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Hi,

I’m wondering if somebody know about CHEMPE? That consist to inject alprostadil (carvejet) or bimix-trimix-quadmix almost every days to get an erection for at least 2-3 hours , to get a bigger dick. I saw a lot of result and it was terrific, like they pass from 6 inches to 9 inches. I remember it was very painful sometimes…but with very good result. Most of them gain 1 to 2 inches length of growth and same for the girth. I try myself in 2013 for 8 months straight and I gain 1,5 inch. That I never lost. It’s pushing your tunica albunigea to is max capacity and remodeling it. And using DMSO with verapamil or paba as a lotion to avoid peyronie formation. Is a PATENT from Dr. Adams

What about if I start again before penile implant as they suggest to do VED and even device extender or hanging to get bigger size of cylinders of ipp? I have my surgery in 1 month and I want to put all the advantages on my side ?

Here the patent:

“ The following experimental examples are illustrative of the use of this invention.
Example 1 A male patient, age 41, was treated with intracavernosal injections of a vasodilator, prostaglandin El, on a regular basis (approximately four to five times per week) over an 18 month treatment period. A sufficient quantity was administered to maintain a prolonged engorgement of an erectile response between 40-75% over a period of several hours, generally 3 to 6 hours. The quantity of medication was adjusted from time to time in accordance with the patient's response, which was monitored at least weekly.
The size of the patient's fully erect penis increased from 5.8 inches to 8.6 inches in length (about an 48% increase) and 3.7 inches to 5.8 inches in girth (about an 56% increase) over the 18-month treatment period. Following the discontinuation of this treatment, the erect penis length remained stable for two years at over 8 1/2 inches. Treatment was re- institued combining intracavemosal injections 3-4 times per week of a mixture of testosterone (0.5 mg) and vasodilators with low dose oral Potaba (500-1000 mg) 3-4 times per day. After a short treatment period of 2 1/2 months, the patient's erect penis was over 9 inches in length, which means he has gained an additional 0.4-0. 5 inches in length (about an 6% increase). The total increase in length was therefore about 3.2 inches (about an 55% increase) in length“

I have. Have you checked out Ronelle's blog. http://chemicalpenisenlargement.blogspot.com/

However, i did it because i have ED and Peyronie's. ChemPE will only increase your girth. You *MUST* do traction every day for length gains. Together i have a built a pretty formidable dick. Even after Peyronie's.

Also implants typically have a max girth of about 6 inch circumference. So if you do too much ChemPE getting an implant will most likely lose some of those gains.

For post implant girth i'd do HA or some similar type of filler.

This "CHEMPE" idea is a really bad idea!!!

What's going on is that it the chemically induced prolong erection creates scar tissue growth which will make the surgeons job much more difficult!

If you read among the experiences in the forum, a good surgeon makes a difference,
and how do they make a difference? They don't crack under pressure on the operating table when they encounter scar tissue - scar tissue can turn a half an hour surgical procedure into a half a day surgical procedure, at which point a surgeon has to finish up or risk infection.

So, the advice is, don't create unnecessary scar tissue, it will give you a worse outcome.

2-3 hours is not nearly enough to cause scar tissue, specially not with pure PGE-1.
Trimix ingredients are acidic and can cause scarring in the corpora, but that is not the case with PGE-1.
To offset tunica scaring from pure PGE-1 usage of light/long traction is recommended.

LuisFernandez wrote:2-3 hours is not nearly enough to cause scar tissue, specially not with pure PGE-1.
Trimix ingredients are acidic and can cause scarring in the corpora, but that is not the case with PGE-1.
To offset tunica scaring from pure PGE-1 usage of light/long traction is recommended.

Didn't the study show that PGE-1 caused less scaring, but it still caused scaring.

The thing is, this "CHEMPE" procedure is at best going to do nothing, or it will cause scarring. I can't see how it can't.

Scarring is a side effect of injection therapy, and it's something that has to be accepted. But I don't see any good reason to unnecessarily cause scarring by doing something like this procedure.

Yeah, they both cause scarring but PGE-1 is just safer and has less of a chance to cause scarring.

In order to counter scarring i personally recommend to do daily VED and traction. This is similar to dealing with Peyronie's.

Ronelle, the pioneer of CHEMPE would do jelquing to break up scar tissue. This is NOT what i personally do or recommend.

If you can get erection with penile injection, why then you need implant?
Your reasoning doesn’t click with my view.
MK

MK1965 wrote:If you can get erection with penile injection, why then you need implant?
Your reasoning doesn’t click with my view.
MK

Yeah, particularly if you are getting a reasonable response, why would you do what is possibly equivalent to 5-10 years of injection therapy in 18 months, when you could have 5-10 years of use of injection therapy.

I do not GET really good erection, I need like 300mcg of pge-1, I built resistance I guess when I did the protocol cuz I was at 300mcg+. I was saying it because of my experience it’s work very good. And I need a ipp next month. I did a doppler with carvejet injection with my surgeon and I have venous leakage and no peyronie at all not even fibrosis (maybe du to the lotion with DMSO and verapamil). After the protocol I gain like 3/4 inch in one month. Mk1965 , I did 300mcg+ This morning and don’t really even get an erection of 30min(so is not working well at all for sex. Cuz it’s too painful but is the only dosage that works. I’m losing it fast. I try to maintain it with cockring as much as I can. Yes luisfernandez I did stretch a lot. And I’m doing it now with ved do get better advantage on the surgery. I was just asking you guys what you thing about this because I got good experience as you luisfernandez and zero fibrosis. And girth is not a problem as we can add HA or any filling. If you guys things it’s really bad idea.. they I will stop … I got scared now to get fibrosis and your example frwmw1 is very scary also

Yeah the main downside of the protocol is that you quickly build up resistance. As Ronelle puts it he believes that more PGE-1 receptors are created in the penis requiring higher dosages.

My protocol wasn't as pure. I inject 3-4 times a week because that's how often i have sex. I also do about 3 hours of traction, although these days is 1 hour or less tbh. I do however use my VED just about every day.

In my case my dosages is up to 60mcg/100ml but i inject half to like 30mcg.

I did DMSO for a while but stopped, although i should probably keep doing it just takes time.

I believe that it's better just to do traction + VED and save the injections for when you have sex to avoid building resistance. For getting an implant i think a good traction protocol is key.