going in. Cycling does stretch the tissue and it alone will restore some of the size loss. But to avoid infection and for the best outcome you need to follow your doctors' instructions for this. Then if your doctor does not want you to use a VED post op or long pump adding aggressive inflations you can decide to or not to do this after you are released.

You can ask your doctor about how often you should inflate for maintenance over the years, but you might do some reading and be informed about the need to stretch the tissue and when asking about VED use, the pulling of blood into your penis. Nocturnal erections in men occur 3-5 times a day most days. That is going to be difficult for men to do with an implant for the rest of our lives. But I would think to inflate as often as you can twice a day. This is even a lot to do and some say once a day or every other day. Or even once a week. And some men just inflate for sex however many times that occurs. So this is also something for you to research and decide what you will do.

Most men get a larger device when they have revisions years from the previous one. But this is due to size loss caused by ED and not an enlargement just getting you back closer to your natural size.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.


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